Japan Earthquake | Page 1772

  • @Majj Yes, I loved that bit :)
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:23:11 PM

  • @RadioGuy LOL
    by Majj 6/27/2011 8:24:04 PM

  • @Majj Exactly like the TEPCO model of PR.
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:26:09 PM

  • www.cartoradiations.fr
    @Majj and this: "In this picture of the plant (H/T Dominique), I see sandbags against some openings. Is this what they meant by "watertight"?"

    by RadioGuy via Cartoradiations.fr 6/27/2011 8:26:51 PM

  • by Deb 6/27/2011 8:27:20 PM

  • @RadioGuy Yes. That and their claims the doors are "watertight". Those look like generic industrial steel doors to me.
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:27:54 PM

  • @Hi all “Exciting “ stay for me in Kansas City… Flooding and tornados.. Found this in Iowa Independent about Calhoun: “The Calhoun plant was built at 1,004 feet mean sea level, and can sustain flood waters up to 1,014 feet. On Sunday, when the dam broke, the Missouri River was at roughly 1,006.5 feet near the Calhoun station. If floodwaters reach 1,009 feet, the plant would likely switch from the lowest level of emergency status (where it has been since June 6) to the second of four emergency levels. Based on the latest figures given by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is gauging the release of water from dams upstream, flooding near Calhoun should peak at 1,008 feet.
    In addition, workers at Calhoun are adding to the height of existing levees, hoping to strengthen the existing structures before waters rise near their peak of 1,011 feet.
    As The Iowa Independent previously reported, both Cooper and Calhoun have stockpiled supplies of fuel for emergency generator power. Dricks said Monday that arrangements had been made for even more fuel to arrive by boat or aircraft if needed, both for the emergency generators and for pumps removing water from inside the levees.
    Worst-case scenario plans are also in place if floodwaters should reach 1,014 feet, breech the levee and prohibit further use of emergency generators. In that highly unlikely circumstance, plant officials would tap into power lines running above the facility and/or utilize secondary backup generators housed at 1,036 feet.
    Before floodwaters could flow into the cooling pool the river would need to rise to an incredibly unprecedented 1,038.5 feet.”
    iowaindependent.com
    by Mona 6/27/2011 8:28:27 PM

  • @lillymunster They probably have super-secret radiation-hardened Hello Kitty duct tape imported from Fukushima, where it's been doing a bang-up job for them. ;)
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:30:36 PM

  • @Deb What is this blow out video..? Doesn't look nice.
    by Mona 6/27/2011 8:37:33 PM

  • @Mona I hate to remind this, but all these peak numbers are based on snow-melt estimates and current dam pool levels, and are based on current loads. But it has yet to stop raining, and with all those billions of acre-feet under water now, and a warming summer evaporating it all over, it's unlikely that it will. All that water has to come down somewhere. The floodgates are open wide virtually up and down the river by now. Even Gavin's Point, the last holdout, is being opened up to 160,000 CFS.

    "Above Gavins Point, the Missouri River drains nearly 280,000 square miles from five states, a region bigger than Texas.

    On June 23, the corps increased releases at Gavins Point to a record 160,000 cubic feet per second. At that rate, 1 million acre-feet passes through the dam's floodgates every three days.
    The corps expects peak releases to extend well into August."

    www.omaha.com
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:38:52 PM

  • Current flow of the Missouri past Omaha is 195,000 (!!!) CFS.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:40:20 PM

  • @Mona It's false color time lapse. The false color helps break same-colored vapors into different colors so you can distinguish steam from fog. The time laps makes it scream right along, where really it drifts, but this shows the constant high release rate.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:42:58 PM

  • @lillymunster erm have you seen this nrc doc?
    pbadupws.nrc.gov

    SUBJECT: FINAL SIGNIFICANCE DETERMINATION FOR A YELLOW FINDING AND
    NOTICE OF VIOLATION, NRC INSPECTION REPORT 05000285/2010007,
    FORT CALHOUN STATION
    Dear Mr. Bannister:
    The purpose of this letter is to provide you the final significance determination of the preliminary
    Yellow finding identified in our previous communication dated July 15, 2010, which included the
    subject inspection report. The inspection finding was assessed using the Significance
    Determination Process and was preliminarily characterized as a Yellow finding with substantial
    importance to safety that may result in additional NRC inspection and potentially other NRC
    action. This Yellow finding involved the failure to maintain procedures for combating a
    significant flood as required by Technical Specification 5.8.1.a, “Procedures.
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 8:48:23 PM

  • cracks in the veneer of France's nuclear state online.wsj.com
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:48:51 PM

  • @Elaine Kirk yes before the flooding was announced. Calhoun's current flood protection is their IMPROVED plan. That will keep you up at night..
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:49:45 PM

  • @Radioguy ty for updates and info. I do think of what Arnie Gundersen mentioned in a video, the possibility for a dam to break along the Missouri, I hope they will hold.I do not have internet axcess all the time now, but I come to update when I can - hard not to when so much is happening.. You are doing so great everybody!
    by Mona 6/27/2011 8:50:47 PM

  • @lillymunster Lovely. These are the new improved absolutely water-tight bags of sand.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:51:37 PM

  • Calhoun's previous flood plan said to go get sand bags and find sand. They didn't even have empty bags or a contract to have sand delivered...
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:51:41 PM

  • @RadioGuy They are special sand bags because they remembered to get them before flood season.
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:52:04 PM

  • @Mona His quote that "nuclear power plant and sandbags should never be mentioned in same sentence" is still the classic.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:52:47 PM

  • @lillymunster Oh. Did they remember to fill them all before flood season?
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:53:29 PM

  • @Radioguy True words there.
    by Mona 6/27/2011 8:54:03 PM

  • I somehow can't shake this vision of minimum wage workers out there in knee-deep water at the last possible second trying to shovel slop into sandbags as the water pours over the berm.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:56:17 PM

  • @RadioGuy sump pumps are a standard household install around here. They get overwhelmed or burn out. I am assuming they have some spiffy industrial grade sump pumps but the idea that they only thing keeping that plant running is some sump pumps is foolish
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:56:22 PM

  • @RadioGuy Does TEPCO have a US division? Do they contract to run power plants in the US? This is starting to sound way too familiar....
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 8:57:14 PM

  • @lillymunster Yes, I lived in a subdivision with groundwater issues, and "sump pump" quickly becomes just a couple of four letter words.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:58:00 PM

  • The Fuku disaster scrubbed the two plants TEPCO was to build on the US Gulf Coast, so yes they do on some level.
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 8:59:33 PM

  • Also, as was pointed out for Fukushima, by dean perhaps, plants not only require lots of water, they require clean water. And that requires filtration and pumping which requires power. How big an issue does that become as everything around becomes more and more flooded?
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 9:03:41 PM

  • 20 cases of Salmonella
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:06:56 PM

  • #FDA ALERT avoid Evergreen Produce brand alfalfa sprouts or spicy sprouts bit.ly
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:06:57 PM

  • Oh, here's the latest from www.omaha.com Flood test not over for nuke plant:

    Two outside lines of defense against flooding failed Sunday at Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station, shifting the plant to backup electricity for 12 hours...

    When the [rubber] dam ruptured, it allowed floodwater to fill in around the plant to a depth of more than two feet, said OPPD spokesman Jeff Hanson...

    “It's pretty jarring to see a boat tied up to the nuclear power plant"
    by RadioGuy 6/27/2011 9:08:40 PM


  • OFFSITE NOTIFICATION DUE TO PETROLEUM RELEASE TO THE MISSOURI RIVER

    "At approximately 0125 CDT, the AquaDam providing enhanced flood protection for Fort Calhoun Station Unit 1 failed. This resulted in approximately 100 gallons of petroleum being released into the river after a protective barrier was breached and many fuel containers were washed out to the river. The fuel/oil containers were staged around the facility to supply fuel for pumps which remove water within the flood containment barriers. The spill was reported to the State of Nebraska at 10:45 AM CDT on 6/26/2011.

    "This condition is being reported pursuant to 10 CFR 50.72(b)(2)(xi) for News Release or Notification of Other Government Agency. Applicable governmental agencies have been notified per plant procedures."

    The licensee notified the NRC Resident Inspector.
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:13:11 PM

  • @Elaine Kirk How are you going to Tweet this ?
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:14:48 PM

  • @Veenie ? sry I actually didnt know if it was old news so I just put it up to see if it was new sir it came from here www.nrc.gov ...sir erm would ou like a coffee sir
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:16:50 PM

  • @Elaine Kirk No thanks, AC is not working, they are installing wiall unit
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:18:37 PM

  • @Veenie is it tweetworthy or old? I will go find some tweets to retweet I am good at that ...I think :)
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:20:05 PM

  • @Elaine Kirk I don't know, i am on the Los Alamos fire on the other board
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:21:09 PM

  • @Veenie help me !!! tell me this news report isnt some PR cos it seems to me they are saying that the americans have come up with a magical removal method to get plutonium out of the body !! translate.google.com
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:23:08 PM

  • @Elaine Kirk the oil spill is fairly minor it was from their training ground and wasn't related to the power plant. I think they had to report it because it was pollution.
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 9:23:23 PM

  • @lillymunster ty
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:24:08 PM

  • @you I read the english version of the plutonium article yesterday somewhere. The lab figured out how plutonium gets into cells and is hoping to use that to come up with a way to block it from getting in to cells.
    by lillymunster 6/27/2011 9:25:07 PM

  • @lillymunster @Elaine Kirk That the way i understood it too..difficult
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:26:18 PM

  • @lillymunster ah so it is a stunt to convince the Japanese public that nuclear isnt a threat how positively warped
    by Elaine Kirk 6/27/2011 9:26:43 PM

  • Fukushima cover on its way
    27 June 2011

    Tepco plans to complete the construction of a cover over the stricken Fukushima Daiichi unit 1 by the end of September, according to a progress report submitted to the Japanese nuclear safety agency. Meanwhile, recent analysis suggests most of the fuel in the unit's storage pool is undamaged.

    Fukushima Daiichi 1 cover
    The cover over unit 1 should be complete by the end of September (Image: Tepco)
    A cover is being installed over the unit 1 reactor building, damaged by a hydrogen explosion on 12 March, as a temporary measure to reduce the release of radioactive materials to the atmosphere as well as to prevent the ingress of rainwater. Preparatory work, such as levelling the ground, began in mid-May. Crawler cranes are to be used in the installation process to minimize the exposure dose of workers and shorten the work period.

    According to a report on the construction plan submitted by Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) on 24 June, on-site construction work is now underway and is scheduled for completion by the end of September, although the plans include a contingency margin to the end of November.

    The cover will be able to accommodate an accumulated snow load of 30 centimetres, wind speeds of up to 25 metres per second, and a horizontal seismic load of 0.2, according to Tepco. All the wall panels will have a flameproof coating, and the structure will have a filtered ventilation system capable of handling 10,000 cubic metres per hour through six lines, including two backup lines. The cover structure will also be fitted with internal monitoring cameras, radiation and hydrogen detectors, thermometers and a pipe for water injection.

    Unit 1 used fuel 'sound'



    Nuclide analysis of water from the used fuel pool at unit 1 suggests that most of the fuel in the pool is sound, Tepco reports. The analysis of 300 millilitres of water from the pool on 22 June showed higher activity levels than would be expected under normal conditions, but this is assumed to arise from contamination by radioactive materials from rubble, dust and incoming contaminated water.

    Trial operations of a system to treat contaminated water at Fukushima are continuing despite an interruption for a caesium absorption unit to be exchanged. According to Tepco, 2489 tonnes of contaminated water had been treated as of 24 June.
    by Veenie 6/27/2011 9:31:49 PM

  • ... end of november ....
    by Edano 6/27/2011 9:35:20 PM

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