Japan Earthquake

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Japan's Central Union of Agricultural Cooperatives requested that the government buy all disaster-affected farmland and have the farmers buy back the cultivatable land after the government restores it.
www3.nhk.or.jp
The union, known as JA, submitted the request concerning agricultural recovery in the devastated area to the government on Thursday.
The statement says the government should temporarily take all affected farmland. It also says the government should restore the land so that the farmers can buy back the cultivatable areas in future.
It asks the government to set up a new institution which will adjust ownership of the land and consolidate it so that farmers can efficiently cultivate it.
The executive director of JA, Shigeo Fuji, said in a news conference that the government should outline its policy as soon as possible since farmers are anxious about their future.
by Reed 6/10/2011 6:23:12 AM

www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com
by FradyKat 6/10/2011 6:24:55 AM

www.permaculture.co.uk
by FradyKat 6/10/2011 6:25:20 AM

oregonstate.edu
by FradyKat 6/10/2011 6:25:45 AM

@Reed it gives hope that we will eventually get some accurate information.
by trh 6/10/2011 6:56:22 AM

Japan adds four new areas to radiation threats
edition.cnn.com
by trh 6/10/2011 7:00:18 AM

Children in Fukushima to be given dosimeters

A city 60 kilometers away from the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has decided to distribute dosimeters to all kindergarteners and school children to monitor their radiation exposure.

Voices of parents expressing concern about their children's health due to the radioactive contamination are growing louder.

www3.nhk.or.jp sorry if its been posted I only just saw it.............Good that they are doing something......sad that it has come to this.
by Angie 6/10/2011 7:16:48 AM

@Angie yes it sad. i read it yesterday
by trh 6/10/2011 7:18:22 AM

@trh I have been a little out of it for a few days..........I couldnt imagine my children going through that. My heart goes out the them and their parents.
by Angie 6/10/2011 7:23:46 AM

@Angie OMG, you post "news" from like 2004 ))....
Here is one concerning the 28th of this month
Tokyo Riot Squad to Safeguard #Tepco Meeting - Bloomberg goo.gl
by Veenie 6/10/2011 7:34:34 AM

@Veenie lol listen ratbag I hadnt seen it! so :P! And I think they just might need the riot squad there..........may be a little over kill but you just never know!
by Angie 6/10/2011 7:42:51 AM

@Reed re corium melting through the concrete basement, apparently there has been research into that:
mitnse.com
If I read this correctly, without water it would be say 3mm per minute (=180mm per hour), with water 5-7% of that = for convenience say 1 cm per hour. If the concrete basement is 3m thick that would mean 300 hours for melting through.

If this is really describing what happens at Fukushima it might already have melted through.
But this is not a controlled test situation, it is guesswork really, like what melted, how much, where did it go.
by nls 6/10/2011 7:43:27 AM

@nls Hi nls! Good to see you. I remember reading that MIT report late in March, and it led me to the Sandia Labs studies of corium behavior. I also have been following Physicsforum and ars technica discussions on the corium issue, and from what I can determine, the experts seem to think that the heat sink of the basemat is sufficient to keep the corium crusted and contained. Let us hope that that is the case. If you find any other information on the subject, please let me know. TYVM
by Reed 6/10/2011 8:02:51 AM

@Reed hi Reed, thanks for the pointers - indeed at ars technica they are discussing this too and that is where this diagram is from:
secure.wikimedia.org
It is scary stuff. I join you in hoping the corium stays inside.
by nls 6/10/2011 8:24:51 AM

@nls Thanks for the reactor diagrams. Here's to hoping that information, not corium, flows freely! :)
by Reed 6/10/2011 8:30:29 AM

NUCLEAR CRISIS: HOW IT HAPPENED / Hydrogen blasts at plant surprised experts
www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Reed 6/10/2011 8:53:28 AM

mitnse.files.wordpress.com
Nuclear Plant Siting and Earthquake Risk
mitnse.com
In the wake of the Fukushima crisis, there has been much discussion of how to site future nuclear plants in locations that are relatively less vulnerable to earthquakes. Although we offer no opinions or recommendations on this issue, we will provide the following map.
The green dots represent all commercial nuclear plants in the world that are currently operating, under construction, or officially on order. There are 222. The only plant omitted is Russia’s portable floating power station Akademik Lomonosov (due for deployment in Kamchatka), for which the siting issue is not particularly pertinent.
The red dots represent all earthquakes of magnitude at least 7.0 that occurred from 1973 through 2010. There were 520 such earthquakes. These data points were provided by USGS, which has collected standardized worldwide earthquake data since 1973."
by Reed via Mitnse.files.wordpress 6/10/2011 9:09:37 AM

Morning @all
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:12:12 AM

@hudebnik Good morning.
by Reed 6/10/2011 9:13:47 AM

Contaminated water remains packed with radioactive substances after treatment
Sludge that will be generated in the process of treating radioactive water at the tsunami-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant is estimated to contain 100 million becquerels of radioactive substances per cubic centimeter, the plant operator said.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) made the estimation in a report on the water treatment system submitted to the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA).
While trying to begin treating the increasing volumes of radioactive water at an early date, TEPCO has failed to indicate how it will store the toxic sludge or a final disposal site in its road map to bring the crippled plant under control.
TEPCO will launch treatment of the radioactive water on June 15 at the earliest. Specifically, it will use special equipment produced by Kurion Inc. of the United States and France-based Areva -- which have broad experience removing radioactive substances -- to separate sludge contaminated with radioactive substances from the water. The sludge is expected to contain such high levels of radiation because radioactive substances in it will be condensed.
TEPCO estimates that about 2,000 cubic meters of sludge will be generated through the treatment of radioactive water at the plant by the end of this year, and intends to keep the toxic substance in the plant's intensive radioactive waste disposal facility.
However, the facility can only hold 1,200 cubic meters of the sludge because radioactive waste generated in the plant's ordinary operations is already kept there, forcing the utility to build a new facility to keep the sludge on the plant premises.
However, because it is so highly radioactive, the sludge is extremely difficult to manage. Areva acknowledges that it has never handled sludge generated through the treatment of water emitting more than 1,000 millisieverts of radiation per hour.
While radioactive waste generated in the plant's ordinary operations is regularly transferred to a reprocessing plant in Rokkasho, Aomori Prefecture, the final disposal site for the sludge and other waste generated as a result of the Fukushima nuclear disaster has not been determined.
NISA councillor Hidehiko Nishiyama fears it will take a long time to establish the radioactive sludge treatment process.
"Since such sludge has never been generated in Japan, the treatment technology must be created from scratch, from the research and development phase," he says. "It will likely take a long time, considering the safety regulations need to be enforced, development of an actual treatment method, and legal procedures."
Junichi Matsumoto, a high-ranking TEPCO official, also admitted that it will need to develop treatment methods. "We haven't decided how to produce containers for the sludge, or how to treat it," he said.
(Mainichi Japan) June 10, 2011
mdn.mainichi.jp
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:14:36 AM

@reed gmorning some great links there cannot believe the hydrogen one that is amazing
@hudebnik good morning areva just jumped in without doing it's homework I see
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 9:21:16 AM

Hi @elaine
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:25:11 AM

It all comes back to the same thing - there is no believable plan, just sticking-plaster 'solutions' (few of which sadly have worked). Nobody has ever previously attempted to deal with a nuclear disaster of this magnitude.
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:27:29 AM

@elainekirk Good morning Elaine :) 4:27a.m. in Texas so it's off to bed for me. Enjoy the day y'@ll. :)
by Reed 6/10/2011 9:28:34 AM

G'night/morning @reed
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:29:47 AM

It is interesting to compare the Tepco road map, not yet a month old, www.tepco.co.jp with 'progress' to date.
by hudebnik 6/10/2011 9:30:58 AM

hmmm tanzania has earthquakes ? dar es salaam :
Friday June 10 2011, 08:28:13 UTC 63 minutes ago Tanzania 4.8 10.0 quakes.globalincidentmap.com
by Edano 6/10/2011 9:33:19 AM

@reed g'night sleep well
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 9:35:49 AM

There is a story here that nisa is possibly giving the go ahead for a sea dump to prevent equipment being rusted etc by it ??? translate.google.com
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 9:36:55 AM

by AustralianCannonball 6/10/2011 11:04:43 AM

Hi guys. Just going to drop my latest video off and keep moving as in a rush. Some people in Tokyo are angry at me about the "Tokyo Radiation" video but I will tell you about that another time.
by AustralianCannonball 6/10/2011 11:04:46 AM

This site has collected many radiation spread links together it is a translated page but there are links to English language sites translate.google.com
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 11:26:21 AM

@hudebnik thanks for the progress report.... they do seem to be on target and maybe ahead... do you happen to know if it is the culture of Japan (maybe due to the charecters vs letters, that they seem to comunicate with "graphics" vs more detailed written schedules?
by fitter 6/10/2011 11:38:16 AM

Morning all! This is the first headline I read this morning. "Nuclear fuel has melted through base of Fukushima plant " Nothing like a minor panic with your morning coffee. The article only mentions the fuel melting through the RPV.
by lillymunster 6/10/2011 11:57:12 AM

Some news about Yucca Mountain in Nevada: finance.yahoo.com
by Diane_NJ 6/10/2011 11:58:42 AM

Three nuclear workers exposed to high radiation
news.asiaone.com
by trh 6/10/2011 12:08:12 PM

@trh 3 now I heard of 2 on twitter earlier the people of Japan are getting extremely proactive
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 12:10:48 PM

@elainekirk So the two oriigional ones that had high thyroid iodine exposure, probably from the origional mid march release. The third is a new one, don't know if it a recent actual whole body dose or if it is also "legacy" iodine. Important to me to understand if they have gotten control of the exposure issue after the early days.
by RBeaner 6/10/2011 12:13:43 PM

@rbeaner the tweeters were saying 2 new cases
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 12:14:17 PM

@nancy look on the bright side you got a headline it is just so not happening in the UK
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 12:42:49 PM

@elainekirk When you say twitter earlier, how much earlier do you meen?, cause we new of 2 already, and that@trh article now says total 3.
by RBeaner 6/10/2011 12:48:37 PM

Radioactive sewage sludge to be recycled as cement ex-skf.blogspot.com
by Bobby1 6/10/2011 1:01:37 PM

@rbeaner yup that is why I didnt post it, personally I believe the Japanese public and time after time what they have said appears in the news eventually, however as it is hear-say I keep quiet and await 'confirmation'.
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 1:01:38 PM

@Dean, 9.0 "interim value" Quake; 9.4 has been a mentioned value. 9.4 would mean a possible 8.5 aftershock. I think there is a reason the "interim value" has not been updated, and its not good
by quaker 6/10/2011 1:07:01 PM

@bobby I I wonder if anything will come of the publicity
"Nippon Television’s investigation has revealed that the radioactive materials in very high concentration, 170,000 becquerels per kilogram, had been found in the sewage slag from a sewage treatment facility in Tokyo. [...]

The samples taken at two additional facilities also showed radiation over 100,000 becquerels per kilogram. The slag has already been recycled into cement and other construction materials.

The national government issued a guidance on May 12 as to how to dispose the radioactive sludge and slag in Fukushima Prefecture, which is to burn the sludge and store the burned sludge (slag) in containers. However, there is no such standard for radioactive sewage treatment outside Fukushima Prefecture." MAY 22nd enenews.com
by elainekirk 6/10/2011 1:07:05 PM