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What do you think will happen if #4 falls?

@radioguy Oh don't I know.

@carabnr you would have spent and non spent fuel all over the ground in the rubble. What the releases or technical reactions in a pile like that someone like Dean might have a better idea. My guess is it would burn. Would cause a real problem dealing with the plant area if it did.

@radioguy what was Mark's take?

let me see if I can find it. Yes, here, in a blast of dark humor nearly 24 hours ago?

@Cat living in Japan it seems pretty accurate in terms of day and night.

A I recall it was a giddy rendition of carefree comments about SFP falling and blowing out the sides, flooding down into the decimated R3 and knocking out the RPV on the way tu undermingint R2 subbasement or something...

@radioguy I thought maybe it involved a TEPCO announcement that #4 is now operating in a horizontal position?

@radioguy gallows humor, a well known coping mechanism.

I have 2 tabs open. Both same Url, both say they are live but showing different images one really murky, other much clearer with light on building wall?????

@Nancy Oh right. It mentioned how the new configuration would make lifting all that water easier ort something... l it was like that anyway. Dire pronouncement, happytalk silver lining.

Yep, pathetic lack of coverage and then pieces like this: www.msnbc.msn.com stating radiation levels at 1 dropped, workers will re-enter and everything will be hunky dory in 6-9 months. Ahem.

@Nancy I have alerted my friends at RT and they are trying to figure out how to present the information. They welcome anyone who can speak authoritatively (which I can't) to talk with them or go on air. So if anyone want I can connect them. Meanwhile I know they are working on how to present what they are seeing.

@bo What are we trying to present exactly?

@Jim they have noticed #4 leaning, and also all the smoke. They don't know what to make of it.

Really cruddy weather there today !

@elainekirk night! sleep well!

Night Elaine.

MAY 4, 2011 - EPA IS ALL DONE WITH FUKUSHIMA - WILL SCALE DOWN MONITORING, REMOVE DEPLOYABLES AND RESUME ROUTINE, QUARTERLY TESTING - ACTIVISTS CONCERNED ABOUT LEVELS OF RADIOSTRONTIUMS IN MILK AND AIRBORNE PLUTONIUM-238

On the evening of May 3, the EPA posted on its Daily Data Summary page that the agency has unilaterally decided that due to the "consistent decrease in radiation levels across the country" it will begin transitioning to the normal "routine RadNet sampling and analysis process for precipitation, drinking water and milk," which is a protocol that calls for testing "milk and drinking water samples on a quarterly basis and precipitation samples as part of a monthly composite." The EPA is also considering removing from Hawaii, Alaska and other Pacific locations the "additional air monitors deployed in response to the Japan nuclear incident."

The EPA's startling move comes at a time when activists are criticizing the agency for not ramping up analysis of milk samples for radio-strontiums - strontium-89 was detected by the agency in early April in milk in Hawaii and strontium isotopes were detected in Moscow's air by a company named Radon in March - thus, there is a good chance that most food products in the U.S. contain trace amounts of radioactive strontium, but there is no data on this.
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@bo That's a tuffy. Need a bona fido experto i think. Can we absolutely rule out that it's not a physical, optical aberration?

@Bo, what does kosa mean ?

@Jim I know they are looking for structural engineers in Moscow to look at the images and comment. But it is Victory Day weekend there and no one is at work.