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  • lol Rob.. I always told my guys on the shift where I was a shift supervisor.. just run and grab your hands around the element.. you can't run fast enough to save your life
    by dean 5/14/2011 9:59:00 PM

  • @Shadow Into the sea, where the submarine is stashed?
    by Rob in SF 5/14/2011 9:59:07 PM

  • @Christine, yes #4 on the right is leaning to the right, it was structurally damaged, and the SFP is in a state of collapse. They are trying to reinforce it.
    by wtm 5/14/2011 9:59:46 PM

  • doesn't surprise me elaine,, they probably didn't know or maybe were radioing in the numbers
    by dean 5/14/2011 9:59:54 PM

  • @dean

    www.asahi.com
    Tokyo Electric Power Co. Concealed data showing spikes in radiation levels at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in March, one day before a hydrogen explosion injured seven workers.

    The Asahi Shimbun obtained a 100-page internal TEPCO report containing minute-to-minute data on radiation levels at the plant as well as pressure and water levels inside the No. 3 reactor from March 11 to April 30
    by elainekirk 5/14/2011 10:00:35 PM

  • @Christine - Minneapolis it would depend on what collapses. The big worry is the spent fuel pool up on the work deck would collapse if the building lost more integrity. If just the top above the work floor collapsed and nothing else it would make working on the spent fuel pool much more complicated and could move fuel around. If the remaining structure below the work deck or the deck itself began to fall apart or totally collapsed it would spill all the fuel rods including the fresh set out of the reactor that is stored there, all over the ground. They do have a construction crew working on trying to shore up the building. We can see them working on the web cam sometimes but I don't know the details of what they are exactly doing to try to keep the building together.
    by Nancy 5/14/2011 10:01:19 PM

  • I want to see the Asahi Shimbun data.. really bad..
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:01:23 PM

  • @all, has anything sneaked out about the event that happened to #3 on Wednesday morning ???
    by wtm 5/14/2011 10:01:36 PM

  • @Dean Thanks!
    by LM 5/14/2011 10:01:36 PM

  • @dean will be working on that Monday. :-D
    by Nancy 5/14/2011 10:01:40 PM

  • yw LM
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:01:45 PM

  • @Nancy.. will go good on my write up.. now I'm running on analyzed events for intial pressure.. temp etc.
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:02:33 PM

  • Dean, LatleyHardlySeen........
    by Veenie 5/14/2011 10:03:09 PM

  • @nancy/elaine.. I'm trying to find that one presentation done by a college professor I think and they have video of FUKUSHIMA.. venting out the stacks before the tsunami hit
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:03:21 PM

  • Veen Veen the fukushima machine
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:03:47 PM

  • @dean I bet you plant botannica's right ?
    by Veenie 5/14/2011 10:04:22 PM

  • @dean I didn't know such video existed. That would be a great find to look at.
    by Nancy 5/14/2011 10:04:24 PM

  • yep..
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:04:43 PM

  • @dean oh venting BEFORE the tsunami?.......
    by Nancy 5/14/2011 10:04:49 PM

  • uh huh Veenie
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:04:52 PM

  • yes nancy
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:05:05 PM

  • hmm that video and the leaked data document could really shed some light.
    by Nancy 5/14/2011 10:05:47 PM

  • au.news.yahoo.com interesting history
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:06:49 PM

  • @dean : i remember i have seen a photo where you could see steam out of the venting towers before the tsunami, after the quake. might be from that video
    by Edano 5/14/2011 10:07:02 PM

  • @Nancy @wtm They have admitted that the site has sunk a foot, so I guess it's entirely possible that it might explain any sloping we're seeing. And the earthquakes and water are moving things along.
    by LM 5/14/2011 10:07:14 PM

  • @Dean,Nancy, that might actually be what was done on Wednesday, a massive dump on #3 during the hurricane that came through there. What ever it was, it filled the entire low areas around the plant with a brown low hanging smoke.
    by wtm 5/14/2011 10:07:49 PM

  • @LM, I hadn't heard that info.
    by wtm 5/14/2011 10:08:22 PM

  • T
    he risks also appear to have made it hard to hire for key positions. In 2008, Toshiba admitted it had illegally used six employees under the age of 18 as part of a series of inspections of nuclear power plants at Tokyo Electric and Tohoku Electric. One of those minors, then aged 17, had participated in an inspection of the Fukushima Daiichi No. 5 reactor, Tokyo Electric said then.

    The magnitude 9.0 quake struck on Friday afternoon of March 11 -- the most powerful in Japan's long history of them -- pushed workers at the Fukushima plant to the breaking point as injuries mounted and panic took hold.

    Hiroyuki Nishi, a subcontractor who had been moving scaffolding inside Reactor No. 3 when the quake hit, described a scene of chaos as a massive hook came crashing down next to him. "People were shouting 'Get out, get out!'" Nishi said. "Everyone was screaming."

    In the pandemonium, workers pleaded to be let out, knowing a tsunami was soon to come. But Tokyo Electric supervisors appealed for calm, saying each worker had to be tested first for radiation exposure. Eventually, the supervisors relented, threw open the doors to the plant and the contractors scrambled for high ground just ahead of the tsunami.

    After the wave receded, two employee were missing, apparently washed away while working on unit No. 4. Two contractors were treated for leg fractures and two others were treated for slight injuries. A ninth worker was being treated for a stroke.
    by dean edited by elainekirk 5/14/2011 10:08:32 PM

  • @dean I will look for video
    by elainekirk 5/14/2011 10:08:51 PM

  • @wtm I'll dig up where I read it and post again.
    by LM 5/14/2011 10:09:21 PM

  • right Edano.. trying to find it..
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:09:22 PM

  • my last post has me soooooooo upset with TEPCO ...
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:09:38 PM

  • @dean : i think it was a video made of a photo series.
    by Edano 5/14/2011 10:10:05 PM

  • @dean me too......proves the mentality ongoing
    by Veenie 5/14/2011 10:10:14 PM

  • In the chaos of the early response, workers did not notice when the diesel pumps at No. 2 ran out of fuel, allowing water levels to fall and fuel to become exposed and overheat. When the Fukushima plant suffered its second hydrogen blast in three days the following Monday, Tokyo electric executives only notified the prime minister's office an hour later. Seven workers had been injured in the explosion along with four soldiers.
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:10:16 PM

  • @Dean, they seem to be criminally negligent !!!!! Even before the events....
    by wtm 5/14/2011 10:10:52 PM

  • I should be able to show that the fuel damage was made or ongoing prior to the TEPCO exec's notifying the prime ministers office..
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:11:16 PM

  • @dean that account is maddening thanks for posting have you posted it on www.scribblelive.com
    by elainekirk 5/14/2011 10:11:20 PM

  • sure do wtm
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:11:25 PM

  • Hopefully, the TEPCO execs will face some jailtime over this, but I expect them to flee the country first.
    by wtm 5/14/2011 10:12:28 PM

  • @wtm I saw it in the new Fairewinds video from 5/13. www.fairewinds.com
    by LM 5/14/2011 10:12:53 PM

  • I haven't elaine.. go ahead and add it..
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:13:06 PM

  • Although U.S. nuclear plant operators were required to install "hardened" vent systems in the 1980s after the Three Mile Island incident, Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission rejected the need to require such systems in 1992, saying that should be left to the plant operators to decide
    by dean 5/14/2011 10:13:52 PM

  • @wtm "Hopefully, the TEPCO execs will face some jailtime over this, but I expect them to flee the country first." I still vote for seppuku.
    by Rob in SF 5/14/2011 10:17:14 PM

  • Given the fact that 2000 msvhr, the massive water level of 4+ meters in basement in #1, what's the likleyhood this is going to blow up ?
    by Veenie 5/14/2011 10:18:12 PM

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