Japan Earthquake | Page 2765

  • confusing = confusion (I'm a bit confused today due to lack of coffee)
    by Pedro Jesus 12/12/2011 1:23:40 PM

  • Incoming bunch of worker tweets. translating them
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 1:23:50 PM

  • tweets from Happy
    Oiler contaminated water was processed low concentrations of radioactive materials dumped in the ocean maybe I think I will definitely be implemented. It is done I'm currently running in the primary. However, the main nuclide I is current ocean disposal of cobalt and manganese. The main radionuclide contamination of this water treatment after cesium and strontium.

    One more: Normally when you're getting a pin hole perforated fuel failure and fuel assemblies, I can appear very small amounts. This column is too different. Important points are either cesium and strontium does things right I'm going to create processing system for ocean dumping.

    Two more: It may be hard not to convince the nation and the world to measure and publish trusted third party. I still would not convince people that a lot, become inexhaustible reservoir mount'll leave now.

    Three more: it is practically impossible, even anti-corrosion gotta disappear if a large tank over the years and. I now have an internal tank'll leave this for years and not something from epoxy resin coating .... Processing system issues'm strontium. 見届Kenakya topic in firmly.

    4 Continued: I think the government or TEPCO of trial and error I get and how ocean dumping permit. Or too protracted debate, however, additional tanks may also keep up with the open-ended ocean disposal treatment systems .... That topic in the most scary thing.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 1:25:58 PM

  • Sunny's tweets were not about the plant.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 1:42:02 PM

  • Reading the story on Jaczko gives some insight into what the commercial nukes industry really wants. Yucca mtn really seems to be a core issue. Fuel would be safer in one underground repository than stockpiled in the parking lots of nuke plants. There has even been a suggestion of allowing private companies to operate fuel storage facilities.

    Without anywhere to store fuel the entire commercial nuke industry model collapses. If people realize what a problem it is and that they will be stuck with a fuel storage nightmare in their back yard new nukes won't be tolerated. This was a huge flaw in the initial concept of commercial power, not having a plan for the fuel that is running up against a wall. They are out of space and have nowhere to take it.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 2:14:53 PM

  • this is soil in Iwaki desmond.yfrog.com
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 2:46:37 PM

  • Electrical fire at tsruga unit 1, minor low level radiation leak mainichi.jp
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 2:50:36 PM

  • Japanese company claims car runs on 1 liter of water per hour of operation with self generated hydrogen

    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:02:52 PM

  • Ostrich on the tomioka web cam. This road is crazy busy when the shifts at Daiichi change over. I don't want to know what an ostrich would do to a tiny Japanese commuter car.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:15:35 PM

  • by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:15:37 PM

  • Fire at Tsuruga Nuclear Power Plant Monday Evening.Dec 12.2011 www3.nhk.or.jp
    by MaryW 12/12/2011 3:19:22 PM

  • Worker dies at decontamination experiment in Fukushima. Radioactive iodine found in Gunma at 3 sewage plants--"Possibility of Recriticality Again". enenews.com
    by MaryW 12/12/2011 3:33:44 PM

  • Good morning, here is a nice text book for us. Ionizing radiation and life by Victor Arena (Mosby, St Louis, 1971). Although this seems an old book, reading the Epilogue, the book is more then pertinent today. The Epilogue concludes with: "We also hope that radiobiologic knowledge will be a strong deterrent for man against unwise use of nuclear energy and against the temptation of deploying nuclear weapons for the "solution" of international conflicts. With the experience of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we like to believe than man will have enough wisdom in the future to avoid the destruction of his own species in a nuclear holocaust." I bet woman possessed that wisdom then already. There is lots of good information in this book. According to page 246, 1 mSv/y seems on the low side compared with the doses estimated for the 1960s US. The author writes: "Measurements of this component (natural external sources, ed.) of the chronic exposure dose made in several cities of the U.S.A. show that mean annual doses vary greatly from a minimum of 73 mrads (New Haven, Connecticut) to a maximum of 197 mrads (Colorado Springs, Colorado)." That corresponds to about 1.35 mSv/y on average. Plus roughly 0.8 mSv/y from internal exposure from natural sources. Again this may vary a lot with location.
    by Peter edited by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:37:59 PM


  • My latest video, it covers low-dose radiation risks and the 20 mSv/y "safety limit."

    by Ian 12/12/2011 3:49:45 PM

  • @Peter Do you have a hard copy of it?
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:50:47 PM

  • @Ian thanks, grabbed it to watch later. Can I post it to the site tomorrow with a link to yours?
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 3:51:37 PM

  • @Ian Impressive. I posted it on "nuke roadie" FB page, for radiation protection techs. Heh, we've been having a running (civil) debate on Fuku. ;-)
    by M.I.A. 12/12/2011 4:19:47 PM

  • @lillymunster , yup. I saw the book is sold used on amazon.
    by Peter 12/12/2011 4:21:18 PM

  • Announcements of future NRC briefings/meetings RE: Fuku www.nrc.gov
    by M.I.A. 12/12/2011 4:21:44 PM

  • @Peter I was hoping the book was old enough that Google Books might have it scanned in, no such luck. Paper hard copy seems to be the only way to get it. Barnes & Noble and Amazon both have it for about 8-10 USD
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 4:27:25 PM

  • @M.I.A. Looking at the dates on those decision meetings explains why suddenly there are political tantrums around the NRC. The votes on the Fuku changes are this week
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 4:29:43 PM

  • @lillymunster, yes! Thanks! :)
    Hope this can get seen in Japan where it's most relevant.
    by Ian 12/12/2011 4:50:53 PM

  • @M.I.A., thanks! The research I cover flies directly in the face of pro-radiation doctrine.
    by Ian 12/12/2011 4:54:08 PM

  • @Ian we can try tweeting it to some of the bi-lingual people in Japan that follow us. It looks like you put a CC transcript in it so people can generate subtitles in JP - that is good!
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 4:55:52 PM

  • @Peter, thanks for the pointers on the average annual dose for the 15-country study!
    by Ian 12/12/2011 4:55:58 PM

  • @lillymunster, thanks! I didn't even know about adding the cc button, but I see it's there. Anytime I've tired to use it to translate Japanese vids to English, it never works. But hopefully it does in reverse.
    by Ian 12/12/2011 4:58:21 PM

  • @Ian I have gotten the CC button to work as long as there is a transcript showing up. Maybe with English it can auto trans since Google uses EN as the main language.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:02:26 PM

  • A LETTER FROM THE WORLD. On March 11.2012, the First Anniversary of The Fukushima Nuclear Disaster, the Japanese Embassies (NY,SF,DC, and London, Shiga, Wakayama, Osaka) will be presented with the second round of petition signatures. *The closing date for the second round will be March 5th.* _____The first round--6,202 signatures--was submitted to the above mentioned Japanese Embassies on Nov 2nd. Please add your name and share with others as you see fit._____________ URGENT! Stop the Spreading/Burning of Fukushima Daiichi's Radioactive Rubble---We Must Protect Children And Future Generations Worldwide. www.oneworldnonukes.org
    by MaryW 12/12/2011 5:06:47 PM

  • Already discussed here? - Reactor 4 is falling apart

    fukushima-diary.com 12.12.2011
    enenews.com
    by VesaVA 12/12/2011 5:23:14 PM

  • @VesaVA had not seen it yet
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:23:36 PM

  • @lillymunster Don't think I believe the video about the water powered car, they mention a company called Genepax and it uses Hydrogen Dioxide (oxygenated water. hydrogen peroxide). Wiki has an article on water fueled cars en.wikipedia.org The wiki article mentions the following in general as the main reason this could not work. "Releasing chemical energy from water, in excess or in equal proportion to the energy required to facilitate such production, would therefore violate the first and/or second laws of thermodynamics". Wiki also has a section about Genepax.
    by RonD 12/12/2011 5:27:10 PM

  • @VesaVA It looks like bunches of the upper rubble and broken end wall have been removed. TEPCO said they were going to clean off 3 and 4 but made no announcement of actually doing the work. I know at unit 3 it was put off because the radiation there is still so high.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:27:56 PM

  • @RonD Someone mentioned their logic might not work. That it couldn't self generate enough hydrogen in the car unit?
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:28:21 PM

  • They have ripped off all of the collapsed facade and it is cut off clean so it did not fall off at Fukushima Diary is claiming. I am still surprised they did this so quick. I will try to grab some video stills and make some comparison photos here in a bit.
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:32:45 PM

  • @lillymunster The main argument that this can't work is it takes energy to convert water to hydrogen and you get energy when you combine hydrogen with oxygen to get water. The laws of thermodynamics say this can't create net/extra energy (no perpetual motion). The wiki article speculates that maybe this is "This has led to speculation that the metal hydride is consumed in the process and is the ultimate source of the car's energy, making the car a hydride-fuelled "hydrogen on demand" vehicle, rather than water-fuelled as claimed."
    by RonD 12/12/2011 5:36:36 PM

  • @RonD yes - the metal is the source of energy. IIRC it has some sort of metal element like other water/energy sources?
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:37:57 PM

  • @lillymunster I don't think the Genepax people ever explained how the system really "worked". based on wiki/web info I can guess that some metal/hydride is used/consumed to produce hydrogen/energy and this is what really powered the car, a type of battery.
    by RonD 12/12/2011 5:44:41 PM

  • by Edano via Enenews 12/12/2011 5:52:46 PM

  • by Edano via Enenews 12/12/2011 5:52:57 PM

  • They covered the SFP about a month ago with floating panels. That would have been needed before they did this so things didn't fall into the pool. They still would have had the risk of something heavy falling into the pool but maybe the refueling crane helped give some protection?
    by lillymunster 12/12/2011 5:54:59 PM

  • frightening to see the spent fuel pool so exposed...
    by Edano 12/12/2011 5:57:02 PM

  • fukushima-diary.com this is high res 3841x5120 Pixel

    by Edano via Fukushima-diary 12/12/2011 5:57:57 PM

  • "nuke light" :)
    by Edano 12/12/2011 6:04:54 PM

  • Fire breaks out at facility of Tsuruga nuke plant

    A fire broke out at the site of the Tsuruga nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture on Monday evening. Workers at the plant have brought it under control.

    The Plant operator, Japan Atomic Power Company, says the fire began at 7:50 PM in a makeshift electric device installed at a facility to process radioactive waste. No injuries have been reported.

    It also says no radioactive materials have been leaked to surrounding areas.

    The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says the fire was ignited when workers turned a switch on a makeshift power board.

    Monday, December 12, 2011 22:12 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 12/12/2011 6:09:33 PM

  • All preconditions to declare cold shutdown met

    Japan's nuclear watchdog has approved measures that will be implemented over the next 3 years to ensure stability at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company's mid-term safety procedures include ways to further cool the damaged reactors, and to prevent possible hydrogen explosions at the plant. TEPCO plans to implement the steps over the next 3 years to achieve the second phase of the time table to put the plant under control.

    At a meeting of the Nuclear Safety Commission on Monday, some participants pointed out that the reactors have yet to reach a stable state, and that possibilities of fresh problems remain.

    Others called on the utility to monitor the durability of the equipment and facilities it is using to manage the disaster. But the members ultimately approved the safety measures planned by TEPCO.

    After the decision, commission chief Haruki Madarame said the utility should implement the measures as soon as possible, as it is difficult to accurately predict what may yet happen in the damaged reactors.

    The Japanese government is expected to declare later this week that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the plant's reactors. The government hopes the declaration will lead to a review of current evacuation areas.

    Monday, December 12, 2011 18:39 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 12/12/2011 6:11:37 PM

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