Japan Earthquake

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Now auto-immune disorders are due to being "hysterical female". ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 3:44:35 PM

This is interesting - you can track the Phobus -Grunt descent here: www.n2yo.com
by UKVal 1/14/2012 4:24:19 PM

@lillymunster RE: Osaka Bay. All those gallons of radioactive water have to go somewhere. I wonder if the currents eventually bring everything to shores and nooks and crannies, just like radiation gets concentrated in ditches.
by Cryptococcus 1/14/2012 4:41:28 PM

Fukushima & US Deaths. First hour guest, Dr. John Apsley reported on increased deaths in North America that he believes are associated with the Fukushima catastrophe, and the leaking of radiation. There was a spike in infant mortality rates within the first 10 weeks of the catastrophe in cities across the US, and the radiation contamination likely came through rainfall, he said, adding that infants were particularly susceptible because of their reduced thyroid function. For more, see this page from Apsley.
by MaryW 1/14/2012 4:57:19 PM

This goes with my last post
by MaryW 1/14/2012 4:58:21 PM

smoothies are the way to go:)
by MaryW 1/14/2012 4:59:01 PM

Nuclear Holocaust
by **~"EYE/on" Fukushima~** List of videos www.youtube.com
by MaryW 1/14/2012 5:01:39 PM

Towns vie to be the final resting spot for Canada’s nuclear garbage
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Jan. 13, 2012 7:34PM EST
Last updated Friday, Jan. 13, 2012 8:13PM EST www.theglobeandmail.com
by MaryW 1/14/2012 5:07:12 PM

Radioactive iodine in rainwater: Public was in the dark

JANUARY 13, 2012 After the Fukushima nuclear accident, Canadian health officials assured a nervous public that virtually no radioactive fallout had drifted to Canada.

But last March, a Health Canada monitoring station in Calgary detected an average of 8.18 becquerels per litre of radioactive iodine (an isotope released by the nuclear accident) in rainwater, the data shows.

The level easily exceeded the Canadian guideline of six becquerels of iodine per litre for drinking water, acknowledged Eric Pellerin, chief of Health Canada’s radiation-surveillance division.

“It’s above the recommended level (for drinking water),” he said in an interview. “At any time you sample it, it should not exceed the guideline.”

Canadian authorities didn’t disclose the high radiation reading at the time.
www.montrealgazette.com
by MaryW 1/14/2012 5:10:13 PM

The debate in Canada: What is a ‘safe’ level of radiation?
January 13.2012 In fact, Canada’s ceiling for radiation in food is set at a level that would lead to 5,000 to 8,000 cancers per million people over a 70-year lifetime of exposure, according to Health Canada’s models and those of a 2006 U.S. National Academy of Sciences report on cancer risk from radiation. (About half of the cancers would be fatal.)

That works out to 170,000 to 270,000 lifetime cancers if all 34 million Canadians were exposed at the “safe” level.

“I don’t think we should be using the word ‘safe.’ We should say it’s a ‘permissible’ level of radiation,” Edwards said.

www.montrealgazette.com
by MaryW 1/14/2012 5:13:18 PM

@lillymunster ".....This is the west side of Honshu why is it so contaminated?" After all I reed on this , I think that what is coming up is not only radiation contamination from the Fukushima accident. I think the all Japan have be contaminate by years of small accidents . Just no body new , measure or stud it. Is all so sad .
by Majj 1/14/2012 5:26:27 PM

@Majj, Precisely. Bombing, testing, dumping, permissible levels of releases....The bigger question remains unanswered. Can we overcome our ignorance and save ourselves by taking Action?
by eyes 1/14/2012 5:37:43 PM

@Majj Has Osaka been dumping radioactive ash? I don't remember if they accepted rubble to burn or not? Tokyo and Yokohama did and dumped the ash in their bays.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 5:39:23 PM

We know there were some early on incidents of dumping radioactive junk into the ocean by Japan. IIRC we found something about a pipe out to the ocean at Tokai from the very early years that was later closed. So they were dumping some radioactivity into the sea long ago. Then there is all the sea based bomb tests and whatever else various countries decided to dump into the sea. IIRC didn't Russia dump nuclear waste in Japan's water territory a few years ago setting off an international incident?
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 5:43:13 PM

@lillymunster Every one was dumping ever thing every were. I they test the Somalian waters we wod see terrible levels of quimicals and radionuclide. Was the near place for Europeans countrys do dump danger material. Until 5 years ago the Italian mafia wood dump there everything from European hospitals. millions of radiative X ray parts. The Baltic Sea floor is cover by Soviet radioactive materials . Imagine the waters between Japan and China :-(((
by Majj 1/14/2012 5:53:32 PM

@Majj Fukushima had the side effect of showing how much old radium was buried around Tokyo because people started checking. It sounds like the oceans are the same way. Now that we pay attention we are realizing the amounts we have all dumped into the oceans.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 6:00:03 PM

Nuclear tests done over the years. Lots in the sea.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 6:00:42 PM

greetings to all
by dean 1/14/2012 6:01:51 PM

hi dean!
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 6:15:31 PM

@lilly, earlier I posted the article about a potential hydrogen explosion on 1-9-12 .... were there other reports of this?
by dean 1/14/2012 6:21:35 PM

@dean i have been looking but nothing else? What data might help see this? Plant radiation levels? SFP levels? The issue with 4 is we have limited data because there are no reactor sensors online in that unit due to the outage.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 6:30:27 PM

future of Fukushima fairewinds.com
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 6:54:26 PM

how could hydrogen build up in #4 ? there is only the sfp, and it is completely open air. it doesn't make much sense imo.
by Edano 1/14/2012 7:11:10 PM

High end planned community geared at Japanese ex-pats. Complete with Japanese doctors and typical high end planned community amenties. It is being decried on Twitter as being an escape for the rich from the damage done in Japan. www.yomiuri.co.jp
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 7:18:19 PM

@Edano The duct system is toast. I am trying to think what tanks or other enclosed areas are even left? Could some sort of leak from somewhere caught fire? Like a vent pipe? But it would have to have a continuous source.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 7:19:47 PM

@lillymunster and what should be the source of hydrogen ? there is only the fuel in the pool ....
by Edano 1/14/2012 7:20:54 PM

@Edano they put hydrazine in the pool of 4 recently but didn't explain why
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 7:40:48 PM

@Edano and lilly, I tend to agree about the source of the hydrogen but if they assumed the plants were connected some how there could have been some trapped hydrogen in #4 after it's explosion maybe
by dean 1/14/2012 7:49:55 PM

I thought on one of the videos there were some reported fire department/ambulances heading to #4 recently and a man or men walking on top of the building somewhere
by dean 1/14/2012 7:50:59 PM

@ Edano.. good seeing you
by dean 1/14/2012 7:51:06 PM

@dean there was a big incident on the 6th of January where all the police/fire and 2 buses of workers rushed to the plant. There was the worker that died on the 9th. Those are the known reports.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 7:52:48 PM

If there is some connected system the lower levels of 4 are mostly intact. They could have had a hydrogen build up if there is a pathway and a contained area.
Unit 2 has had major hydrogen build up problems. So if there is some pathway between the two it would be possible.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 7:53:56 PM

@dean there were 2 vids posted of men walking on #4 - separate occasions in the last week
by UKVal 1/14/2012 7:54:03 PM

I think it was the 9th when the explosion was mentioned to have happened... since it's not confirmed yet, it's out for deliberation
by dean 1/14/2012 8:00:32 PM

unit 2 temp doubles. TEPCO blames bad sensor
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 8:03:29 PM

Fukushima No. 2 nuclear reactor thermometer rising numbers, faulty instrument

　TEPCO 13, one of the thermometer near the bottom of Unit 2 nuclear reactor pressure vessel 1 Fukushima announced that the number is increased beyond 100 degrees. Since the thermometer near the stable at 40 degrees to 50 meters are found defective.

　According to TEPCO, the number is up, the tube containing a thermometer attached to a device for moving the control rods. Temperature was 48.4 degrees at 5:00 pm May 12, soared 102.3 degrees at 11 pm the same day, sometimes showing at 5:00 AM on May 13 116.4.

　Thermometer to measure the pressure vessel bottom and stopped cold stable reference units of 48 degrees. TEPCO can move the fuel melted, take place or may have re-criticality has been low.http://www.47news.jp/CN/201201/CN2012011301001016.html
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 8:03:41 PM

@lilly.. sounds like TEPCO said the reactor is in cold shutdown so to them it's illogical why that temp was above stable state so they say.. BOGUS.. it's an instrument problem,, go fix
by dean 1/14/2012 8:06:51 PM

same story only more intelligible English: One of the heat gauges at or near the bottom of the container vessel of reactor 2 measured heat over 100℃.

According to the explanation of Tepco, it’s the gauge of the equipment for moving control rod.
17:00 1/12: 48.4℃
23:00 1/12: 102.3℃
5:00 1/13: 116.4℃

Because the gauge at the bottom of the vessel measures 48℃, Tepco still asserts it’s in the state of cold shutdown. They assert it’s not because the fuel has moved or recriticality happened, only because the gauge was broken.'http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/possible-rapid-increase-temperature-reactor2/
by UKVal 1/14/2012 8:07:07 PM

re #4 & leaking pool. There's been some black stuff hanging out of the front of 4 - I thought it was demolition debris but it seems too stable. I then wondered if it was either old roof - but if so why leave it there, or, daft as it sounds, some kind of pond liner for the skimmer! They had what looked like a huge hose running up the near side & into #4 so they still seem to be struggling to keep the water level up. This is very speculative of course ....
by UKVal 1/14/2012 8:18:10 PM

@UKVal could it be the alternative cooling system?
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 8:29:36 PM

@lillymunster could be - but it's only been there for a few days....
by UKVal 1/14/2012 8:32:42 PM

@UKVal that then would not make sense. possibly make up water rigged system?
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 8:41:00 PM

@lillymunster that's what I assumed - of course I may be mistaken - visibility is not that good from the TBS cam
by UKVal 1/14/2012 8:43:05 PM

@UKVal if it showed up recently my guess is a hose to feed fresh water in and something to keep it in place.
by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:01:27 PM

@lilly, there is a possibility that the quake on 1-1-12 could have resulted in damage to the sfp #4 which, resulted in increased temperatures. water loss and subsequent leakage to the point of a big concern leading up to 1-6 to 1-9 then involvement of the firetrucks etc, also the efforts leading up to then for the men walking up on the building and placement of something to help out. It's always been sfp 4 which had been the worst off and that needed bracing to barely keep it sturdy enough .
by dean 1/14/2012 9:08:34 PM