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@fitter : they have proved in the past that their plans are bs. they now detected 54 leaks. i bet they have about 54k leaks.

From the Article Below ; " Having seen the difficulties the cities of Koriyama and Date have experienced in finding places to dump removed soil, Otama, roughly 60 km from the crippled nuclear plant, dug holes to dispose of tainted dirt and covered them over. Where the radioactivity goes from there is anyone's guess......"

@Angie good nite

@es i agree 100%

@Edano Thats not a completely true statement... and I am not sure how much actual experience you have in working in an industrial enviroment.... they have put out info that has worked and is working... but it is not posted here... but is posted elsewere... also the problem with planning and schedules is that there are many varables that infulence needed changes... thats why we make "schedules" and why most documents in my business are controlled with "rev" numbers... there are very few days in my field that we do/or complete what is scheduled for the day.... not because we lacking in abilities, but the processes of large plants have many constant changes... so you therefore must adapt to the changes... not to forget that there is no game book on this..... but the original post was that there is a plan, it seens to adress the issues... I am sure it will change... and last but not least ... then please tell me What would your plan be.... it easy to condem... so replace it with a solution bbl gotta get stuff done STAR

Perhaps the leadership at Tepco and in government is slow to realize that this problem has already grown too big to be handled in the quiet fashion they are accustomed to. The government must exert much stronger pressure on the company to contain the releases of radioactive material and should offer concomitant assistance in providing the means. Tepco clearly appears overwhelmed by the challenges. Even if elements in the company wanted to quietly make all radioactive water disappear in the big ocean, this would not go unnoticed. Hence, they must at least give containment a good shot. Only this task becomes more and more difficult every day. So what would I do? I would try to plug the leaks as I find them (they seem to do that, except the outflow at the intake, which I do not understand why they let that continue). Intermittent storage must be found for the radioactive water. They fill buildings with it (that was kind of what dean proposed). Much more capacity must be created for this purpose. I thought of lined ponds and do not understand, why they do not pursue this option. Then, the radioactive water must be decontaminated. Setting up appropriate filters, even temporary systems, seems to be excruciatingly slow, and I do not understand what holds the process up. The next thing to do is the closure of the cooling cycles for pools and reactor. If I recall correctly, cooling must be provided for at least a year. We cannot accomplish this with on open system. How many more thousands of tons of radioactive water do we wish to create? The water must be decontaminated and recirculated to contain this problem. On top of the pressing water management problems, the site needs to be cleaned up and the ruins have to stabilized. The whole project constitutes a super cleanup challenge of gigantic proportion, and the response must be adequately scaled. More urgency is definitely needed in execution and the government of Japan should press for it.

.....and, I did not even touch on the airborne emissions yet! They need to devise a way to catch the steam that we see every day and scrub it!

it is clear, that one company can not handle crisis of this magnitude. it time for GoJ to get more involved in crisis managment. to give more manpower, scientist, equipment...

@Peter -- Very much so, corium in the DW. Potential problems if they don't get a handle on water leaks.

@Peter Melzer thank you for the "S" and I am very serious... (still can't spell) but would gladly assist you in putting togther "bugdet manhours and delivery possiblities" related to some of the items/solutions you describe should you chose to want to compile a working scope. As you mentioned Dean had made one of the suggestions that they are or have tried, but in real life "it needs adjusted" does not make Deans suggestion wrong or non-funcional.. and as he suggested it is a short term, such functions usually are in stages and priorities.. again I am serious with my offer to (and Leight should be able to put in his experience, ) just by doing the simplist plan will (on avaliblity and manhours) will produce the fesability factor.. thanks again for the S

@fitter Situation houseoffoust.com

and from time to time it shows temps below 0.

At stricken Japanese nuclear plant, water is the biggest worry
TOKYO — At the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, nothing is more problematic right now than the contaminated water that covers the basement floors, leaks into the environment and endangers any worker who goes near it.

After dousing its reactors for 21 / 2 months in jury-rigged cooling efforts following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, the Tokyo Electric Power Co. must deal with the severe side-effects of that strategy by removing at least 15 million gallons of water — enough to fill the first five floors of the Empire State Building.
www.washingtonpost.com

@Edano , the coria in the three reactors can be in so many places. I am still pondering the idea of a corium tomograph like this en.wikipedia.org only larger. The basemat is 7 meters thick. Is it possible to burn through such a thick layer of concrete at this time?

@Edano , then they must continue to pure all this water to slow the process.

@Panserbjorne9 , a cylinder like this goes off like a bomb. I am glad that no people were standing nearby.

@Edano , have we seen signatures of these specific isotopes yet?

@Peter Melzer : yes, it was several weeks (one or two) ago, that we discussed readings for exactly these special isotopes. it was exactly like reading from a school book.

@Edano , but can we distinguish between the burn of concrete of the primary containment and that of basemat concrete? How can one tell where the isotopes stem from? Could one estimate from the amounts how much basemat has been burned?