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  • @RadioGuy well then they made it a day longer than i thought. on my phone while i sort out laptop issues and get a replacement pc online. the hd finally died.
    by lillymunster 6/28/2011 12:32:19 AM

  • My girlfriend's best friend lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico. She's in Seattle at the moment but I'll pass on fresh local news as soon as she gets back.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/28/2011 12:32:30 AM

  • @lillymunster Oh dear. I'll do a quick scan around and see if there's any new actual news abotu it
    by RadioGuy 6/28/2011 12:34:01 AM

  • @RadioGuy What sandbags? The inflatable berms gave in. The facilities are now surrounded by 2 feet (probably more) of water. I was discussing the repercussions of this and the power failure event with Dean earlier. It's not looking pretty.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/28/2011 12:35:01 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus There's a photo below somewhere of sandbags in front of industrial steel doors. That's apparently the "watertight" entrances.
    by RadioGuy 6/28/2011 12:37:55 AM

  • @lillymunster Darn. Well, make sure the rest is working before you spend money on replacement parts. If some vitals are gone with the hard-drive, it's bye bye. :/
    by Pedro Jesus 6/28/2011 12:38:05 AM

  • Ran some tools on the hd from the manufacturer. The hd has physical damage. Should have a spare computer online later.
    by lillymunster 6/28/2011 12:39:51 AM

  • @RadioGuy. I found a ex large image of the plant in ne. Sandbagged regular doors. Watertight my....
    by lillymunster 6/28/2011 12:40:59 AM

  • If we could only get the flood waters surrounding the Ft. Calhoon and Cooper nuclear plants to put out the fire outside of the Los Alamos lab, we win!
    by bo 6/28/2011 12:41:11 AM

  • @RadioGuy They have 3 levels of barriers against the water but the main one has given away... now they have the facilities surrounded by water. The sand bags won't do much. Water seeps easily through sand and the flood, as it seems, will last until August. Not a very promising scenario.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/28/2011 12:41:12 AM

  • @bo now that would be good
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 12:46:38 AM

  • Radioactive strontium detected in seabed
    Radioactive strontium has been detected for the first time on the seabed near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company says it found strontium-89 and -90 in the seabed soil. The company conducted a survey on June 2nd about 3 kilometers off the coast at 2 locations, some 20 kilometers north and south of the nuclear complex.

    The substances pose a serious health risk because they can accumulate in the bones if inhaled, which could cause cancer.

    Up to 44 becquerels per kilogram of strontium-90 were detected, which has a half-life of 29 years.

    The substances had been detected before in soil on land and in seawater following the nuclear accident in March.

    A member of the government's Nuclear Safety Commission, Shigeharu Kato, says more examination should be carried out to find out if or how the substances can accumulate in marine life. www3.nhk.or.jp
    by LM 6/28/2011 12:54:26 AM

  • www.nrc.gov
    an 06 calhoun report on a 'happening' you need to search the word 'watertight' or scroll to pg 1 of report and start at 'findings'
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 12:58:27 AM

  • @LM Funny how once you start testing for it, it appears.
    by RadioGuy 6/28/2011 12:58:27 AM

  • @LM I take it shareholders meeting is in progress / ended and we now are getting the news dump to deflect attention from the meeting after the news was held back before so it didnt adversly afftect the....you get my drift
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:01:08 AM

  • @radioguy Funny, huh! @Elaine You bet. They did the survey on June 2nd and we find out today. What a load of garbage!
    by LM 6/28/2011 1:05:25 AM

  • @Elaine Kirk This is just the kind of scrutiny the industry is trying desperately to avoid on the heels of Fukushima. Every plant you look into seems to have incidents caused by the stupidest human errors. Nuclear accident brings up 42,000,000 hits.
    by RadioGuy 6/28/2011 1:05:55 AM

  • "A member of the government's Nuclear Safety Commission, Shigeharu Kato, says more examination should be carried out to find out if or how the substances can accumulate in marine life"

    TOXICOLOGICAL PROFILE FOR STRONTIUM: www.atsdr.cdc.gov
    "The uptake or bioaccumulation of strontium by plants and organisms is the mechanism by which strontium in air, water, and soil enters into the food chain of humans. Bioconcentration factors (BCFs) have been measured by several investigators in both aquatic and terrestrial organisms for 90Sr (NCRP 1984). BCF values for 90Sr in aquatic, terrestrial, and wetland ecosystems at the Savannah River Site were reported by Friday (1996) and are summarized in Table 6-2. The study illustrates that the organisms with the highest uptake are aquatic organisms such as fish (large-mouthed bass), macroinvertebrates (insects), macrophytes (white-water lilies and bladderwort), and zooplankton. Because of the similarity of strontium to calcium, boney fish had a very high BCF, with a value >50,000 measured in the boney tissue (Friday 1996). In the muscle tissue of boney fish, BCF values for 90Sr ranged from high (benthic invertebrate and fish feeders; 610) to very high (piscivores; 3,400). Because strontium and calcium are chemically similar, the concentration of calcium in water can influence the bioaccumulation of strontium in biota. Organisms such as fish bioaccumulate strontium with an inverse correlation to levels of calcium in water. However, this correlation is not universal and does not apply to other organisms such as algae and plants (NCRP 1984)." (chapter 6, p.239)
    by es 6/28/2011 1:12:32 AM

  • Hi all! Smoke from 3 and 4 on Tepco cam...looks dark to me.
    by LM 6/28/2011 1:13:24 AM

  • @LM think its steam but yes looks a little dark
    by WolfDK 6/28/2011 1:17:02 AM

  • @WolfDK It looks more grey than it's been, but you're probably right...not used to seeing this much activity during the day.
    by LM 6/28/2011 1:19:08 AM


  • @RadioGuy gosh Ithink our John Cleese must write some of these
    April 11 2011
    UNSEALED FLOOD BARRIER PENETRATION

    "During investigations of flood barrier penetrations, a flood barrier sealing a diesel driven fire pump exhaust was found to be cracked. This exhaust pipe penetrates the west wall of the intake structure. Flooding through the penetration could have impacted the ability of the station's raw water pumps to perform their design accident mitigation functions.

    "This eight-hour notification is being made pursuant to 10 CFR 50.72 (b)(3)(v).

    "The penetration is at an approximate elevation of 1012 feet mean sea level (MSL). The river level has been less than 997 feet MSL since prior to December 1, 2010. The raw pumps are operable. There are not any indications of conditions that might result in a flood. Actions are in progress to plug the penetration."

    The NRC Resident Inspector has been notified.

    * * * UPDATE FROM ERICK MATZKE TO JOE O'HARA AT 1641 ON 4/20/11 * * *

    "This event is being retracted.

    "Additional review and evaluation determined that the seal flaw is above the station design flood level of 1014 feet mean sea level, and is therefore, not reportable."

    The NRC Resident Inspector has been notified.
    www.nrc.gov
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:19:28 AM

  • Nuclear plant operator skipped pipe check

    The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says it skipped a scheduled test of the plant's water pipes on Monday, shortly before it was forced to suspend a water recycling operation due to leaks.

    The utility ran the filtering system, designed to recycle contaminated water for use in cooling the reactors, for just 90 minutes on Monday before treated water was found leaking from unfastened pipes.

    The operator says it failed to check the 4 kilometers of piping as it had found no problem during an inspection more than 2 weeks ago.

    The company says it will review that decision.

    The utility is under pressure to commence the recycling system as the contaminated water may start overflowing around July 5th.

    Tuesday, June 28, 2011 08:04 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/28/2011 1:21:15 AM

  • @Edano but was it 'running' at the time the shareholders meeting started....
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:24:19 AM

  • @Elaine Kirk : in fact, the shareholders want a working energy company rather than a runnung or non-running zeolithe mashine. they must be desperate.
    by Edano 6/28/2011 1:26:49 AM

  • tweeters are questioning the Itabashi first school entry here and can you blame them , seriously iffy and yes there is a pool but they are told the danger is small mmmmmm
    translate.google.com
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:33:18 AM

  • Print
    TEPCO (9501) on June 28 held a general meeting of shareholders at 10:00 am in Tokyo. Katsumata, permanent chairman of the Chair at the beginning, and then apologized to the first nuclear power plant accident in Fukushima "go all out to play a stable supply of electricity is our mission," he said. Together, along with compensation for nuclear damage compensation system "to respond quickly and fairly," he said.
    translate.google.com
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:38:31 AM

  • Emotional shareholder demands Katsumata step down immediately as chair of Tepco meeting, but motion is defeated by a majority show of hands.
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:40:13 AM

  • Tweet-HirokoTabuchi Hiroko Tabuchi
    Shareholder: "Do you understand that lives have been lost? That the world will never be the same? Who will take responsibility?"
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 1:41:32 AM

  • TEPCO delayed disclosing rising radiation levels at plant. www.asahi.com
    by LM 6/28/2011 1:56:32 AM

  • back for awhile hi to all
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:00:28 AM

  • @dean greetings
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 2:01:24 AM

  • tweet - HirokoTabuchi Hiroko Tabuchi
    Tepco execs reading out prepared answers. Gist: no probs in company response at Fukushima. Survived quake but tsunami was unprecedented.
    by Elaine Kirk 6/28/2011 2:06:43 AM

  • @dean, did you find my-email from last night? Is the doc okay?
    by Peter Melzer 6/28/2011 2:06:54 AM

  • @Peter.. let me go check... one moment
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:09:00 AM

  • @ peter.. I clicked the link that requested access
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:10:56 AM

  • @dean, and you should be able to open and edit the doc. Tell me if it does not work.
    by Peter Melzer 6/28/2011 2:12:05 AM

  • ok
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:12:46 AM

  • We're sorry, but we were unable to send the message.

    Please contact the owner directly. .... @ Peter this is what the message was just now
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:13:30 AM

  • @dean, strange, the link should open the doc. I send again, this time as an attachment. Just a sec.
    by Peter Melzer 6/28/2011 2:14:50 AM

  • ok ty Peter
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:16:08 AM

  • docs.google.com @all.. probably old news.. NRC ACTIVATES INCIDENT CENTER TO TRACK CALHOUN
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:17:57 AM

  • @dean, done. It is a pdf-file. I can also send it as text format. Let me know.
    by Peter Melzer 6/28/2011 2:17:59 AM

  • reading now Peter ty
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:18:25 AM

  • two comments... in the long paragraph in section 1 there are two "within four hours",,, and in that same paragraph next sentence I would remove "seem to have"..
    by dean 6/28/2011 2:26:42 AM

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