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  • well, this will be interesting ......
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:07:07 PM

  • Elaine is probably correct. Given they cannot get in there to fix things related to trying nitrogen injection I wonder just what they plan on for 3 now, other than hopefully increasing the water injection if the filters work okay.
    by Markfm edited by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:08:53 PM

  • www.houseoffoust.com

    talking about data: there is an important thing i noticed: after opening the doors of #2, the torus radiation B decreased significantly. so i guess they vented it thru the doors (without harm to human health, of course).

    by Edano via Houseoffoust edited by Edano 6/29/2011 2:09:30 PM

  • When they opened the doors all radioactive particles were intercepted by the magic cleaning fairies.
    by Markfm edited by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:10:45 PM

  • re. Reactor buildings covers: I can't find the link now but I read recently about the plan to cover all reactors 1, 3 and 4 with a temporary cover and later on they will install a more robust cover which they usually use every time they do inspections or refuelling operations where it is required to remove the top head of the RPV and expose the fuel. The plan might be on TEPCO's English version website, IAEA website or JAIF website. I'm not sure.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/29/2011 2:14:47 PM

  • @Markfm right now i am working on a mashine that transmorphes radionuclids in well smelling substances. yesterday i received a request from tepco, they ordered rose aroma, and they don't care about the costs.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:18:24 PM

  • Hmmm from this pdf www.meti.go.jp 3.4 times the amount of xenon-133 was released from the 4 units, as all noble gases were released from Chernobyl, according to UNSCEAR. This is without krypton.
    by Bobby1 6/29/2011 2:18:57 PM

  • i told them to wait, next week i get it shipped.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:19:24 PM

  • i am getting confused if this is news or olds:

    TEPCO forced to halt water treatment system again
    22:26
    TOKYO, June 29, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp

    seems NEWS ...
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/29/2011 2:22:41 PM

  • @Edano it's future news
    by bo 6/29/2011 2:23:31 PM

  • Awesome -- insert radioactive waste, it comes out smelling like roses :)
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:23:51 PM

  • @bo : past future ?
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/29/2011 2:23:58 PM

  • @Edano: those who don't remember...are condemned...Oh look! TEPCO is starting water treatment!
    by bo 6/29/2011 2:24:42 PM

  • They started the filter until they stopped it. It either leaked or the filter absorbed too many radioactive particles. The prior two sentences are repeated, an infinite "do loop"
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:24:51 PM

  • maybe this is a time warp.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:24:55 PM

  • @Edano alternate every 8 hours until the public gives up :-)
    by lillymunster 6/29/2011 2:24:58 PM

  • Whoops, you blinked -- they stopped it again.
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:25:09 PM

  • Fortunately for TEPCO, that is just how long the memory cycle of the media is.
    by bo 6/29/2011 2:26:06 PM

  • do
    filter
    sleep
    leak
    loop
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:27:19 PM

  • TEPCO strategy mapped out in five lines -- I like it.
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:27:46 PM

  • Here's the report on the accumulated water treatment and treated water injection time line according to TEPCO's latest report:

    "- From 8:00 pm on June17, we started operation of water treatment of
    accumulated water at accumulated water treatment facility.
    - At 9:56 am on June 22, we started transferring accumulated water in
    turbine building of Unit 2 to central waste treatment facility building.
    - At 4:20 pm on June 27, the operation of circulation injection cooling
    was initiated by injecting water from the filter water tank as well as
    usage of the treated water regarding water injection to the reactor. At
    5:55 pm, since we confirmed a leakage from the pipe which supplies water
    from treated water tank to injection pump of reactor, we stopped
    supplying treated water. Subsequently, we have implemented measures
    against the leakage at pipe joint. At 2:36 pm on June 28, we started
    operation of supply pump for treated water, and resumed the operation of
    circulation injection cooling at 3:55 pm.
    - At around 3:00 pm on June 28, water blot was confirmed at the outlet
    flange of the processing transfer pump of the accumulated water
    treatment system, and a saucer was installed at 3:45 pm. After that, no
    increase of the blot has been confirmed.
    - At 8:10 am on June 29, (two) minute holes were confirmed at the hose for
    the injection cooling system of the accumulated water treatment system,
    and we temporally repaired them. At 10:59 am, we replaced the pipe with
    a new one while operation of the processing transfer pump was suspended.
    We started to operate circulating injection cooling at 1:33 pm.
    - At around 9:30 am on June 29, water leakage was confirmed at the drain
    of lower part of the primary storage tank for water desalinations
    reverse osmosis membrane concentrated water in the accumulated water
    treatment system. We stopped the leakage by installing a drain cap at
    10:30 am.
    - Since an alarm showing water leakage was sounded in the On-site Bunker
    Building at 2:49 pm, the accumulated water treatment system was stopped
    at 2:53 pm.
    - From 9:40 am to 3:29 pm on June 28, we injected fresh water to the
    reactor well (unit 4) and temporally dry separation pool for environment
    improvement (reduce radio active dose) on 5th floor reactor building of
    unit 4." www.tepco.co.jp

    If you read the rest of the report you'll find two more incidents that apparently haven't been reported on the news yet.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/29/2011 2:28:30 PM

  • Can I ask a Calhoun question? Is this the dry cask storage facility? bojack.org (It's from this video: www.youtube.com)

    by bojack54 via Bojack.org 6/29/2011 2:29:05 PM

  • @bojack54 I read that the dry cask storage facility is underground. I'm not familiar with Calhoun's plant design so I can't be of much more help there.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/29/2011 2:30:47 PM

  • I loved "and a saucer was installed at 3:45 pm." Putting out the buckets to catch the leaks...
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 2:31:33 PM

  • @bojack54 yes that is the modular dry cask block below the arrow. It is the thing with the 5 white doors.
    by lillymunster 6/29/2011 2:31:49 PM

  • @bojack54 :i think we're doing all the nuke disasters here, including area 49.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:31:51 PM

  • fuku will not be enough

    Shareholders reject anti-nuclear proposals at Japanese utilities

    OSAKA, June 29, Kyodo

    Shareholders rejected anti-nuclear proposals at the annual general meetings of three Japanese power utilities Wednesday following a similar development at Tokyo Electric Power Co. on Tuesday.

    Some shareholders called for withdrawing from nuclear power generation in meetings for Kansai Electric Power Co., Tohoku Electric Power Co. and Chugoku Electric Power Co. amid heightened safety concerns following the Fukushima nuclear crisis, triggered by the March 11 quake and tsunami.

    Their management leaders defended their nuclear power generation plans with anti-nuclear proposals voted down at their longest-ever shareholders' meetings.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:38:53 PM

  • Thanks. It's interesting that the Google satellite view doesn't show the Calhoun dry cask building at all: maps.google.com If anybody has a basic diagram of where everything sits at Fort Calhoun, I'd love to see it. I have the generic PWR drawing, but am trying to picture what is sitting where in relation to the "river." We return you now to your regularly scheduled programming...
    by bojack54 6/29/2011 2:39:39 PM

  • About 90 more homes to be encouraged to evacuate

    About 90 more households around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant are likely to be urged to evacuate due to high radiation levels in their areas.

    The houses are in 3 districts in Date City not designated as evacuation zones but in areas where accumulated levels of radiation are expected to exceed the threshold of 20 millisieverts a year. Date is about 60 kilometers from the troubled plant.

    The government is to consider designating which houses in these districts will need to be evacuated depending on local radiation levels.

    Designated residents will receive state support for relocating, including the provision of substitute homes.

    On Tuesday night, officials explained the evacuation system to about 400 residents.

    One resident asked whether households not recommended to evacuate will receive any public support. Another asked why there is no need for everyone in the districts to evacuate.

    A 21-year-old mother said she feels the designation system is unfair, adding that she is full of anxiety about the possible impact of radiation on her child.

    Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:43 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:42:05 PM

  • @bojack54 I was going to make a marked up photo. I don't have the PWR drawing? If you can send me a link or email me the drawing it would fill in the missing info so I can make a better labeled photo.
    by lillymunster 6/29/2011 2:44:14 PM

  • "encouraged to evacuate" ?
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:44:32 PM

  • @Edano encouraged to evacuate = we will make it as miserable and hard as possible to discourage you from doing so while maintaining that we "did something"
    by lillymunster 6/29/2011 2:45:51 PM

  • sounds like : it is better for you to move away, but we will not pay.
    by Edano 6/29/2011 2:46:56 PM

  • @Edano It says they will receive assistance relocating. People can see how hard it has been on the evacuated.
    by lillymunster 6/29/2011 2:49:12 PM

  • Hot day stokes power overload fear
    Demand in Tepco's service area reaches 93% of supply capacity search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 6/29/2011 2:52:57 PM

  • That METI document indicates the total radioactivity release from Fukushima is over 2x Chernobyl. Still not sure of the time frame.
    by Bobby1 6/29/2011 2:57:16 PM

  • TEPCO restarts new cooling system
    The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant restarted its new reactor cooling system on Wednesday after fixing faults in the hosing.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company was forced to suspend the system's operation earlier in the day after plant workers detected water leaking from 2 holes in the hosing.

    On Monday, TEPCO halted the system after 90 minutes of operation due to water leakage from a displaced joint connecting plastic hoses.

    The system was restarted on Tuesday afternoon, but more leaks from another joint were found.

    After the series of leaks, TEPCO says it will look at ways to strengthen the system's hosing.

    Also on Wednesday, workers found water leaking from a storage tank for decontaminated water. www3.nhk.or.jp Morning all! Found this just now, but probably old already!!
    by LM 6/29/2011 2:58:03 PM

  • @bojack54 "Google satellite view doesn't show the Calhoun dry cask building at all"

    That's because the Google image is dated from April, 2004.
    by estacion 6/29/2011 2:58:15 PM

  • @LM : no, this is old. it is halted again. english.kyodonews.jp 22:25
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/29/2011 2:59:11 PM

  • @Edano startstopstartstopstartstop
    by Panserbjorne9 6/29/2011 2:59:30 PM

  • @Edano Oh well..it figures!
    by LM 6/29/2011 2:59:55 PM

  • No more problems, since they place saucers under leaks. Nothing to see, move along...
    by Markfm 6/29/2011 3:00:22 PM

  • imagine they run out of duct tape ...
    by Edano edited by Edano 6/29/2011 3:02:15 PM

  • @Bobby1 "That METI document indicates the total radioactivity release from Fukushima is over 2x Chernobyl. Still not sure of the time frame."
    Could you elaborate?
    by estacion 6/29/2011 3:02:50 PM

  • @Edano That would be catastrophic.
    by Pedro Jesus 6/29/2011 3:02:54 PM

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