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425C? Are you reading the data? That is lower torus stuff, if it was a temp reading it would be one of the lowest as it is at the bottom. That is secondary containment , The darn thing would be little bit of shredded metal of those readings were correct. Rad figures I would think, Or water pressure, I suspect a major mistranslation. Never trust Google translate for scientific data. They often misplace the decimal point.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:29:45 PM

@hudebnik email me and I can send you the page. I need to ask Dean if he wants is live before the site launch or not.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 5:30:47 PM

@hudebnik Thanks! Curious that there is no temp for SFP in 1....
by LM 5/22/2011 5:32:31 PM

The chart also goes off the chart on many places, Bad instruments? www.tepco.co.jp
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:35:01 PM

Or can water go from 0 to over 425 C in one hour? 3/30.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:36:51 PM

@hudebnik We know #2 is pretty hot with the sensor working right or not. There is plenty of other information about it being a mess.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 5:37:39 PM

@hudebnik Sounds like you have it covered but I posted a series of 4 captures at the Tsunami Forum - spaced about 10 mins apart - that show each distinct color shift . Pink, blue, greenish and golden. Deb probably has it all in the vids, but it's a pretty sequence in any case! :) www.tsunamioftears.com
by ms in la 5/22/2011 5:38:41 PM

@Ralph - well that charts are Tepco's own, the 425C sensor is according to our expert translators (not Google) "D/W HVH return temperature" so in the drywell near the control rods at a guess.
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:40:36 PM

If there is a pile down there, those temp could certainly be correct, all the water down there tells me otherwise though. If TEPCO is telling the truth about that.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:42:32 PM

I reckon corium is blobbing down through holes around where the control rods used to be.
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:43:29 PM

Maybe those temps are showing when the pile is covered, or uncovered by the water. I sure hope that is not the case.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:43:53 PM

@hudebnik YW. Looking at the still versions, it appears it wasn't until the 'green' phase where we see that glowing circular light orb around the center of the frame that's was so evident in deb's video.
by ms in la 5/22/2011 5:43:56 PM

@ms - the circular light is visible in the pink ones too, tho we didn't manage to find a video of it (yet)
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:45:04 PM

It could explain the sudden shift of focus to #2. Every other day they're trying to catch up with some new event by announcing some bogus plan that is unlikely to be realized.
by LM 5/22/2011 5:45:06 PM

Naw, there is no way the temps could fall below 0. It is an instrument malfunction.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:45:11 PM

Well, If the LN2 injection was working, the temps could fall below 0. I stand corrected :-)
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:46:11 PM

I feel like I'm watching 'The Three Stooges'...Tepco style.
by LM 5/22/2011 5:47:02 PM

TEPCO Boss does the work of three men! Unfortunately they are Larry, Curly , and Moe.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:48:21 PM

@LM - as I said the other day, nothing that Tepco is attempting has ever been tried, practised or even simulated before. It's rocket science stuff, tho unfortunately without the rocket scientists.
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:49:16 PM

Tippycam watchers there is a mention and pics of a blue glow from 4 on NuclearLeals matome.naver.jp
by elainekirk 5/22/2011 5:49:36 PM

@Nancy Oh sorry... I didn't see your comment. Delete mine if you want the live link off of here.
by radioguy 5/22/2011 5:50:46 PM

@hudebnik I agree completely. They need qualified nuclear engineers without a vested monetary interest in there making informed decisions....informed being the operative word!
by LM 5/22/2011 5:51:32 PM

@hudebnik This entire incident, from Earthquake, Tsunami, to explosions, has left the world's smartest people scratching their heads. Duh, never expected that!
by deb 5/22/2011 5:52:33 PM

Yeah, like lawyer send other lawyers to jail, Not gonna happen, we all went to the same schools and know the same people and know where are jobs come from.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:52:50 PM

@elainekirk You can see that blue glow now..not sure if it's just the effect of the spotlights though.
by LM 5/22/2011 5:54:15 PM

Like the FAA in the US, we promote aviation, and also regulate it. Sure...
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:54:32 PM

@deb - as Homer Simpson put it (sitting at a control room desk with ALL the annunciators lit up) - "Who ever thought a nuclear reactor could be so complicated?"
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:56:23 PM

I read a reference to an Air France flight that went down a few years ago. All it took to solve the problem was a better heater on the pitot tube which measured airspeed. Simple, But the new reactor designs? They are even questioning the designs of the secondary confinement building structure.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 5:58:50 PM

@radioguy Just need to double check with Dean if it is ready for public consumption yet. I think so but wanted to make sure. He has given the direct link to a few people for an initial review. If you catch up with him before I do check and see, if he says go, it can get pinned and we can put a link into the site.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 5:59:04 PM

@Ralph Unger You read the article about the Westinghouse design.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 5:59:32 PM

@elaine - interesting that others have noticed a blue glow. If something is happening in #4 SFP that could be Cherenkov radiation.
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 5:59:35 PM