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  • @Angie Nite! See you later.
    by lillymunster 6/11/2011 3:22:12 PM

  • @bo Thanks, I'll be interested to read the post. And cheers for the okonomiyaki offer!
    by Will 6/11/2011 3:34:54 PM

  • @lillymunster Food always seems to be going up these days, especially vegetables. But I haven't noticed any increases due to Fukushima. Early on there were shortages of some items, for example water sold out completely, although that probably had more to do with tsunami fears (people suddenly bought the emergency supplies they had neglected to do before March 11th). People here are still sending bottled water and tea and dried foods etc to friends and relatives in the worst hit parts of Tohoku though...3 months after the disaster!
    by Will 6/11/2011 3:42:37 PM

  • @Will what nationality are you, is your wife japanese
    by fitter 6/11/2011 3:44:12 PM

  • @Will I see the animal rescue groups are still doing food deliveries into the tsunami impacted areas. So that sounds like there has been little or no restoration of supplies or services in those areas.
    by lillymunster 6/11/2011 3:44:20 PM

  • @fitter I'm British and yes my wife is Japanese.
    by Will 6/11/2011 3:45:28 PM

  • what is the political structure like in japan as in conparision with the english, family is irish/english and i do my mother gov't items so able to compare a little, unless you are familarer with US
    by fitter 6/11/2011 3:47:15 PM

  • How does the people comunicate with the gov't there? or do they
    by fitter 6/11/2011 3:48:14 PM

  • @will glad to see you went further south, hope you were able to stay with the same company or better
    by fitter 6/11/2011 3:50:40 PM

  • @lillymunster Yes, it sounds like it. If I didn't personally know people still sending supplies I'd find it hard to believe. Admittedly, people often send food and drink to friends and relatives in different parts of Japan, but this is being done out of necessity. It seems to me that if the supplies are being posted then postal/takyubin services must be working to some degree so why can't the government move supplies to the areas that need it? Or alternatively why couldn't they move people out of the areas where there are shortages? It doesn' seem impossible to me. Certainly there is no shortage of food or drink in most of Japan (though admittedly it could be contaminated!). Also why are so many people still in shelters? It is so frustrating.
    by Will 6/11/2011 3:56:52 PM

  • @Will Some of the people getting pet food deliveries are trying to repair damaged homes that are still there. Another one was a place called "cat island" they could not get anyone to deliver normal supplies. The animal rescue group was going out and taking them pet food. It seems like those in the bad areas that still have surviving homes are really on their own.

    The GoJ seems to need to sort the needs of those in shelters. Those wiped out by the tsunami but far enough away to not be impacted by the nuke plant should be getting fast tracked to rebuild or repair if they want to go home. But I wonder if some of the foot dragging is that the govt. thinks they may have to close off a larger area permanently like they did in Chernobyl. They do need to do something. You can't leave people living in school gyms forever. They need to be able to either start over or have a more comfortable temporary home. I have wondered about moving old neighborhoods together to somewhere new if they can't ever go back. It might give them some community in their new location?
    by lillymunster 6/11/2011 4:02:58 PM

  • Protests in Japan www.nytimes.com
    by lillymunster 6/11/2011 4:03:36 PM

  • Have to go for a while. Back later
    by lillymunster 6/11/2011 4:11:39 PM

  • @fitter In many ways the political structure is different of course, but I'm no expert on these matters I'm afraid. Personally, I'm not impressed with politicians in general, be they British or Japanese. As far as the system goes though, my personal view is that to understand the Japanese system you need to understand the political changes of the Meiji era as there seems so much continuancy from that time to now. The political project then was to build a strong Japan and to achieve high standing and status in the international community. Individuals interests were subsumed within this. National interest first, the people second. In many ways this (or strong echoes of it) still holds, and so people don't have such a strong idea of their rights as they might do. Talking out can have quite a social cost. That said, everyone is different here, and individuals certainly do stand up (sometimes more than in the UK), but it is against a different political backdrop. Also, as is often remarked on, government, bureaucracy, and business enjoy very close ties (as in the Meiji era) which can have some unfortunate consequences.
    by Will 6/11/2011 4:16:38 PM

  • @lillymunster @ HirokoTabuchi Hiroko Tabuchi
    Some criticism w/ how I ended story. But I was struck omw home by people dining/shopping as if nothing happened. So I added some perspective
    10 minutes ago HirokoTabuchi Hiroko Tabuchi
    Fact is: most Japanese DIDN'T participate. Was it significant? Yes. Did it transform Japan? No. But it does feel like start of something new
    2 minutes ago www.nytimes.com
    by Majj 6/11/2011 4:19:46 PM

  • @lillymunster I agree. And that is an unsettling point you raise about the government perhaps foot dragging as they might have to close off larger areas permanently. My family and I spent just two days and a night in an evacuation centre because of the tsunami and that was unpleasant enough. I really feel for people still in shelters after 3 months.
    by Will 6/11/2011 4:21:46 PM

  • @Will will what time period was the meiaji regia
    n..
    by fitter 6/11/2011 4:35:05 PM

  • The Meiji era was from 1868-1912. Currently, as you may know, it is year 23 of the Heisei era in Japan (as well as being 2011!). The eras start and end with the reign of Japanese emperors. Sorry if this is getting off topic!
    by Will 6/11/2011 4:44:59 PM

  • i could not find any source that confirms the "irradiated coin" story. most of the people die directly of the heat and the fire of a nuke bomb, the radiation is not the main acute death cause. i do not believe that coins would get irradiated by a nuke bomb. it needs a lot of time to do that.
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/11/2011 4:58:02 PM


  • Very brief, however reporting of protests in Tokoyo has made it to the Sydney Morning Herald:

    Post-tsunami fears prompt atomic protest
    Shigemi Sato
    June 12, 2011

    www.smh.com.au
    by jt 6/11/2011 5:12:01 PM

  • E.coli detected in bean sprouts in Germany

    Authorities in Germany announced on Friday that they had detected the deadly O-104 E. coli strain in bean sprouts. The central government had earlier identified sprouts grown at a farm in the northern part of the country as the source of the outbreak that has killed dozens of people.

    Officials in North Rhine-Westphalia said the sprouts were found in an opened package that had been discarded in a trash can at a private home. Some members of the family living in the home had eaten the sprouts and been infected with the O-104 E. coli strain.

    Earlier in the day, the government said the most likely source of the outbreak was from bean sprouts grown at a farm in the state of Lower Saxony.

    The E. coli outbreak has spread to 16 countries and caused the deaths of 30 Germans. One Swede who traveled to Germany also died.

    All the victims died of kidney failure caused by hemolytic-uremic syndrome. The number of E. coli patients now exceeds 3,000.

    Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:57 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/11/2011 5:17:25 PM

  • Italians protest nuclear power ahead of referendum

    People in Italy have taken to the streets to protest against nuclear power ahead of a referendum to decide whether the country should revive its nuclear energy program. The referendum is scheduled for Sunday and Monday.

    On Friday, anti-nuclear campaigners held rallies across the country to urge people to vote against a government plan to resume nuclear power generation.

    In Rome, thousands of people gathered at Popolo Square to call on voters to support the suspension of the nuclear program.

    One protestor hinted that something like the Japanese nuclear accident could also happen in Italy, saying even Japan cannot manage its nuclear plants.

    Another demonstrator said it is right to seek public opinion directly, adding that the referendum will be more important than a parliamentary vote.

    In a reaction to the Chernobyl accident, Italy shut down all of its nuclear power stations by 1990. But the administration of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has pledged to revive nuclear power and build new plants.

    Following the accident at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant, Germany and Switzerland have decided to close all of their nuclear power plants.

    Italy's referendum will be the first in the world on nuclear power. A majority of the vote with more than half of eligible voters taking part is required for approval of the nuclear program.

    Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:26 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp

    better no nukes in berlusconi's hands. makes me shiver.
    by Edano 6/11/2011 5:20:11 PM

  • NHK poll: 77% don't see progress in reconstruction

    More than three quarters of the people responding to an NHK survey say rebuilding in areas hit by the March 11th earthquake and tsunami is not progressing smoothly 3 months after the disaster.

    Asked whether reconstruction of their municipalities was going smoothly, 5 percent of the respondents said yes and 15 percent to some extent.

    But 29 percent said they haven't seen much progress and 48 percent no progress.

    They were also asked what they expect of their municipalities in reconstruction. Respondents were allowed to give multiple answers.

    Speedy recovery topped the list at 38 percent. 30 percent said they expect their governments to accept residents' suggestions. Another 30 percent said they want their communities to be restored to the state before the disaster. 28 percent said they expect safety issues to be a priority.

    NHK conducted the survey on about 500 people living in evacuation shelters and temporary housing in Iwate, Miyagi, and Fukushima prefectures earlier this month. The 3 prefectures were the hardest hit by the disaster.

    Professor Yoshiteru Murosaki of Kwansei Gakuin University says many survivors may not see much progress because they are not part of reconstruction planning.

    He urges municipalities to have many people take part in discussions on reconstruction, including survivors.

    Saturday, June 11, 2011 09:35 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/11/2011 5:21:41 PM

  • @Edano While this has nothing to do with this Board here, i read a report, that they have also found a new strain less deadly though in Denmark...I hope they get this under control.
    While this has taken so long to pinpoint, there still is no explanation as to HOW they became tainted.........me thinks there is more to the story :-O
    by Veenie 6/11/2011 5:21:47 PM

  • Video from JNN live feed, also did one with phone/screen tilt that is uploaded

    by deb 6/11/2011 5:23:02 PM

  • @Veenie : it's still a big mystery (here in Germany).
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/11/2011 5:23:35 PM

  • Interesting aspect when screen is tilted

    by deb 6/11/2011 5:24:36 PM

  • @deb : you re-invented the x-rays !!!!
    by Edano 6/11/2011 5:26:12 PM

  • @Edano Not so sure it is a good thing, the wall on #2 is scary looking, not sure if it reflections with lighting (maybe different types projecting the orange color) or fire????
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:28:16 PM

  • @deb WHAT did you do to get the heat signature or is this a joke ?
    by Veenie 6/11/2011 5:29:01 PM

  • @Veenie My laptop screen is tilted all the way back, then I use the iphone to record, that too gets tilted to block out the white light. UKVal actually came up with that one.
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:31:07 PM

  • @deb Now THAT is interesting.lol..really interesting !!
    by Veenie 6/11/2011 5:32:44 PM

  • @ Jacob Roberts on RT. Fukushima media cover-up - PR success, public health disaster'. youtu.be
    by Mona 6/11/2011 5:33:08 PM

  • @Mona The ones that are supposed to protect us, are in fact, our worst enemies when it comes to the Nuclear Industry. A worldwide problem sadly.
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:40:30 PM

  • Anybody got any numbers on the protest's in JP?
    by Veenie 6/11/2011 5:43:08 PM

  • @deb just seen your video... is that from the show yesterday? What do you make of it?
    by fitter 6/11/2011 5:43:09 PM

  • @fitter I recorded that, maybe 15 minutes before posting it here. It corresponds with the video below it. It's a recording while the other was recording, the last 4-5 minutes of the video.
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:47:18 PM

  • It's live recording so happening now
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:48:31 PM

  • @deb I don't understand the digital world, do not understand "artifacts", but do you think this represent heat or something else?
    by fitter 6/11/2011 5:49:10 PM

  • @fitter only if your screen is able to detect heat ;)
    by Edano 6/11/2011 5:50:23 PM

  • @Veenie On Saturday, several hundred people gathered in a muddy field at a park in central Tokyo next to the city's iconic Tokyo Tower, shouting anti-nuclear slogans and carrying colorful banners with phrases such as "Immediately stop all use of nuclear power and shut down the plants." from the AP - finance.yahoo.com

    Protests were also held in other parts of the city.
    by Diane_NJ 6/11/2011 5:50:57 PM

  • @fitter Think we need a scientist for that one, I recorded it because there are distinct differences when you block out the white light or a spectrum of color on the screen.
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:52:05 PM

  • Best case, it could be special night lighting, with an orange tint, and moisture/smoke in the air diffuses it, thus the fire shadow appearance on the wall??? Worst case, fire???
    by deb 6/11/2011 5:55:03 PM

  • @Veenie www.nytimes.com report a crowd that "eventually grew to about 20,000 people, according to organizers’ estimates"
    by es 6/11/2011 5:55:15 PM

  • @deb either way you do spme nice photos, love the weather ones
    by fitter 6/11/2011 5:55:58 PM

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