Japan Earthquake

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...as to Indian Point npp being 50 miles from the tip of Manhattan, even a small radiological emergency would precipitate not only the end of the industry, it would bring the economy of this country to a halt.
by Peter 1/18/2012 9:57:52 PM

@Peter true. There is an unsolved problem with indian point. They know they could not evacuate everyone yet do nothing. But the threat of another terror attack causes all sorts of freak out and spending to try to mitigate that risk. How much would it cost to relocate all of NYC if indian point had a massive explosion?
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 10:10:45 PM

At least, at the report's end, they concede that the contamination in some areas of Fukushima Prefecture is so high that the inhabitants will not be able to return. What is not discussed is the likelihood with which emergency core cooling systems will actually perform when they must. Of course there is no way of knowing this, until they are needed.
by Peter 1/18/2012 10:12:23 PM

Emergency Preparedness page on Brown's Ferry site is almost two years old and dusty. www.tva.com
by Cryptococcus 1/18/2012 10:37:35 PM

@lillymunster , the coal issue remains to be seen. I do not know the details, but it is very well possible that coal powered plants in Germany use high-grade scrubbers, and it remains to be seen how much of their energy needs will actually have to be made up with fossile fuels. The point is that if nuclear power needed to be phased out rapidly in this country, the sustainable energy sources would be even less developed.
by Peter 1/18/2012 10:47:27 PM

at a loss for words www.mirror.co.uk iaincarstairs.files.wordpress.com
fukushima-diary.com

Dear Miles here is one of the problems with exposure to radiation.
by eyes edited by lillymunster 1/18/2012 10:47:45 PM

@Ian, Well done video- thank you for taking the time to put it all together.
by eyes 1/18/2012 11:03:14 PM

@eyes, thanks! :) Perfect timing, your comment was posted just a few minutes before I popped on since my last being on ~ 10 hr ago.
@MaryW, thanks for embedding the video! :) So glad Arnie is bringing attention to the BEIR-risk model and to the unfolding research based on the largest cohorts to date that the BEIR model may actually underestimate cancer risk, consistently but not significantly such that the BEIR model is at least correct and at worst an underestimate of harm.
by Ian 1/18/2012 11:30:34 PM

@Ian i'm confused. Can you post a link to your video?
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:31:09 PM

Protesters disrupt meeting on nuclear reactor restarts in Tokyo online.wsj.com
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:31:27 PM

Found this article, Don’t Worry, It’s Just a Little Radiation, dated Weekend Edition March 11-13. 2011. It could appear in tomorrow's news with Jan 19.2012 date, and no one would think twice that its from 10 months ago. What does that tell us? :) www.counterpunch.org
by MaryW 1/18/2012 11:34:58 PM

@lillymunster, the video's linked in my last comment. Arnie features my video critiquing the 20 mSv/y limit in his video. Arnie also opens his video by presenting BEIR-model implications very clearly. Exactly the details of the risk modeling that get almost no attention in the rare cases the BEIR model ever gets attention in media.
by Ian edited by IanGoddard 1/18/2012 11:36:19 PM

@Ian I knew it as soon as I head your voice. :)
by MaryW 1/18/2012 11:37:13 PM

@Ian copyright the video of yours
by MaryW 1/18/2012 11:37:46 PM

pic at the meeting protest www.japantoday.com
by lillymunster via Japantoday 1/18/2012 11:44:12 PM

@lillymunster, Is there a reason you didn't link the other 2 images in my post? All 3 together illustrates the point.
by eyes 1/18/2012 11:44:14 PM

@MaryW, Arnie did ask first. I'm thinking I might make a trailer-sized version. One that covers the core-research facts in under 5 minutes, that would increase the number of people seeing the sweep of research versus only the few who'll persevere through a 20 minute video. That short version can then link to the long version for more in-depth coverage.
by Ian 1/18/2012 11:44:29 PM

@eyes trying to figure it out?
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:44:30 PM

@eyes I think I have it fixed. I didn't realize there were two pictures in there
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:45:56 PM

@Ian Hey, that sounds like a great idea!
by MaryW 1/18/2012 11:48:10 PM

It is a visual demonstration of genetic damage from 3 different exposures to radiation.
by eyes 1/18/2012 11:49:37 PM

Ex SKF has a rundown of what happened at the NISA meeting. The behavior of NISA was so bad two members refused to participate in the meeting after the board kicked the public out. NISA also tried to smear the protesters by feeding an inaccurate report to the media. IWJ had their live video feed going online and many saw what really happen and now know NISA was lying to the press and that the people were tossed out of a meeting for trying to say something at a public meeting. At least one of the NISA members is criticizing the effort to restart the Oi reactor. ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:53:30 PM

Japanese media report with lots of imagery of possible-melt-through scenarios at Fukushima www.youtube.com Here they show control-rob insertion holes being a melt-through route www.youtube.com
by Ian 1/18/2012 11:54:10 PM

@Eyes, trying to repost your pics..

iaincarstairs.files.wordpress.com
by lillymunster via Iaincarstairs.files.wordpress 1/18/2012 11:55:51 PM

fukushima-diary.com

they got wonky because they didn't have spaces before and after the address for each.
by lillymunster via Fukushima-diary 1/18/2012 11:56:34 PM

Would a botanist be able to shed some light on the funky looking plants being found in Japan? Some looked like run of the mill deformed fruit but some were just bizarre. I don't know enough about plant genetics etc. to make any determination of the cause of these.
by lillymunster 1/18/2012 11:57:54 PM

can you clip the photo from the article to post with the other 2?
by eyes 1/18/2012 11:58:33 PM

That is a 28 lb. sweet potato. It goes nicely with the radiated seeds Burpee was marketing in the 50's.
by eyes 1/19/2012 12:02:50 AM

@eyes off the mirror link?
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 12:08:22 AM

yes
by eyes 1/19/2012 12:09:19 AM

eep! images.mirror.co.uk
by lillymunster via Images.mirror.co.uk 1/19/2012 12:10:17 AM

Thank you lilly. Yes there are botanists who can explain the mechanism of genetic mutations in plants. The pictures speak louder than words to me
by eyes 1/19/2012 12:14:42 AM

@all, thank you for paying attention. Writing one more letter to an elected official today just wouldn't do.
by eyes 1/19/2012 12:23:07 AM

english.kyodonews.jp

Nuclear agency examines reactor test results amid protest
People demand to sit in on a meeting of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency with experts at the industry ministry in Tokyo over the safety test results on two idled nuclear reactors on Jan. 18, 2012. The start of the meeting was delayed due to the protest. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 1/19/2012 12:26:18 AM

@eyes I can't remember what they call that human defect. I think there might have been some of that kind after the atomic bombings in Japan but can't remember for sure
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 12:33:13 AM

Ohio gozaimasu tomodachi!
by bo 1/19/2012 12:43:02 AM

Hi Bo!
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 12:46:43 AM

So good to see people fighting for truth and accountability in Tokyo!
by bo 1/19/2012 12:48:23 AM

@bo I remember people afraid to say anything to others about their concern about radiation levels and contaminated food months ago. Things are changing
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 1:01:19 AM

I believe it is called Proteus aka Beckwith-Wiedemann Syndrome (what the Elephant Man had). en.wikipedia.org or ghr.nlm.nih.gov
by Peter 1/19/2012 1:05:22 AM

@lilly so true. Once again, I am amazed that people were as patient as they were, but this is very Japanese to believe in the system and to let it work. The brutal betrayal of what has happened has really jarred a lot of people, and they are no longer playing their appropriate roles. Thank God.
by bo 1/19/2012 1:11:38 AM

cesium collection device looks quite like a turkey roasting pan enenews.com
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 1:21:27 AM

@bo It is obviously good for Japan. It is good for everywhere else, makes it so much harder for other countries to ignore their nuclear problems when people in Japan are up in arms and demanding change.
by lillymunster 1/19/2012 1:23:07 AM