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@meretisa. You and your shaman could be right. The problem is that statistically the world and science folks at large don't buy this. So, it's not you. It's the stats. I say respect the stats so your credibility is not laughed at. I have great respect for you and others like you but the world is not there with you. It's affects all of us posting here.

@VeenOui - No it doesn't look the same, either the sun went behind the clouds or they're tinkering with the white balance on the camera.

The difficulty now is that with such extreme levels of radiation, how will they continue to prevent the situation from worsening. When it comes to this situation, there are no experts, only informed speculation, because we have no precedence. Chernobyl was entirely different with a realm of problems wholly unlike these.

@Ralph Unger I understand the batteries lasted approx 1.5 hours rather than the 8 hours they were designed to provide.

@Marie --normal for cooling water or normal for background? The workers were exposed to 2-6 Sv total. Water now coming from reactor #2 is 1 Sv/hr.

I'm off to bed, goodnight everyone.

@marie - Maybe it's smurfcam?

Updated limits are from 100 mSV/hr to 250 mSv/hr. In my book that is sign in to cancerville.

@alaskan They said workers had a dose rate of 170-180msv, and said what the surface of the water was - I thought 400msv, but at the time remember thinking it didn't make sense. should have been in bequrels, I thought. anybody remember link?

@Alaskan: Link please. I am getting very frustrated by the personal commentaries without support. Without same, we are left to speculation or time wasted searching for corroboration.

@VeenOui - Could be the white balance is not adjusted for cloudy days.

@Karen, see Kyoto news. I've posted the link 3 times in the past 2 hours.

@Alaskan and I posted it twice.

I think it is good practice that if you are just joining or rejoing the discussion to go back a few pages and catch up before commenting. Any thoughts?

[OPINION] I lived in Japan long enough to garner many Japanese relatives. The public there has been acutely suspicious of politicians, militarists, bureaucrats & TEPCO for several decades. There is surprisingly little internal obedience to a national ideology --much less than in the USA-- however there is an extraordinary amount of pragmatic obedience to the social contract. The Japanese public is extremely worried right now but the social directive is "do not sow panic". Cultural cohesion allows the Japanese people to self-govern as a cooperative whole even as they are regularly disturbed & disappointed by the inadequacies of government & corporate leaders. Japan is almost entirely run by middle managers at work & family matriarchs at home. A consensus-oriented, highly reflective society will have a lot of difficulty making the decision to evacuate Sendai (1MM) let alone Tokyo, however, if it became necessary, they would figure out a way to do it . . .

Sounds like a plan Sinthia.

BBC www.bbc.co.uk

CONSIDERATION: I keep thinking about the stigma that survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have had to endure and how Fukushima evacuees will now have the same alienation.

@Apollo my exchanges with the Japanese agree with your viewpoint. "I know I am being lied to ,but I must agree."

@Alaskan found reuters story about workers uk.reuters.com