Japan Earthquake

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Ah it has been magicked away lovely lets all go to bed
by elainekirk 5/15/2011 8:39:23 PM

@elainekirk LOL :-)
by Nancy 5/15/2011 8:39:43 PM

@you : in other words: hamaoka is toast.
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:40:03 PM

@Edano, Yes if it gets inside the vessel
, but i recon even Tepco does not clean out saltwater from reactors using techs with vacuum cleaners :p
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:41:37 PM

@elainekirk OMG LOL! that's CLASSIC
by Panserbjorne9 5/15/2011 8:42:19 PM

@WolfDK Actually it was in the RPV and removed by vacumn in 1977 at Hunterson B in Scotland, CO2 plant . The salt water in the RPV was reported at Hamoaka in Japan. Iknow..Who'd a thought www.japantoday.com
by RBeaner 5/15/2011 8:42:47 PM

@elainekirk : it's a worlwide problem: due to the lack of long time storage the spent fuel is stored in the reactor sites. it is a very underestimated safety risk. the problem is shifted to the next generations. this all is crazy.
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:44:40 PM

@elainekirk @Nancy lmao!!
by Angie 5/15/2011 8:45:42 PM

@Nancy : well, fuku is gone! drowned ?
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:46:57 PM

think bubbles
Radiation from Hunterston contaminates soft drinks February 1997

In 1997 radiation from Hunterston nuclear power station may have found its way into Scottish fizzy drinks, following a leak. The Scottish Office has issued a Food Hazard Warning to environmental health officers.

Carbon dioxide in the power station had become contaminated during maintenance work at the reactor. Tankers visited the plant to top up supplies. But some of the radioactive carbon dioxide blow back into the tankers. The vehicles then went on to supply the gas for soft drinks manufacturers and breweries including the producers of Coca Cola and Irn Bru. Most of the main Scottish drinks companies were potentially affected. A telephone line was set up for members of the public and it had taken 700 calls within the first few hours.

"It is astonishing that our soft drinks can so easily be contaminated. Yet again the nuclear industry has shown a callous disregard for public safety. There are many strange things in our fizzy drinks, but we don't expect to find bubbles of gas which have come out of a nuclear reactor."
www.banthebomb.org
by elainekirk 5/15/2011 8:47:07 PM

@RBeaner, Unbelievable..! But removing it from the RPV right after shutdown ? i do not think so
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:47:09 PM

Plant? What plant? No plant here. Let's go fishing. Wait... Not fishing.
by Panserbjorne9 5/15/2011 8:48:49 PM

@Panserbjorne9, lol
exactly
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:49:37 PM

@Panserbjorne9 No its ok to fish outside the 30km area! Tepco spoke to fish and told them all to stay inside the area........so fishing no problem at all!
by Angie 5/15/2011 8:50:13 PM

@WolfDK The sc otland plant was CO2 gas cooled. Maybe not thee same levels of residual rad?? en.wikipedia.org On 3 December 1977 The Times reported[4] that seawater had entered the reactor through a modification of the secondary cooling system. The secondary cooling system uses fresh water to cool various items including the bearings of the gas circulators, which circulate the carbon dioxide (CO2) coolant through the reactor to the boilers. A small leak of CO2 through a seal had developed, and a bypass pipe was installed to remove the water contaminated with CO2 to the seawater cooling ponds. When maintenance work was carried out on the reactor and the pressure in the gas cooling system was reduced, sea water was able to flow back up this bypass pipe and into the reactor. The residual heat of the reactor was such that the seawater evaporated rapidly, leaving deposits of salt in the reactor around the gas circuit. It was estimated at the time that the reactor could be out of operation for a year, that the repairs could cost £14 million, and that electricity tariffs would have to rise by between 1 and 2 per cent. Extensive modelling work was performed in the Nuclear Power Company's (NPC) Whetstone, Leicestershire, fluid flow laboratories to determine where the salt would have been deposited, and the salt was successfully removed by technicians using vacuum cleaners and the plant returned to operation.
by RBeaner 5/15/2011 8:50:27 PM

@WolfDK : toast.
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:50:45 PM

@Angie LOL
by Panserbjorne9 5/15/2011 8:52:22 PM

@Edano I can't find a press release site from Chubu Electric Power Co for Hamoaka like there is for TEPCO, got one?
by RBeaner 5/15/2011 8:52:34 PM

@WolfDK well, they could use the putzmeister and connect it to a hoover with duct tape....
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:52:36 PM

I've just returned from a phone call to find total mayhem here! WTH? vacuum cleaners? toast? duct tape? radioactive Irn Bru??
by UKVal 5/15/2011 8:53:48 PM

@RBeaner, Amazing story, thanks for posting. The work must have been carried out after defueling the reactor thou, dont think the Japanese have had time to do that.
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:54:19 PM

nearly choked on the pitta bread I was munching...
by UKVal 5/15/2011 8:54:45 PM

@UKVal Look at the webcam shot posted by Nancy. The Tepco tarp turned out to be Invisibility Cloaks a la Harry Potter
by Panserbjorne9 5/15/2011 8:55:09 PM

@WolfDK Yeah, Stranger than Fiction. At Hamoka, they changed to a different shutdown cooling system and shutdown regular. They said they would have to desalinate the plant later.
by RBeaner 5/15/2011 8:55:58 PM

I wouldn't put anything past TEPCO - we saw the nice clean up pics yesterday - all wokers with their mops & brooms. Vacuums at the ready gang ...quick march....
by UKVal 5/15/2011 8:56:41 PM

@RBeaner, Sounds more reasonable
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:57:01 PM

Yeh i see stacks on the TBS cam :)
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:57:35 PM

@RBeaner : www.chuden.co.jp but nothing from today.
by Edano 5/15/2011 8:57:55 PM

@Panserbjorne9 .. and now invisibility cloaks too? Where's the hello kitty tent gone?
by UKVal 5/15/2011 8:58:15 PM

Sunday, May 15, 2011
#Fukushima I Reactor 3: TEPCO Pouring Boric Acid to Prevent Recriticality
Yomiuri Shinbun (10:02PM JST 5/15/2011) translate.google.com
by Majj 5/15/2011 8:58:29 PM

@UKVal, the spell have expired
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 8:58:51 PM

@elainekirk that is just insane. If this was even a possible scenario why were they not using dedicated trucks for the non-food deliveries. We have a local dairy depot. They are just crazy about cleanliness and the trucks can only haul milk. I would have hoped other food wold get a similar treatment.
by Nancy 5/15/2011 8:59:38 PM

Actually looks beautiful at this moment, with the towers emerging through the dense ground-hugging cloud : www.youtube.com
by Ian 5/15/2011 9:02:59 PM

@Nancy that was in the "dark ages" of 1977, and my goodness, in Scotland for gods sake:)
by RBeaner 5/15/2011 9:03:17 PM

@Ian, yeah and a plume of steam rising up through the fog (center ceft - TBS cam)
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 9:04:22 PM

Correction 2 plumes, also
one at unit #4
by WolfDK 5/15/2011 9:05:20 PM

@Nancy ah.. the Scots are a tough lot & Irn Bru benefits from extra ingredients...
by UKVal edited by elainekirk 5/15/2011 9:05:21 PM

@nancy I think it is a case of corporations being regulated on public safety matters being a re-active process rather than a preventative one that applies to all nations imho none seem to adopt prevention over reaction
by elainekirk 5/15/2011 9:05:25 PM

Hi a
by LM 5/15/2011 9:06:36 PM

LOL! Hi all! Lots of smoking this lovely morn.
by LM 5/15/2011 9:07:18 PM

Two Other Reactors Suffer Serious Damage . TOKYO—Substantial damage to the fuel cores at two additional reactors of Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex has taken place, operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday, further complicating the already daunting task of bringing them to a safe shutdown while avoiding the release of high levels of radioactivity. The revelation followed an acknowledgment on Thursday that a similar meltdown of the core took place at unit No. 1. online.wsj.com
by Majj 5/15/2011 9:07:31 PM