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enenews.com check this web link for some information and conversations on sfp 4by dean 1/14/2012 9:12:00 PM
@dean - that's been my supposition until some evidence comes to light, which, judging by TECO's past record, will be in a few months time!by UKVal 1/14/2012 9:14:55 PM
@dean I checked METI records of #4 SFP after Jan 1 to see if the temps spiked and those reports showed no increase from Jan 4th on to about Jan 7th (the day I checked) There are missing reports for Jan 1-3by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:17:31 PM- If these flames at unit 4 happened someone had to have gotten them on video. The people saying they happened saw on TBs & TEPCO cams. There are a couple of people who record the feeds and repost on Youtube.by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:20:12 PM
- this is the vid for the 9th www.youtube.com - I'll see if I can track down the 1 that reportedly shows fire ( I watched the activity but couldn't see flames)by UKVal 1/14/2012 9:30:23 PM
- from: fukushima-diary.com 8th Jan: ' Following up this article about the decreasing of water level at reactor 4…
The blogger woman in Minamisoma leaked information from an actual Fukushima worker.
According to her post, after the earthquake of 1/1/2012, the pipe of spent fuel pool for reactor 4 was broken, the pool completely lost its water.
The worker stated, Sooner or later, the truth will have to to be widely known. Believe it or not, you will only regret. Wear a mask at least.
The pool was boiling without water.by UKVal 1/14/2012 9:40:53 PM - So far I have not seen anything out of the two workers I follow about the pool being this damaged or a hydrogen explosion. Sunny said 4 pool has issues but didn't say it was severe. He mentioned leaking back into the reactor well and the skimmer losing water. No confirmation on the explosion and boiling pool. That doesn't mean it didn't happen as they sometimes don't tweet for a while.by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:45:14 PM
- Looked again at Sunny's posts. He acknowledges the claim about an explosion on the 9th but didn't follow up with another tweet confirming or denying the blog post.by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:47:48 PM
- Rather worrying: 'Japanese government is going to build a remote Japanese city in Chennai of India by cooperating with private sector.
It can accommodate 50,000 people with factory complex, shopping mall, and hospital etc..
Edano, minister of economy visited Chennal on 1/10/2012 to ask for the state’s help.
Mizuho corporate bank and JGC corporation are going to invest 4 billion JPY on the local development company.
Factory complex (2.3 km2) will start being sold from this summer, they will already start operating the factories in 2013.
Residential area will have 2 km2 area, consist of resort city beside Indian ocean, which will be developed from 2013. Japanese shopping mall, golf course, hospitals with Japanese doctors will be included too.
This plan was announced without any advance notice, and starting the factories in 2013 is really soon.
It’s giving some Japanese people the impression that Japanese government is building the ark only for rich people.' ex-skf.blogspot.comby UKVal 1/14/2012 9:50:01 PM - Reactor 4 on fire. Video show fire/steam and workers sacrificing their lives. Video is difficult to watch..first van drives in..workers in white get to overhead beam..steam explodes from the red fire/smoke area on first level/floor of R4, then workers in white suits are seen running back and forth across the beam..dumping material on the radioactive materials. Pray for them.
www.youtube.com from: fukushima-diary.comby UKVal 1/14/2012 9:53:13 PM - the ex-skf link doesn't go to the right place?by lillymunster 1/14/2012 9:54:03 PM
- whoops - entry below dated 6th Janby UKVal 1/14/2012 9:54:03 PM
- @lillymunster sorry link should be: fukushima-diary.com - I have too many tabs openby UKVal 1/14/2012 9:56:20 PM
- here's the link to the video from the 6th allegedly showing flames in #4 www.youtube.comby UKVal 1/14/2012 9:58:03 PM
- I looked at the video. Not seeing anything that looks at all like what was claimed in that report. The sun is shining hard on the left side because there is a solid light surface and it is morning. The time lapse makes it look like it pulses but it is sped up as can be seen in the boats going past. I didn't see any workers running around with it on full screen. I did see a crane or lift move something down and back up again in front of unit 4. I could see the shadow against the lower building.by lillymunster 1/14/2012 10:00:38 PM
- @lillymunster I agree - I didn't see flames but could make out some men in white inside 4by UKVal 1/14/2012 10:04:11 PM
www.houseoffoust.com
re: #2 temp doubles, instrument failure. i think it cannot be doubted that it must be faulty instrument. dark blue: control rod device housing top.by Edano via Houseoffoust 1/14/2012 10:11:07 PM- this sensor has often failed before.by Edano 1/14/2012 10:12:15 PM
- in fact it's a mystery that this sensor is not molten into the corium. :) the control rod housing should be liquified.by Edano 1/14/2012 10:14:10 PM
- thiis is the google translated text for the video below ' Uploaded by 454541919 on five Jan, 2012
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I frequently had to move heavy equipment in front of Unit 4, and zoom on the editorial Mimashitara, broke the figure reflected in the building's workers walk Unit No. 4.
Rising like a lifter for a duration of 10 seconds per aerial, people move from side to side down around 35 seconds, so a lot of people are acting on a more even level after a while to see.
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I can see figures up on the beam -they move from right to leftby UKVal 1/14/2012 10:20:23 PM - @Edano, agree on the sensor being in corium...by dean 1/14/2012 10:49:04 PM
- @dean hi dean :)by Edano 1/14/2012 10:58:13 PM
- Former PM attends Fukushima accident hearing
Former Prime Minister Naoto Kan has attended a meeting of a Japanese civic group that is investigating the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
The Independent Investigation Commission of the Fukushima Nuclear Accident held a closed-door session on Saturday to hear how the government dealt with the accident.
It was Kan's first appearance at such an occasion even though government and Diet panels have held similar hearings.
The commission says Kan described the situation inside the prime minister's office immediately after the nuclear accident.
It quotes Kan as saying that, until then, there was no denying that everyone in Japan believed in the safety of nuclear power plants.
Kan encouraged the 6-member commission, saying it is meaningful that different groups including civic ones investigate the accident.
The head of the commission, Koichi Kitazawa, said the other hearings shed light on how politicians tried to tackle the nuclear crisis even though they were skeptical about the functions of political organizations and their management systems.
He said his group intends to pursue its investigation so that a similar crisis will not happen in Japan again.
The commission will make its report public at the end of next month.
Saturday, January 14, 2012 23:13 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 1/14/2012 11:29:39 PM 
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 1/14/2012 11:32:31 PM- no, not tepco. "Shinto ritual in snow" english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 1/14/2012 11:33:02 PM
- Antinuclear conference urges the need to phase out nuclear power
By Megumi Iizuka
YOKOHAMA, Jan. 14, Kyodo
Politicians and civic activists from around the world gathered for a two-day antinuclear conference Saturday in Yokohama, urging the need to phase out nuclear power and shift to green energy by learning from nuclear disasters in Fukushima and around the world.
In the opening session, Yuri Tomitsuka, a 10-year-old boy who evacuated from Fukushima Prefecture to Yokohama said, ''I want to ask politicians which is more important. Is it money or our lives? I don't want to get ill. Nuclear plants are not necessary for children.''
A message saying, ''I just only wish there were no nuclear plants, just no nuclear plants,'' was cited by Tatsuya Yoshioka, representative of Peace Boat, one of the organizers of the Global Conference for a Nuclear Power Free World bringing together about 5,000 participants from more than 30 countries. english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 1/14/2012 11:34:31 PM - Antinuclear conference urges the need to connect to the world
By Megumi Iizuka
YOKOHAMA, Jan. 14, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 1/14/2012 11:35:41 PM - Antinuclear conference begins urging elimination of nuclear power
By Megumi Iizuka
YOKOHAMA, Jan. 14, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 1/14/2012 11:36:19 PM 
Ohio gozaimasu allby bo 1/15/2012 12:19:53 AM
Good morning, interesting discussion. I'm near Tokyo, so following the SPF#4 rumors closely. To me it is obvious that the pool is still holding water, as there have been workers all over the roof and reactor floor recently. In this clip from Jan 13th you can clearly see them installing a large metal sheet by crane, possibly shielding: tinyurl.com/6nwap3y. What I want to know is, is this proactive reenforcement or crisis response. I think if we could find those radiation survey maps released last year we could make an intelligent guess. Remember the color coded floor plans with surveyed radiation levels all mapped out? If the dozen workers we can see on the cam are being sent into a high radiation area, we could deduce with some certainty that they are responding to some kind of emergency rather than the more cautious planned approach.by Jim 1/15/2012 1:38:21 AM- by dean 1/15/2012 2:46:39 AM
- this is the article just postedby dean 1/15/2012 2:47:08 AM
- Government envisioned Tokyo evacuation in worst-case scenario, AJW by The Asahi Shimbun, Jan. 7, 2012:
[...] In a worst-case scenario, the central government would have requested the evacuation of Tokyo and everyone within a 250-kilometer radius of the damaged Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant.
Goshi Hosono, minister in charge of the nuclear disaster [...] said the government had not disclosed the report, which had been submitted on March 25, out of concern over public reaction.
“We had refrained from publicizing it because we were afraid that it could cause the public to grow excessively worried,” he said. [...]
The Scenario
Melting of 1,535 fuel assemblies, an equivalent of fuel used for two reactors, kept in a spent fuel storage pool at the No. 4 reactor
If another hydrogen explosion took place at the No. 1 reactor, workers would be forced to flee and suspend recovery operations
Resulting in an enormous amount of radioactive material released from the pool in two weeksby dean 1/15/2012 2:47:12 AM - @Jim Here's the link to the 1st plant rad survey, but rad levels have decreased alot since then. Maybe it'll help. www.tepco.co.jpby M.I.A. 1/15/2012 3:32:31 AM
- @M.I.A. Thank you! But the ones I am specifically talking about are the floor-by-floor surveys from inside the reactor buildings. The first time they send someone to explore the main floor of building 4 they released some photographs and a radiation survey map. Some parts of the building were too hot to approach so they used remote sensors and a long pole, as the damage to the building was too bad to allow the survey robot. If the other building surveys are anything to go by, over time the levels were getting higher rather than lower inside the buildings themselves.by Jim 1/15/2012 3:43:26 AM
- OK I found one of the maps I was talking about - turns out the area on the 5th floor was not too radioactive when last surveyed (compared to the other three buildings anyway). It was declared safe to work there. Perhaps the increased activity has something to do with reenforcing the spent fuel pool gate which leaked after the earthquake on the first?
www.tepco.co.jpby Jim 1/15/2012 3:55:46 AM - Jim. I saw them hoisting something up the front face of unit 4 on the Jan 9th video posted a few hours ago here. On full screen you can see the dark shadow of something big, like a sheet of something. The workers admitted there was some problem with the gate. But the reactor well is full of water.by lillymunster 1/15/2012 4:04:21 AM
- The Yokohama conference is big news in Japan. Majority of the tweets are about it.by lillymunster 1/15/2012 4:33:52 AM
- from today's plant status report: - At 3:18 pm on January 14, we started operation of the radioactive
material removal instrument for the spent fuel pool in Unit 3 www.tepco.co.jpby lillymunster 1/15/2012 4:38:48 AM - @lilly well, big news now that the underwear convict has been nabbed.by bo 1/15/2012 4:39:45 AM
- @bo was he running town in his skivvies?by lillymunster 1/15/2012 4:42:41 AM
- @lilly no, first thing he did was steal some clothes.by bo 1/15/2012 4:45:14 AM
- @bo well at least he is modest. :-)by lillymunster 1/15/2012 4:46:10 AM
- @lilly it's cold here! When they caught him he said he was happy to go back to prison since he hardly eaten anything for two days.by bo 1/15/2012 4:47:06 AM
Yokohama antinuclear conference draws thousands of activists, experts www.japantimes.co.jp www.japantimes.co.jp
by lillymunster via Japantimes.co.jp 1/15/2012 4:47:10 AM
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