Japan Earthquake | Page 1037

  • @Edano now that they had thier smoke show last night, do you think anyone will be able to tell which event the rad readings came from
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:19:15 PM

  • @elainekirk , that is a logistical problem that one of the wealthiest nations in the world should be able to solve. You just need a fleet of these vehicles. With every new day, there should be more.
    by Peter Melzer 5/7/2011 11:23:13 PM

  • @RBeaner : we can only speculate, but i really assume they know how to construct a solid foundation. they constructed skyscrapers in tokyo and they all are still standing.
    by Edano 5/7/2011 11:24:19 PM

  • @RBeaner : nice findings. maybe we find a geological construction map.
    by Edano 5/7/2011 11:25:20 PM

  • @Edano Another 4.6 warning
    by Veenie 5/7/2011 11:25:35 PM

  • does amyone know how to get to the live event
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:30:14 PM

  • by Nancy 5/7/2011 11:31:13 PM

  • @Edano That would be interesting to see details of the foundation construction. From Discussion here scienceblogs.com "(from: www.ce.washington.edu)

    “The spectacular collapse of the Hanshin expressway illustrates the effects of the high loads that were imposed on structures in the area. The strong ground motions that led to collapse of the Hanshin Express way also caused severe liquefaction damage to port and wharf facilities as can be seen to the left and below...

    When liquefaction occurs, the strength of the soil decreases and, the ability of a soil deposit to support foundations for buildings and bridges is reduced as seen in the photo of the overturned apartment complex buildings in Niigata in 1964.

    Liquefied soil also exerts higher pressure on retaining walls, which can cause them to tilt or slide. This movement can cause settlement of the retained soil and destruction of structures on the ground surface”

    These were concrete and steel structures designed to be earthquake resistant. They crumbled like crackers.
    Interesting reading from Japanese seismologists on using probabilistic models to estimate earthquake ground motion intensity (from 2007"
    by RBeaner 5/7/2011 11:32:27 PM

  • it doesn't show anything past 6:30 or so
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:32:56 PM

  • @fitter it doesnt start til 7pm
    by Nancy 5/7/2011 11:33:52 PM

  • starts at 7 pm central daylight time
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:35:59 PM

  • @Nancy ok that makes sense
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:36:27 PM

  • right church wrong pew
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:36:49 PM

  • That bright spot on edge of #2 again. live cam
    by Cat 5/7/2011 11:39:05 PM

  • @fitter interesting video 3min of liquefaction in tokyo central park, reclaimed lan, but same idea. www.paleoseismicity.org
    by RBeaner 5/7/2011 11:39:19 PM

  • mock up for fukushima

    by dean 5/7/2011 11:39:38 PM

  • @dean I had a phone call yesterday, short cut the lady told her to take me off the list wasn't interested....blbla blab ( i have six lines and get about 20 calls a day from "sales") as i was hanging up and it was to late... heard her say that she was from the NRC .... I had been e-mailing them on various things... next time i guess i'll ask who is calling first ... I just went by the caller ID "unavalible"
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:40:05 PM

  • fitter that mockup shows pretty good levels of the facility
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:40:06 PM

  • @RBeaner : i still hope there is no soil under the reactors. under a highway, okay, but not under an npp.
    by Edano 5/7/2011 11:40:18 PM

  • @RBeaner there was a lot of discussion on the web about that in the berginng days....
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:41:10 PM

  • wwwwwww shucks fitter
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:41:49 PM

  • @Nancy. Would it be possible to email that cam picture to anyone to post. I don't know if you have already seen that view. It is impressive how far the zoom is.
    by Cat 5/7/2011 11:43:26 PM

  • @dean gremblims are back..... now its driving me crazy to know why she was calling..... I could hear her talking as I was puting the reciver on the hook, but i have sent so many e-mails i don't have a clue who might have responded
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:43:42 PM

  • @dean You coming in for the live event?
    by Jim 5/7/2011 11:43:58 PM

  • @dean do you have a link or larger pic of the mock ups
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:44:31 PM

  • I plan to Jim
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:44:41 PM

  • @dean Cool, we had a little snafu at first, but I think we have it now.
    by Jim 5/7/2011 11:45:23 PM

  • @Jim tried going do we just go to thhe page you and bo were on.....
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:45:30 PM

  • @Jim 700 central time
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:45:59 PM

  • @fitter Had to get some things worked out, on at 7
    by Jim 5/7/2011 11:46:11 PM

  • by dean 5/7/2011 11:46:14 PM

  • @fitter Everything look ok on the screen, etc.?
    by Jim 5/7/2011 11:50:37 PM

  • @dean gremblin!!!!!!!!!!!! read they have 16 relief vavles on the main steam lines, but could not trace now i see them
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:50:51 PM

  • @Jim ty i'll be there if the gremlis let me... they just kicked me to tjhe other page again
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:51:54 PM

  • I thought you'd like that photo .. .@fittter... those are big RV's
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:52:17 PM

  • and another one
    Saturday May 7 2011, 23:18:27 UTC 24 minutes ago off the east coast of Honshu, Japan 4.8 31.9
    by Edano 5/7/2011 11:52:29 PM

  • @dean surry has one i should take a ride over there, i don't read *** and couln't figure if they had six 4" lines or 6 4

    '
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:54:00 PM

  • lines
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:54:04 PM

  • gremblins11111111111
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:54:16 PM

  • @Edano This paper describes seismic soil-structure interaction analyses for. Cite Unit 6 reactor building at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant and .... A series of rigid beams were used to model the foundation mat www.google.com Says plant founded on a mudstone 17 m below ground surface.
    by RBeaner 5/7/2011 11:54:49 PM

  • off to jim party, better leave early i guess i'm taking the gremblins with me tonight.... still no electrtions...
    by fitter 5/7/2011 11:55:48 PM

  • probably lots more RV's if you count all in the facility....
    by dean 5/7/2011 11:56:52 PM

  • @Edano and RBean Not exactly granite, eh? From wikipedia: Mudstone (also called mudrock) is a fine grained sedimentary rock whose original constituents were clays or muds. Grain size is up to 0.0625 mm (0.0025 in) with individual grains too small to be distinguished without a microscope. With increased pressure over time the platey clay minerals may become aligned, with the appearance of fissility or parallel layering. This finely bedded material that splits readily into thin layers is called shale, as distinct from mudstone. The lack of fissility or layering in mudstone may be due either to original texture or to the disruption of layering by burrowing organisms in the sediment prior to lithification. Mud rocks, such as mudstone and shale comprise some 65% of all sedimentary rocks. Mudstone looks like hardened clay and, depending upon circumstances under which it was formed, it may show cracks or fissures, like a sun-baked clay deposit. They can be separated into these categories:
    Siltstone - greater than half of the composition is silt-sized particles.
    Claystone - greater than half of the composition is clay-sized particles.
    Mudstone - hardened mud; a mix of silt and clay sized particles. Mudstone can include: Shale - exhibits lamination or fissility.
    Argillite - has undergone low grade metamorphism.
    by marie rich 5/7/2011 11:59:05 PM

  • good account of the March quake & its implications drgeorgepc.com including historical info on tsunami heights
    by UKVal 5/8/2011 12:00:08 AM

  • by marie rich via I1207.photobucket 5/8/2011 12:05:13 AM

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