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  • @Bobby I know. But they did an extra decision here, www.ctbto.org , where they say that "The CTBTO contributes to this effort by providing information on the detection of radioactive isotopes from its worldwide monitoring network. "
    by Mona 5/30/2011 5:39:25 PM

  • @Bobby1 I know people in Stockholm. If something out of the ordinary happens in Sweden I'll know about it. My upstairs neighbour's daughter lives there and they're always in touch.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 5:40:06 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus Thanks. I think Europe is at risk as much as North America is.
    by Bobby1 5/30/2011 5:43:23 PM

  • @Mona If you find something from them, please let us know.
    by Bobby1 5/30/2011 5:45:08 PM

  • @Bobby I will. Do you think it differs if you go to USA or stay in Europe?
    by Mona 5/30/2011 5:46:41 PM

  • 5/31/2011 No. 1 reactor pressure vessel likely damaged immediately after quake

    TOKYO (Kyodo) --The pressure vessel housing nuclear fuel at the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima No. 1 power plant or its accessory piping is likely to have been partially damaged immediately after the March 11 earthquake, possibly allowing steam to leak out to the containment vessel encasing it, according to data made public by its operator. mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 5:47:58 PM

  • 5/31/2011 Gov't to scrap upper limit of radiation exposure for workers at Fukushima plant

    The government has decided to abolish the upper cap of radiation exposure for workers at the disaster-crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, drawing concern from experts, it has been learned. mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 5:49:50 PM

  • 5/31/2011 Fukushima forestry industry at risk of collapse due to ongoing nuclear crisis

    Forestry cooperatives that oversee woodlands in areas designated as no-entry zones and planned evacuation zones due to high levels of radiation from the ongoing nuclear crisis in Fukushima Prefecture are in danger of collapse, it has emerged. mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 5:52:48 PM

  • @Mona It's not clear, Europe might be a month or two behind the US in time.
    by Bobby1 5/30/2011 5:52:58 PM

  • @Bobby1 Absolutely. There have were some traces of unusual radioactivity traced in Sweden, Finland, western Russia and northern England so far, although in very small amounts not considered of danger to the public. And that was over a month ago, if I can remember straight. It's not unheard of since Spain is known to have had problems at their NPPs every once in a while.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 5:53:44 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus They always say no danger to the public. It's possible that some of the governments have published radiation data on their websites. I've seen the UK one (lost the link though).
    by Bobby1 5/30/2011 5:56:24 PM

  • (have been)
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 5:57:00 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 Interesting, it's in english and I still don't know what it means. mdn.mainichi.jp If you can get 250 mSv this year, how can you be limited to 100 mSv in 5 years?
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 5:57:06 PM

  • @RBeaner 250mSv is an emergency exposure limit. It doesn't apply to normal working conditions. 100mSv over 5 years is the exposure under normal working conditions and before Fukushima it used to be Japan's upper limit under emergency conditions. They had to extend the limit to 250mSv, which is still way under the international upper limit of 1000mSv. So, they are still on the safe area in Japan.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 5:59:54 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus but the article says the 5 yr 100 mSv limit is still in effect
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:04:31 PM



  • Nuclear Radiation May Affect Gender of Babies
    Researchers from the Helmholtz Zentrum München have discovered that nuclear radiation exposure either causes a higher rate of male births or a decreased rate of female births.
    Scherb and Voigt studied those who live near nuclear facilities, as well as areas affected by radiation from the atomic bomb testing before the Partial Test Ban Treaty in 1963 and the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. What they found was that the ratio of male to female births was biased in favor of male births by a noticeable amount.
    In fact, they found that there was an increase in male births over female births in the U.S. and Europe from 1964 to 1975, which occurred immediately after the globally dispersed atmospheric atomic bomb test fallout prior to the ban in 1963. They also found a heightened amount of male births over female births in Europe in 1987, one year after the Chernobyl disaster. The U.S., which was not affected by the nuclear disaster, did not experience the same shift in male-dominated births.
    In addition, the study found that those living within 22 miles of nuclear facilities in Germany and Switzerland had an increased birth rate of male babies over female babies.
    Researchers believe these results were caused by ionizing radiation from nuclear activity, which possesses mutagenic characteristics and can negatively affect reproduction. It is believed that nuclear radiation causes men to "father more sons while mothers give birth to more girls." The researchers looked at the amount of paternal and maternal exposure and concluded that it may have effects on sex odds, but they're not sure if it increased the number of male births or decreased the number of female births. They also looked at sex odds with respect to normal pregnancy and adverse pregnancy outcomes in regards to maternal exposure and paternal exposure.
    Full story here:
    www.dailytech.com
    by joniver 5/30/2011 6:04:34 PM

  • @RBeaner Of course it is, for normal working conditions. What the Japanese Government changed was the upper yearly limit for emergency working conditions. The article is probably mixing up the two different limits (it has become a trend).
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 6:06:37 PM

  • @joniver Just anecdotal "evidence". I worked nuclear from ~88 -2001, I have two kids born 1994 1nd 1996, both girls. LOL
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:08:15 PM

  • @RBeaner LOL
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 6:08:35 PM

  • @UKVal you out there?
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:09:26 PM

  • @RBeaner The article didn't state zero females were born.
    by joniver 5/30/2011 6:11:57 PM

  • Fukushima Risks Chernobyl ‘Dead Zone’
    www.bloomberg.com
    "Radioactive soil in pockets of areas near Japan’s crippled nuclear plant have reached the same level as Chernobyl, where a “dead zone” remains 25 years after the reactor in the former Soviet Union exploded.
    Soil samples in areas outside the 20-kilometer (12 miles) exclusion zone around the Fukushima plant measured more than 1.48 million becquerels a square meter, the standard used for evacuating residents after the Chernobyl accident, Tomio Kawata, a fellow at the Nuclear Waste Management Organization of Japan, said in a research report published May 24 and given to the government.
    Radiation from the plant has spread over 600 square kilometers (230 square miles), according to the report.'
    by Reed 5/30/2011 6:13:49 PM

  • @RBeaner Hi yes I am -but on & off the site
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:14:01 PM

  • @Bobby1 The only UK info I've seen was on the Environment Protection Agency website. They were originally publishing a weekly report post Fuku then changed to monthly
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:15:45 PM

  • @UKVal Regarding a cross post you did at 0830 EDT 5.25 hrs ago, bad stuff in there, we shouldn't have it here, please ask mod to remove if you concur
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:16:32 PM

  • @you or it should be edited to remove violent reference
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:17:23 PM

  • @UKVal My comment re that post doesn't concern the nature of the content, but there are issues of data protection concerning the collection, storage and publication of personal data. Best edit name and addy out unless express permission for publication here has been granted. Great work with your letter by the way - powerful and persuasive.
    by es 5/30/2011 6:22:00 PM

  • @joniver just an anecdote with a laugh. 2 opposing studies in UK www.thelancet.com(00)04748-6/fulltext says no relationship and www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov says more boys! Whats a sonless father to do??
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:23:13 PM

  • @es ty for your comments re letter. The email address given was part of the letter & not separate & I believe was meant to be published. If you look at the address I think you'll see it's dedicated to the topic.
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:24:43 PM

  • Tuesday, May 31, 2011

    Radiation zone farmer grubs his way to survival
    TAMURA, Fukushima Pref. — Masanao Usami tosses over a container the size of a wine case and carefully spreads the contents that fall out, including tree bark, dead leaves and warm soil. search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 6:24:56 PM

  • @RBeaner
    Move to Fukushima:)
    by joniver 5/30/2011 6:26:10 PM

  • @RBeaner Those studies are always bound by the limitations of the variables they can isolate. It's impossible to isolate all the variables that can affect this or that effect so there can always be disparate results. Only by comparing and analysing thousands of different studies on the same subject over the years can we draw a more truthful and consistent conclusion.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 6:26:43 PM

  • @ Elaine -I agree with yr edit - I found that comment disturbing too but think it was rhetorical
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:26:56 PM

  • @UKVal Thanks, I really had a problem with the one word!
    by RBeaner 5/30/2011 6:27:12 PM

  • Tuesday, May 31, 2011
    Disaster volunteers find plenty to do in Fukushima search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 6:27:49 PM

  • @rbeaner@ukval I went to find the post before it was said that the bad stuff was personal data on the basis that I was looking for bad I edited 'bombing ' with 'put pressure on' that was the only change I made and may be better left in it's modded state if you agree
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 6:28:01 PM

  • @RBeaner so did I - but as I said below I don't think it was meant to be seen as a call to violence given what he goees on to say
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:28:24 PM

  • @elainekirk happy with that
    by UKVal 5/30/2011 6:28:53 PM

  • @RBeaner Violence??? Sorry I don't understand. . I post a Bloomberg and mainichi articles .
    by Majj 5/30/2011 6:29:35 PM

  • Radioactive soil in pockets of areas near Japan’s crippled nuclear plant have reached the same level as Chernobyl, where a “dead zone” remains 25 years after the reactor in the former Soviet Union exploded www.bloomberg.com
    by Majj 5/30/2011 6:29:38 PM

  • Gov't to scrap upper limit of radiation exposure for workers at Fukushima plant

    The government has decided to abolish the upper cap of radiation exposure for workers at the disaster-crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, drawing concern from experts, it has been learned.

    The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare decided to lift the yearly 50-millisievert maximum permissible amount of radiation exposure for workers at the troubled Fukushima plant in the face of the prolonged restoration work at the facility. mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Majj 5/30/2011 6:29:39 PM

  • @Reed Thanks for putting this link. I put few minutes ago but got stuck in mud
    by Majj 5/30/2011 6:29:40 PM

  • Tuesday, May 31, 2011

    Evacuees long for hometowns

    SHIRAKAWA, Fukushima Pref. — Land minister Akihiro Ohata in early May said the government will construct temporary housing for all March 11 evacuees in time for the Bon holidays in mid-August. But speaking to those already living in such accomodations in Fukushima Prefecture makes it clear such housing units are not homes, and rebuilding their lives will take more than providing a roof over their heads. search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 6:30:23 PM

  • @majj so sorry how long did the gremlins have you? I was out and came back and went to find (see few mins ago) so only just checked mod list
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 6:31:08 PM

  • Tuesday, May 31, 2011

    April water, cigarette imports soared search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/30/2011 6:32:27 PM

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