Japan Earthquake

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@Rob in SF Exactly. But if you read between the li[n]es you can easily pin point a lot of conflicting official information. I'm not saying they lie, I don't think they do, but they use the English language in a very smart way to disguise the true meaning of their official statements.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:30:55 PM

@elainekirk They'll just make the signs in English and all the Mongolians will think it's a iPad storage facility.
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:31:01 PM

@Elaine -I plan to move across the border as soon as I can & before I need a passport!!
hurry will be great to have you up here :)
by UKVal edited by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:31:10 PM

@Rob in SF Eventually, but times are changing. ;)
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:32:13 PM

I wonder if the money governments spent on nuclear through grants etc etc would actually be better left in the taxpayers pocket , Most leccy is lost en route so local or home based energy sourcing is surely the way forward
by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:32:17 PM

@Elainekirk- I beg to differ on the assumption that Mongolia is a big producer of Uranium. "Kazakhstan produces the largest share of uranium from mines (33% of world supply from mines), followed by Canada (18%) and Australia (11%). " www.world-nuclear.org
by Lethbridgean 5/23/2011 9:33:56 PM

wow, if it wasn't so sad i would laugh my ass off. nuclear waste to mongolia. what a joke !
by Edano 5/23/2011 9:34:37 PM

@elainekirk If I'd think Portuguese tax payers' pockets I'd definitely say NO. But it's not safe in our Government's pocket either.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:34:52 PM

@Elaine -BTW - I'll probalby need the zimmer frame 1st but Scotland did plan to go non nuke back in the 80's - (another 2 decades d'you reckon?
hey Alex has launched a suggestions for national anthem campaign and snp have a majority plus whitehall are really pissing snp off re the north sea money so could happen a lot sooner than we think
by UKVal edited by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:35:28 PM

@leth thanks for update I was relying on just one source I didnt check
by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:35:52 PM

The Fuel Cycle.

www.siiaonline.org
by Rob in SF via Siiaonline.org 5/23/2011 9:35:56 PM

@UKVal We're still nuke free in Portugal and we're doing fine, energy wise. It's not that hard.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:36:17 PM

www.economywatch.com Mongolia's main exports.
by Lethbridgean 5/23/2011 9:36:18 PM

@elainekirk agree about the local production -it's the only way to go
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:36:59 PM

@Pedro Jesus wow & warmer too.. If I didn't love Scotland so much I'd be tempted
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:37:41 PM

@elainekirk - Its not to say that it won't be a major exporter in the future as it does have a huge untapped mineral base. Just not developed now.
by Lethbridgean 5/23/2011 9:37:50 PM

@Lethbridgean shhh! we don't want them to know thaat! God knows there's enough of the stuff being mined already
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:38:48 PM

@UKVal I don't blame you. I fell in love with Scotland back in '96. But I love it here as well.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:38:59 PM

Mongolia is destined to become one big strip mine...
www.cnn.com
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:39:43 PM

There are 2 established uranium mines in West Kalimantan and since 1991, Indonesia has been able to fabricate nuclear fuel elements from its domestic uranium ores. Indonesia is the most advanced ASEAN country in implementing the nuclear fuel cycle.
www.siiaonline.org
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:41:39 PM

@Pedro Jesus my sister was trying to persuade me to go halves with her to buy a hippy holiday business in Portugal
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:43:04 PM

@UKVal Just looked in on cam in full screen mode and you can still make out activity in the 2 spots that were glowing orange before light this morning. Obviously intense color is not there now but it's worth keeping an eye on. Smoke is still coming from both locations...
by LM 5/23/2011 9:43:45 PM

@UKVal Might work, it depends on the place you're aiming at. I live in the most tourist orientated city in Portugal so I could provide some advice if you need.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:44:47 PM

@Pedro Jesus "we're doing fine, energy wise" Certainly not economy-wise... en.wikipedia.org(economics)
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:45:07 PM

@Pedro Jesus I've only been to Lisbon. Loved it.
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:45:45 PM

@Pedro Jesus thanks. This place was quite remote -had a few cabins/ small houses & communal facilities. I'd love to live there but less certain we could make a living from it
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:47:08 PM

@LM thanks - I'll try to keep watching. I should be marking student papers really...
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:48:30 PM

Here is one side of the debate on the issue of the German (dis)solution to storage: www.endlager-gorleben.de and there is the other: de.wikipedia.org .
by Peter Melzer 5/23/2011 9:49:37 PM

@UKVal I'll be in and out as well. I'll let you know if I see anything meaningful!
by LM 5/23/2011 9:50:34 PM

@Rob in SF Not at all. There's a conspiracy theory running around that the IMF's number one's sex scandal might have been orchestrated by Portuguese secret intelligence. One of the probable follow ups is Portuguese. Anyway, we're officially in recession since last trimester. Not good at all. But we're still in the forefront of renewable (sustainable) energy sources. The US and Europe have some ongoing projects around here.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 9:53:29 PM

@Pedro Jesus "orchestrated by Portuguese secret intelligence" That would be awesome.
by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 9:54:41 PM

@Peter Melzer : recent big problems (increased leukemaia rate) in another waste disposal: en.wikipedia.org the problem is, they will never get the sh.. out of there again.
by Edano 5/23/2011 9:55:28 PM

Perhaps this has been up, TEPCO claims it was not the nuke that did in #1: english.kyodonews.jp
by bo edited by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:57:34 PM

Hi @all - back for a moment. @pedro - which are these fusion power plants you mention as under construction? As far as I'm aware nobody has managed to make fusion reactors work yet.
by hudebnik 5/23/2011 9:57:41 PM

France will get to host the project to build a 10bn-euro (£6.6bn) nuclear fusion reactor, in the face of strong competition from Japan news.bbc.co.uk - think thery're still trying to make it work!
by UKVal 5/23/2011 9:59:15 PM

@bo they cannot admit to quake damage because they failed to upgrade to the new 2006 guidelines therefore they cannot be believed imho
by elainekirk 5/23/2011 9:59:58 PM

@hudebnik I will have to research that. I have an article or two on my New Scientist magazines (still on archive) talking about them. I will post them tomorrow. I have to go for now. But it is working, trust me.
by Pedro Jesus 5/23/2011 10:00:23 PM

Construction of the facility began in 2007 and first plasma is expected in 2018.[6] When ITER becomes operational it will surpass the Joint European Torus which is the current largest magnetic confinement plasma physics experiment in use. The first commercial demonstration fusion power plant named DEMO is proposed to follow on the research of ITER to bring fusion energy to the commercial markets. en.wikipedia.org
by UKVal 5/23/2011 10:01:17 PM

@Pedro Jesus : there are several parties (companies and scientists) claiming to get it working, but none of them has prooved it yet.
by Edano 5/23/2011 10:01:49 PM