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  • Nope not even hydrocarbon based, unless gasoline was somehow involved.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:26:47 AM

  • @Ralph Unger there are many things that show TEPCO knew there was a risk to the older units on that site. Their actions in some circumstances show they knew and made changes in newer plants but did nothing to retrofit the old ones.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 2:26:52 AM

  • Otherwise I like the guy, but that was what he used to peove his point and it is wrong.
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 2:26:56 AM

  • @Nancy have you checked my posts?
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:27:55 AM

  • @dean I agree that has to be done. I think they also need to get a better plan on power outages in the US. 4 hours is not enough to get power going again in many circumstances. They need to be able to keep those units running longer than that.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 2:28:09 AM

  • JIm check this out
    by dean 5/1/2011 2:28:09 AM

  • by dean 5/1/2011 2:28:13 AM

  • @Ralph Unger sorry I just jumped back in and only read part of the page.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 2:28:23 AM

  • My posts are a few days old, but it is a slam dunk(keyword) against TEPCO.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:29:19 AM

  • If you are a mod, pls re-post it.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:29:55 AM

  • much work will need to be done in USA.. spent fuel pools will be a hot issue,,,, we need to keep pushing our representatives etc..
    by dean 5/1/2011 2:30:15 AM

  • @dean, the Hindenburg was swallowed by one great fireball, was not she?
    by Peter Melzer 5/1/2011 2:31:38 AM

  • yeppers..
    by dean 5/1/2011 2:31:51 AM

  • @dean I went to school in Colorado Springs for a while and read some of his original manuscripts. I thought, shouldn't these be in a vault somewhere?
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 2:32:01 AM

  • @dean My rep is Nancy Pelosi, it's proven to be a waste of time trying to communicate with her.
    by Rob in SF 5/1/2011 2:32:44 AM

  • 33 ft a second of combustion, not questions from me. Static electricity and an over torqued wire brace which cut a hydrogen bladder, done deal.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:33:22 AM

  • @Peter Melzer It was, but that actually was deflageration in that case. The detonation comes about when the reactants are throughly mixed.
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 2:34:02 AM

  • @Hindenburg..
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:34:23 AM

  • @Rob in SF Don't feel bad. Mine is the opposite end of the political spectrum and still, completely useless.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 2:34:30 AM

  • sigh @ Rob... well maybe we need to send to all of the knotheads
    by dean 5/1/2011 2:35:57 AM

  • Other than that I think Gunderson is right about the pool.
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 2:37:47 AM

  • I have never heard of the combustion that Gunederson mentioned. That does not mean that it did not happen, I just think it deserves close critical observation.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:45:01 AM

  • @Ralph Unger He thinks there was a moment of criticality and there may well have been, but the point he used to help prove his argument was flawed.
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 2:46:44 AM

  • Hydrogen burns clean, as in clear, you cannot see it but many dust and water particles could add to the mix. I
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:47:02 AM

  • Are they not burned instantly as the hydrogen was?
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:48:42 AM

  • I think he is correct, but questions should be asked.
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:49:49 AM

  • Was the red blast from the pool caused by the water in the pool? A hydrogen blast caused by the pool? Or one from the fuel pools caused by the containment?
    by Ralph Unger 5/1/2011 2:57:20 AM

  • @Nancy wanted to know what data has been changed or withheld? The rad reading for #4, which you could get by fudging the url, is now gone completely. has a note: No. 4 in the absence of inspections stopped reactor fuel assemblies for, are excluded from the list.
    atmc.jp
    by marie rich 5/1/2011 3:28:44 AM

  • @marie rich thanks. I figured that would go missing eventually. Not sure what "absence of inspections" means. It is either a potentially realistic reading or the sensor is giving a faulty reading. With it being that high they should be able to make a better statement than that.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 3:33:06 AM

  • Also, Jorge Stolfi appears to no longer be updating his site :-( www.ic.unicamp.br
    by marie rich 5/1/2011 3:38:54 AM

  • @marie rich I wonder if Majjham knows why Stolfi stopped?
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 3:40:56 AM

  • Hopefully it updates on Monday.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 3:44:55 AM

  • @marie rich Still concerning they have not updated. I had the impression they were pretty reliable and constant. If it just suddenly stops updating with no further info it would be worth poking around to find out why.
    by Nancy 5/1/2011 4:00:01 AM

  • I really liked how the data was presented in multiple formats. It would be a shame to lose it.
    by marie rich 5/1/2011 4:06:16 AM

  • looks like a small bit of smoke on the teppycam. Going to crash out. See everyone in about 8 hours pointscope01.jp

    by Nancy via Pointscope01.jp 5/1/2011 4:13:10 AM

  • pointscope01.jp
    Teppycam --> 2011/05/01 15:01 JST

    by alblee via Pointscope01.jp 5/1/2011 6:33:07 AM

  • translate.google.co.uk
    Tokyo Electric Power issued a warning Fukushima One reactor may explode
    by elainekirk 5/1/2011 6:56:26 AM

  • Tokyo Electric Power will be the first nuclear power plant in Fukushima temporary breakwater to be built near
    translate.google.co.uk
    by elainekirk 5/1/2011 7:00:06 AM

  • @Elaine, here ...
    jp.quote.com
    Water injection reduced to avoid explosion at Japan plant
    by alblee edited by elainekirk 5/1/2011 7:16:45 AM

  • I.ve been all around the world and haven't left. How you guys?
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 7:48:40 AM

  • @elaine This will be nice for us. The people to the east do not need it. I don't know which is worse drowned or flooded. Or whipped away by a twister..Life is Good.
    by Jim Carver 5/1/2011 7:57:11 AM

  • Hi, @Jim.
    For @Elaine:
    news.xinhuanet.com
    TEPCO to build makeshift bulwark around Fukushima nuclear plant
    by alblee edited by alblee 5/1/2011 7:58:14 AM

  • Sunday, May 01, 2011 09:02
    TEPCO official: Fukushima is man-made disaster
    A vice president of Tokyo Electric Power Company says he believes the nuclear crisis at Fukushima nuclear power plant is a man-made disaster.
    TEPCO vice president Norio Tsuzumi 皷紀男 visited Iitate village in Fukushima Prefecture on Saturday and apologized to about 1,000 villagers who gathered to hear him speak.
    When he was asked if he thinks of the nuclear crisis a man-made disaster or a natural disaster, he said personally he thinks it is a man-made disaster.
    All of the 6,000 residents of Iitate were instructed to evacuate by late May based on accumulated radiation exposure levels caused by emissions from the Fukushima Daiichi power plant.
    After the meeting with local residents, Tsuzumi explained to reporters why he feels it is a man-made disaster.
    He said that some say the nuclear accident in Fukushima was beyond any expectations but personally he thinks adequate precautions should have been in place.
    japan-afterthebigearthquake.blogspot.com

    [OMG, heh heh, the insurance adjusters are gonna gasp... - Alblee]
    by elainekirk 5/1/2011 8:17:10 AM

  • Sunday, May 01, 2011 09:02
    Water from 3rd reactor to be transferred
    Tokyo Electric Power Company is preparing to transfer radioactive water from the Number 3 reactor of the disaster-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
    Restoration work at the plant has been hindered by highly radioactive water that has been accumulating in the Number 1 to Number 4 reactors.
    The utility has given priority to transferring the most highly contaminated water in the Number 2 reactor to a temporary storage site...continues
    japan-afterthebigearthquake.blogspot.com
    by elainekirk 5/1/2011 8:19:12 AM

  • @elainekirk If i remember this correctly, the trench between 2 and 4 is connected.and isn't that the one that keeps filling up rapidly ?
    by Veen Oui 5/1/2011 8:21:48 AM

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