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They have started work on removing the loader from the Monju reactor sankei.jp.msn.com
by elainekirk 6/20/2011 5:16:10 PM

@Edano , kind of. Where I saw this, it said no fishing, no swimming, no drinking under the radioactivity signs with little symbols, too. I wish I had taken pics. at the time. But I believe such intervention would still be preferable to the situation now in which we find minimal intervention, ;)
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 5:16:30 PM

chernobyl ponds evolved into a whole new nuclear ecosystem with all the nuc critters
by dean 6/20/2011 5:17:53 PM

@will do you think they are waterin #3s reactor cap that landed where a lot of the steam is didn't it?
by elainekirk 6/20/2011 5:20:18 PM

@dean , I am sorry. I changed the permissions of the link. This should work now.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 5:20:26 PM

ty Peter will check it out
by dean 6/20/2011 5:21:40 PM

@dean , I saved to to my google docs. If we can't make it work, I 'll find the original url.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 5:22:44 PM

steam out of 4 by the SFP on Teppycam now.
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:22:56 PM

@Dean & Peter, I will try to get something put together on the water handling & ponds later today/tomorrow AM. Will post it here for all to review.
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:23:51 PM

ty Lilly
by dean 6/20/2011 5:25:29 PM

i find it very strange that they want to fire kan. the country is in an existential crisis, and the politicians quarrel like children.
by Edano 6/20/2011 5:28:00 PM

I wonder if there is some sort of custom.. so may bow's and I'm sorry's then you get replaced?
by dean 6/20/2011 5:29:13 PM

@Edano He isn't following the corporate mandate. :-)
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:29:19 PM

@lillymunster When I first saw it I thought fog, just because of the quantity. But it was steam/smoke...it died down a bit and then got stronger again which allowed you to see the source. Scary.
by Will 6/20/2011 5:30:15 PM

Robot Quince (complete with essential power line)
by elainekirk 6/20/2011 5:31:18 PM

@elainekirk I'm not sure, but that was a lot of steam for a while.
by Will 6/20/2011 5:31:40 PM

@Will when I checked it initially 3 was pushing out steam like it was an old train.
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:32:00 PM

@nancy yup with the wind blowing as it is #3 is a good candidate
by elainekirk 6/20/2011 5:32:47 PM

@lillymunster @elainekirk It almost looked like it was coming out of 3 and 4 for a while. Well my eyes are hurting and its late in Japan so I'm off to bed.
by Will 6/20/2011 5:35:53 PM

i bet in 2 years we will still be sitting here and watching the steam.
by Edano 6/20/2011 5:37:34 PM

@Edano , in this NYT article www.nytimes.com , the authors portray this as a shrewd move by the nuclear power lobby to get rid of a guy who hails from some sort of anti-establishment grass-roots movement.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 5:39:28 PM

@Peter Melzer : somehow this really frightens me.
by Edano 6/20/2011 5:42:35 PM

@Edano Did you see the article Bo posted last night about TEPCO getting actors blacklisted if they spoke out about the disaster or nuclear power since the disaster?
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:44:08 PM

@lillymunster : wow, no.
by Edano 6/20/2011 5:44:48 PM

@edano....no we won't.....I can definitely assure you of that. Remember, there will be no reason for the Tepycam once they have tarped everything....nothing to see here, problem is solved.
by wrshpr 6/20/2011 5:46:19 PM

@Edano I don't think I have the link still but will go check. Bo might be able to repost when he returns if I don't find it.
thx
by lillymunster edited by Edano 6/20/2011 5:46:59 PM

Found it. Article about blacklisting actors etc. www.dailymail.co.uk
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:48:15 PM

Edano it would be worth casting out prediction letters on fukushima... time capsule
by dean 6/20/2011 5:50:08 PM

"According to a well-known Japanese documentary maker, TEPCO paid for the creation of a blacklist of actors and musicians who are against the nuclear industry.

When one actor, Taro Yamamoto, joined an anti-nuclear protest, he lost his part in a popular soap opera. Yamamoto's 'crime' was to say that schoolchildren in Fukushima should not be subjected to the same annual radiation dose (20 microsieverts per year) as nuclear power workers in Europe."

makes me shiver. how can you freely live in a country like this ?
by Edano 6/20/2011 5:50:45 PM

www.businessweek.com LITIGATION.. interesting
by dean 6/20/2011 5:55:16 PM

www.vpr.net current debate and legal,, on states rights for nuclear or against nuclear
by dean 6/20/2011 5:56:54 PM

@Edano What I want someone to confront someone about is why TEPCO had resources to worry about getting actors blacklisted but they still can't get around to ordering ice vests for the workers. They are planning on getting that done for over a month since they announced they were going to do it. Have someone whip out a corporate credit card, go online and order them already. I found more than one business that has bulk lots of them in stock ready to ship.
by lillymunster 6/20/2011 5:57:16 PM

@Edano , I asked Bo about it (e.g. what grass-roots movement Kan represents). Bo did not know much either. I guess for outsiders the chore is like understanding the role of Heinz Herbert Karry. We lack local insight.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 5:58:52 PM

@dean, states are trying to block these. I have to wonder about adjacent states ability to try to block a NPP renewal or license. Cooper and Ft. Calhoun sit near multiple boarders. So their operation easily can impact people in other states. Same with Prairie Island in MN is near the WI border. Those people should have some ability to intervene since they are at potential risk.

by lillymunster 6/20/2011 6:00:35 PM

@Peter Melzer i could imagine, if tepco succeeds in kicking out kan and installs a puppet instead, things will get even worse.
by Edano 6/20/2011 6:01:07 PM

@lillymunster : this is sick.
by Edano 6/20/2011 6:01:36 PM

@lilly, from a legal point, i would say the population within the accident boundaries from a NPP have a vote, independent on which state is involved. Then they should group and have representation at the hearings etc for every thing including litigation at the plants
by dean 6/20/2011 6:06:03 PM

@Edano , I do not know how much the prefects have their political careers at stack. Hopefully they balk, resisting pressure to give permission for the restart of old reactors, before they are thoroughly inspected.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 6:06:35 PM

@you stack=stake, ;)
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 6:09:34 PM

you know.. I can't imagine why the Emperor of Japan can idly sit by and watch the deterioration of the country through the haggling that goes on with in the gov't and then out to the utilities.. whos in charge?
by dean 6/20/2011 6:15:14 PM

@dean , good point. The Emperor could show backbone. After the Teno visited ground zero, the war was over.
by Peter Melzer 6/20/2011 6:17:05 PM

The Editorial Notebook; Who Runs Japan? The System.
By NICHOLAS WADE
Published: June 15, 1989

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Who really holds power in Japan? If it's the people, how can the ever-ruling Liberal Democratic Party continue in office even though its popularity recently dropped to 3.9 percent? If it's the party that holds power, why has it been unable to change an industrial and trade policy that leads Japan toward direct collision with its largest trading partner?

A remarkable new book by a Dutch journalist who has lived in Japan for 25 years offers a thread through the maze of Japan's polity. In ''The Enigma of Japanese Power,'' Karel van Wolferen disputes economists who he says assume Japan to be the exemplar of free market capitalism, and observers who consider it a harmonious parliamentary democracy. Spectacular though Japan's economic resurgence has been, its success, Mr. van Wolferen explains, has been built on the backs of its citizens, who are subject to firm social control.

The paucity of lawyers in Japan arises not from the people's love of harmony, as Japanese apologists state, but because administrators allow only 2 percent of applicants to pass the bar exam each year. The administrators also control the pay and promotions of Japanese judges. Before such a dependent judiciary, it's no surprise that Japanese prosecutors win 99.8 percent of their cases.
by dean 6/20/2011 6:18:42 PM

time to head home.. wil
l be back later.. very nice talking to all
by dean 6/20/2011 6:27:33 PM

Missouri river update from corps. Oahe and Big Bend dams increased their releases yesterday. 158,700 cfs (19 Jun)
153,600 cfs (18 Jun) Big Bend 158,800 cfs (19 Jun)
153,000 cfs (18 Jun)Gavins Point has not increased. Expect Gavins Point to increase output again in a few days. Oahe was 1.5 feet from water going over the top. Big Bend was 3.5 feet from the top. Gavins Point is 3 feet from top.
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by lillymunster 6/20/2011 6:36:43 PM