Japan Earthquake | Page 1054

  • While reviewing the latest from the live video feed, I was astonished at how much damage has occurred at Reactor 4. Now the light comes streaming through the skeleton remains of what was once a white proud building. Here are some pictures that were captured on May 3rd 2011 compared against pictures taken May 7th 2011, all times CST lucaswhitefieldhixson.com
    by Majjham Zazen 5/9/2011 1:43:01 AM

  • Thanks, @Angie. I hope it's not going to make landfall, of course, because that would make things worse than they already are. As it is, even just the off-core or peripheral turbulence could already be worrisome, especially for a storm coming in after several days of picking up moisture and heat energy from wide open sea.

    By Angie:
    > ... That track map you have up doesnt have it making land fall any where in Japan.
    > Have a look on the other board for @thunders lastest up date on it.
    by ALBLEE edited by alblee 5/9/2011 1:49:39 AM

  • @all Saying Hello!
    by smoss 5/9/2011 1:51:02 AM

  • just cleared @smoss...
    by alblee 5/9/2011 1:51:45 AM

  • Hi @smoss
    by bo 5/9/2011 1:52:04 AM

  • @Nancy, did you get a chance to talk to your brother about RT?
    by bo 5/9/2011 1:54:34 AM

  • I had this question posed to me if anyone wants to take a stab at it. There may have been damage to the reactors and buildings from the quake and not the tsunami. What do you think would have been damaged by the quake and what information do we have available to sort that out?
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 1:55:25 AM

  • @bo I wasn't able to catch him today.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 1:55:36 AM

  • @Nancy Pipes and fittings
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 1:56:09 AM

  • @ALBLEE all we can do is cross our fingers that nothing will get too close to do anything major there.........I agree not amount of wind/rain/storm is very good there at the moment. Lets hope it just sticks to the track map and doesnt become a problem lol
    by Angie 5/9/2011 1:56:29 AM

  • Concrete integrity. The basements.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 1:56:34 AM

  • @Nancy no worries. Just checking.
    by bo 5/9/2011 1:57:39 AM

  • @radioguy I read an article and wish I could find it. Chubu electric thought their 2 units like FUKU's needed extensive retrofit to the roof to stop potential swaying of the upper building. They also stated the offset reactor well in the upper building was going to contribute to the sway. They opted to shut down those units citing too big a cost to retrofit.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 1:59:00 AM

  • @radioguy Do you think footings? wall bases?
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 1:59:21 AM

  • Second the motion on @radioguy and @Nancy, anything that hasn't been upgraded since 30-some years ago, like the basement, footings, bases. in the context, especially, of radio-aging effect on structural members and strength of materials. Yeah!
    by ALBLEE 5/9/2011 2:01:19 AM

  • In a 9.0 with that much lateral movement I think any perpendicular junctions would be subject to failure, not all or even most would go.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:01:43 AM

  • But if the ones that do also have water/steam/cooling pipes through them, expensive sprinkler.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:02:51 AM

  • The tsunami took out the backups. Colossal engineering blunder, but the plant could have had issues just from the quake. Look at all that did.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:05:26 AM

  • Trying to post something from the International Panel on Fissile Materials, but it says I'm spam. :(
    by smoss 5/9/2011 2:05:35 AM

  • Is there any data that shows how the EQ acted? I remember from the last big one in San Francisco there were mentions that there was a big jolt initially. By the time it made it about 100 miles away where I was it was like standing on a water bed. I hear quakes described in terms or lateral force, undualting etc. Is there any measurement that could tell us what kind of lateral force was going on?
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:05:46 AM

  • @smoss try posting it without the "http" it won't make an automatic link but should let it past
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:06:30 AM

  • @Nancy It's a measurement denoted as a 'gal', don't know what it stands for. Tepco did release the measurement for the basements, iirc.
    by marie rich 5/9/2011 2:08:18 AM

  • this was a 250km fault section that reverse slid 30 meters in 3 minutes. I'd think there would have to be GPS marker maps that could tell you the amounts per gps station.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:09:01 AM

  • @marie rich do you know what those measurements would be of in the basement? Movement?
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:10:48 AM

  • What do we have that would show any possible damage from the EQ? I know there are some digital globe images but think they are post tsunami but a few before the explosions
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:12:07 AM

  • Do we have anyone in either of the pages with actual geological experience in quakes?
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:13:12 AM

  • @Nancy yes, i believe it was theamt.' of movement in the basements. Isn't Jim a geologist?
    by marie rich 5/9/2011 2:13:49 AM

  • @Nancy Still saying I'm spam, even with the "http" removed. :(
    by smoss 5/9/2011 2:14:19 AM

  • @marie rich any idea where I might find the numbers or what they called the report? Now that you mention it I think your right, will need to ask Jim when he shows back up.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:16:07 AM

  • @smoss hmmm. try writing it so it can't see it as a web link ie: bobsplace (dot) com
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:16:58 AM

  • I found this yesterday. www.glgarcs.net About the subduction zone and this quake.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:17:36 AM

  • In the tepco press releases, a pretty long time ago. I (for some unk. reason) can't get into my hotmail inbox, or I think I could find it for you.
    by marie rich 5/9/2011 2:17:50 AM

  • Nancy, I'll look, too.
    by marie rich 5/9/2011 2:18:14 AM

  • For the magnitude 9.0 eastern Japan earthquake in 2011, the type of earthquake source fault is the reverse fault, the size of fault is about 450 km long and 200 km wide, the fault slippage is 20 to 30 meters (maximum), and the duration of main failure is about three minutes
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:18:33 AM

  • Hello All, I am a bit behind the news here and try to catch up?- does anyone want to give a summary? Did something happen last night?
    by inCalifornia 5/9/2011 2:20:09 AM

  • Fault movements may include a component of strike-slip and dip-slip.

    Apparently that was the case with this.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:20:28 AM

  • @all. I did hear back from one of the reporters. The work crews said yesterday's smoke show was all steam, the lights or lack of lights was making some of it look darker. I think a couple of people suggested this last night.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:22:09 AM

  • Chronological sort of your search history. Killer tool. Just scroll back through it.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:22:29 AM

  • I saved mine just before it started eating from the back end.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:22:57 AM

  • @all "Japan's utilities, however, are under pressure to deal with their accumulating spent fuel. According to Government and industry estimates, some nuclear power plant (NPP) storage pools will be filled up by the end of 2006." The International Panel on Fissile Materials projected that Fukushima I would be at capacity for storage of spent fuel in 2009. The 2004 figure they give for this NPP is 1,360. You can find this in Table 2.2 in the pdf document entitled "Japan's spent fuel and Plutonium Management Challenges"
    by smoss 5/9/2011 2:23:44 AM

  • Page history, not search, though in this they're often one and the same.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:23:57 AM

  • @inCalifornia They opened the air lock doors at 1 yesterday. There was a massive smoke show, well more of a steam show that went on for a few hours. Reactor 3 is over 300 degrees in one of the lower RPV readings and #4 is falling over
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:24:22 AM

  • @all Hurray I'm not spam! It will not allow any reference to the link however, refused to post if that's included.
    by smoss 5/9/2011 2:24:38 AM

  • @Nancy I thought that was plausible then, and still do enough to say if it's a lie, at least it's a believable one.
    by radioguy 5/9/2011 2:24:51 AM

  • @radioguy I have the auto history thing if you start typing in the URL bar it will show you anything similar in your history. Have not found the right combination to get the Chubu page I need to find yet.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 2:25:32 AM

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