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  • @dean, is there the potential for the corium to go into more of a "burn" where it discharges more smoke and radiation into the air?
    by Nancy 5/16/2011 12:14:00 AM

  • well for the SFP's.. what if no more water..
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:14:13 AM

  • for the canal's more likely nancy but maybe not for the reactors
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:14:53 AM

  • Without water couldn't fuel rods in SFP's ignite?
    by LM 5/16/2011 12:15:04 AM

  • the SFP's would be handled separately,, and may need some water, but,, what do we know about extent of burn or melted now,, that would have to play into decision for no water .. .
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:16:20 AM

  • just thinking out loud here
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:16:32 AM

  • @dean Marie suggested (can't remember the name of it, starts with a B) said it was a material they use to seal leaking ponds, it will sink and settle into the low spots and create a seal underwater. If they could inject that low enough could it plug some of those leaks? Would a boron slurry do anything?
    by Nancy 5/16/2011 12:16:51 AM

  • Radioactivity at intake of No.3 reactor rises
    Radioactive materials in the ocean near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant rose to 3,300 times the legal limit on Sunday.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company says it measured 200 becquerels of cesium-134 per cubic centimeter on Sunday morning near the water intake of the No. 3 reactor. The level was higher than on the previous day, when it was 2,300 times the legal limit.

    220 becquerels of cesium-137 per cubic centimeter was also detected. At 2,400 times the legal limit, the level exceeded the one found the day before.

    On Wednesday, highly radioactive water was found leaking into the ocean from a pit located near the water intake of the No. 3 reactor. 32,000 times the legal limit of cesium-134 was detected there.

    TEPCO also reported 2,100 times the legal limit of radioactive iodine was found in seawater near the water intake of the No. 2 reactor. Three points among four research areas along the shoreline also exceeded the legal limit. And 1.7 times the legal limit of Cesium was found close to drainage gates near the No. 5 and No. 6 reactors.

    TEPCO says the changes in readings are within a margin of day-to-day volatility. The company will continue to monitor radioactivity levels near the plant.

    Monday, May 16, 2011 05:31 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by estacion 5/16/2011 12:17:26 AM

  • I definately believe so nancy
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:17:35 AM

  • @all Good Morning...Good Evening...Hello
    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:25:14 AM

  • @smoss hello there
    by bo 5/16/2011 12:27:01 AM

  • @bo Hello
    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:28:56 AM

  • @all I would like to post a video from TBS (I routinely check their video archives just to see if any new visuals pop up). In the first 12 sec of this video they show the waves hitting Fukushima. I would like input on what potentially appears to be steam rising from between the 2 buildings framed in the shot. Following the train of thought that says things went bad quickly after the earthquake hit.
    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:33:14 AM

  • @all

    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:33:42 AM

  • @smoss - agree on the steam
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 12:35:25 AM

  • tippycam now clear -steam from 4
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 12:36:19 AM

  • I don't understand how 4 can still be steaming like that unless they're continuously pouring water in. It was like that for hours before the blackout too
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 12:38:45 AM

  • @smoss : it could be water running back to the ocean from higher points and hitting the turbine building from behind.
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:39:09 AM

  • @smoss : never seen that before !
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:39:33 AM

  • Steam from 2 as well
    by marie rich 5/16/2011 12:40:11 AM

  • @Edano Video capture and analysis are not my forte...I was wondering if that wasn't what I was seeing...some sort of back splashing effect
    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:41:38 AM

  • @smoss that is well spotted Dean & Nancy are looking for material like that
    by elainekirk 5/16/2011 12:42:45 AM

  • @smoss : i think back splashing, steam would be higher, wouldn't it ?
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:42:47 AM

  • funny, that there are still new videos after 2 months. how did they manage to get a camera to this point ? maybe it's an amateur video.
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:45:48 AM

  • good find smoss, we'll have to work on where the vent comes from between those buildings.. elaine could you have nancy capture those stills? ty
    OK dean


    by dean edited by elainekirk 5/16/2011 12:46:17 AM

  • perhaps steam vent from the turbine building
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:48:11 AM

  • @dean : can as well be water instead of vent.
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:48:13 AM

  • true Edano,,
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:48:49 AM

  • @Edano I honestly don't know, could be water, could be vent...Can't wait to have Nancy work her magic
    by smoss 5/16/2011 12:49:17 AM

  • @dean : watch, it sinks towards the ground, steam would rise up into the air.
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:49:44 AM

  • looking now Edano
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:50:05 AM

  • Closeups TBS cam
    by wtm 5/16/2011 12:51:42 AM

  • seems to quickly evaporate, also seems like alittle air movement to me,,, some venting from damage to some system in the steam turbine building or aux systems as a result of the EQ or maybe some pipe external to the building breaking
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:52:35 AM

  • I'm confused. What are people wanting stills of in that video?
    by Nancy 5/16/2011 12:52:50 AM

  • @nancy @smoss posted
    @all I would like to post a video from TBS (I routinely check their video archives just to see if any new visuals pop up). In the first 12 sec of this video they show the waves hitting Fukushima. I would like input on what potentially appears to be steam rising from between the 2 buildings framed in the shot. Following the train of thought that says things went bad quickly after the earthquake hit.
    by elainekirk 5/16/2011 12:53:36 AM

  • could be steam blown down by heavy wind or water splashing back hitting the turbine building from behind.
    by Edano 5/16/2011 12:53:41 AM

  • @Nancy cam on 3 & $ right now
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 12:53:57 AM

  • there appears to be something sticking out neae lelft corner - but it could be a crane
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 12:58:47 AM

  • Nancy.. was just wondering if the steam in that photo is coming from the side of the reactor or turbine building if we can tell..
    by dean 5/16/2011 12:59:17 AM

  • @dean looking at it now, grabbing some images
    by Nancy 5/16/2011 1:01:14 AM

  • ty
    by dean 5/16/2011 1:01:30 AM

  • NEWS ADVISORY: Gov't to keep to TEPCO's timetable for stabilizing nuke crisis: Kan (09:49)
    english.kyodonews.jp

    I don't know how.
    by estacion 5/16/2011 1:03:50 AM

  • what's cam man looking at??
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 1:04:11 AM

  • @all Timeline of events proposed by the Atomic Power Review Here from the data available now from TEPCO is a timeline of events at Fukushima Daiichi No. 1 plant, adding in historical data from our filed earlier reports:

    MARCH 11 2011
    14:46 Earthquake; automatic reactor protection action (full scram.)
    15:30 Tsunami hits plant
    15:42 Report of loss of all AC power
    16:36 Report of inability to inject water to core
    18:00 Water level is down to top of the fuel rods
    19:30 Water level at bottom of active fuel. Fuel temp rapidly approaching melt point

    MARCH 12 2011
    01:20 Report of rapid rise in primary containment pressure
    05:50 Begin injection of fresh water to core
    06:00 All fuel in core is in some state of damage or melt
    14:30 Began venting primary containment to atmosphere
    14:50 Stop fresh water injection to core
    15:36 Hydrogen explosion heavily damages reactor building
    20:00 Begin injection of sea water (borated) {one source says 20:20}

    atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
    by smoss 5/16/2011 1:04:45 AM

  • I think cam man thinks there's a fire in 1
    by UKVal 5/16/2011 1:06:06 AM

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