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Later dean
by bo 7/9/2011 3:04:20 PM

@dean Exactly. I figure that about the best we can do for now is slip down the food chain a few giant steps.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:04:52 PM

If we want our food to be free of contaminants, then stop spraying sewage sludge on our farmland. I can't think of a more efficient way to spread radionuclides, heavy metals, and a whole host of other chemicals into our food. vimeo.com
by Bobby1 7/9/2011 3:07:01 PM

Gosh, wonder if Fox News and other Murdoch properties in the US have engaged in such activities?
by bo 7/9/2011 3:07:31 PM

@LM , I believe the pectin idea is sound. It may also be the reason for nuts being cesium-magnets. As edano mentioned earlier, wild boar meat and venison are still contaminated above the legal limits in Germany. Why? Deer and boars love acorns and chestnuts which accumulate Cs.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:07:51 PM

@Peter That's incredibly interesting. I had no idea about nuts. I'm going to have to pay attention to where I get mine from. Thanks!
by LM 7/9/2011 3:10:11 PM

I was just looking over the last round of Berkeley NUC testing, and while they shut down the air testing on the 1st after finding nothing for so many tests, milk is still not clean of cesium isotopes. This led me, as I was fixing myself a grilled cheese sandwich to cheese: concentrated milk. I wonder what California cheese testing would show.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:10:15 PM

@bo Oh no! Do you think? ;)
(The probably honed those skills here.)
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:11:21 PM

@RadioGuy what's good for the goose.....is good for the gander. (Elliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner.....)
by bo 7/9/2011 3:12:01 PM

haha, a friend once brought me chocolate from ukraine, i did never eat it. i have no geiger counter at home. ;)
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:15:01 PM

@Edano I spent a few days in Semipalatinsk and had no choice but to eat. It seemed unwise, but it was four days. I was hungry.
by bo 7/9/2011 3:16:43 PM

@bo it seems to me you are always close to radiation ?
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:17:41 PM

Doh!
by bo 7/9/2011 3:18:51 PM

radioaffinity
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:19:59 PM

@Edano I have been working in hibakusha communities, mostly from nuclear testing, for several years. These all remain dangerous places.
by bo 7/9/2011 3:20:02 PM

take care, bo !
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:21:12 PM

Fortunately I have figured out that a few drinks wards off the radiation. Or the awareness of the radiation. One or the other. I forget which.
by bo 7/9/2011 3:21:15 PM

@Edano ty
by bo 7/9/2011 3:21:51 PM

maybe the chinin drinks do it (gin tonic). :)
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:22:38 PM

Govt., TEPCO draw roadmap to reactor decommission

A roadmap toward decommissioning of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant indicates that the removal of melted nuclear fuel rods at the plant may begin in 10 years.

NHK has obtained the mid- and long-term roadmap which was presented when officials from the operator of the Fukushima plant, government officials in charge of nuclear safety, and manufacturers of nuclear reactors met last week.

The draft roadmap drawn up by the government's Nuclear Safety Commission and Tokyo Electric Power Company says they tentatively set a target date to begin removing fuel rods that melted and fell to the bottom of the reactor.

The work is considered to be the most important phase in the decommissioning process. The roadmap indicates that removal will start in 2021 if technology essential for the work has been developed before that.

The timeline is believed to have been set based on measures taken following the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States.

But unlike the US case, as reactor containment vessels were damaged at the Fukushima complex, they need to be fixed and filled with water.

The roadmap shows that reactor buildings could be finally demolished and cleared away after the removal of melted fuel rods is completed, and that it will possibly take dozens of years.

Saturday, July 09, 2011 13:49 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:23:51 PM

@RadioGuy Berkeley is not testing for tellurium-129m and -129, which is as abundant as cesium now. They test for Te-132, which decayed long ago.
by Bobby1 7/9/2011 3:24:46 PM

ooh, i love this sentence: " if technology essential for the work has been developed before that."
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:25:29 PM

I'm clicking my ruby slippers.
by bo 7/9/2011 3:26:05 PM

they want to fix the rpv and fill them with water ? or do they mean the lightbulbs ?
by Edano 7/9/2011 3:27:37 PM

@RadioGuy, my bet is still on MUSHROOMS. If I lived in Northern Cal, I'd go out in the woods come Fall and collect some, dry them and put them under the counter. You may be surprised what you will find!
Since mushrooms keep regrowing if you cut them, you can develop an ongoing study in your patch.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:29:32 PM

@Bobby1 I know. I have a love-hate relationship with them. At least they were doing testing, but I was never completely sure how solid it was.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:31:55 PM

@RadioGuy Deaths in Berkeley, CA are up 22% since Fuku compared to the same time period in 2010.
by Bobby1 7/9/2011 3:34:05 PM

@Peter Melzer Not only for the mushrooms' natural radsponginess, but because it's yet another outlet for concentrated cow accumulation, in the composted (but not decontaminated) manure they use for growing.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:35:21 PM

@Bobby1 Wow. That's a remarkable stat. Across the board deaths?
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:35:44 PM

@Edano , remember the Milka hazelnut chocolate scare? www.strahlentelex.de
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:36:49 PM

@RadioGuy Yeah... it looks like the Bay area, Seattle and Boise are the hardest hit areas for deaths.
by Bobby1 7/9/2011 3:36:59 PM

@RadioGuy , shroom would sure make a nice bioassay for radioaccumulation.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:40:02 PM

@Peter Melzer I can see it now: "SHOCK: Radiation Hotspot Detected Under Radio DJ's Sink"
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 3:41:29 PM

@Edano , at least Schweppes tastes nice.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:44:13 PM

@RadioGuy , heh, heh! :)
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:45:43 PM

Tatami time all. Ashita mata.
by bo 7/9/2011 4:08:54 PM

Nite Bo! @all Thanks for the fun conversation this morning. Off to get on with my day..be back later.
by LM 7/9/2011 4:11:04 PM

@LM it was my pleasure!
by bo 7/9/2011 4:14:20 PM

@bo hello and goodbye :(
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 4:16:40 PM

@elainekirk have a good one. I'm going to dream of a radiation free food supply!
by bo 7/9/2011 4:18:27 PM

@bo @all This is something we all suspected but dreaded that we'd have to deal with at some point. Now is probably the time. We should probvably start compiling personal mitigation processes: what to buy when, when to stop buying it, what to buy never, what to do to minimize absorption and maximize excretion. That sort of thing. Fukushima radiation is not going away in our lifetimes. The later we start acting on what we know, the 'too late'r it becomes.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 4:30:37 PM

Hi everyone. RadioGuy, yesterday when I was grocery shopping I started looking on the labels, not only for the country of origin but the area. Its a tough one though. The fruits and veggies coming from the states are marked USA,and as I really don"t want to get stuff grown in the pacific north west, I just avoided them. I think we are all going to have to start growing our own stuff.
by Jo 7/9/2011 5:01:20 PM

@Jo Big Agro is probably already hard at work writing new food labeling laws to make it easier to hide this, like the law that allows GMO ingredients without labeling. They'll probably be slipped in at midnight on a Friday night and voted first thing Monday am before anyone has a chance to read or take comments from constituents.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 5:09:23 PM

I've eliminated all US-grown food from the diet except bread, bacon and eggs. Those foods will become widely contaminated starting this fall.
by Bobby1 7/9/2011 5:15:58 PM

Yep sad but true. Our governments and elected officials have failed us completely. I am not sure if it was always this bad, or with access to the internet we have become better informed.
by Jo 7/9/2011 5:18:55 PM