Japan Earthquake

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Nuclear accidents that are increasingly happening worldwide prompted researchers to conduct numerous investigations with the aim to reduce the presence of biologically harmful radionuclides in animal food. Binding and immobilization of radioisotopes in the digestive tract of animals and their elimination, in the case of alimentary radiocontamination, are of extreme significance for meat production. This study aims to present a set of measures necessary for protecting animals in emergency conditions to obtain radionuclide-free products. The procedures to be applied are divided into basic and special protective measures. Special attention is paid to special protective measures, in which we recommend two procedures: change of animal diet composition and use of a radioprotector. Their application might reduce distribution of 137Cs in meat by about 90%. These protective measures and technological procedures for meat processing might contribute to obtaining radionuclide-free meat products and subsequently, protection of humans from radioactive contamination.
by dean 7/9/2011 2:25:48 PM

@Bo How are you handling the food situation? Are they at least labeling products from that area? I must admit that I wouldn't touch an imported Japanese foodstuff right now.
by LM 7/9/2011 2:25:52 PM

have to check up on what a "radioprotector is" may be useful in japan
by dean 7/9/2011 2:26:36 PM

This is the source for my earlier comment on mox: "About 30% of the plutonium originally loaded into MOX fuel is consumed by use in a thermal reactor. If one third of the core fuel load is MOX and two-thirds uranium fuel, there is zero net gain of plutonium in the spent fuel." cited from en.wikipedia.org
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:28:15 PM

@Dean Interesting. I wonder if they are aware of this science? Unfortunately we're 4 months out. I can't believe they're talking about 'mulling' over testing.
by LM 7/9/2011 2:29:09 PM

not sure LM but we could do some research and pass on to those like bo who may be able to disseminate the information

by dean 7/9/2011 2:30:00 PM

@dean please do! @LM we are being vigilant, but there is only so much we can do on the consumption end. Things are labeled in terms of where they come from. Most of our produce here in Western Japan comes from this region. Much of the beef comes from Australia. We are trying to eat "low on the food chain" in other words not so much meat or fish, but fish is hard to avoid when you are out. We try to eat mostly fish from the Seto Island Sea, which Hiroshima is beside. This sea gets less ocean currents, and the fish are smaller and fresher. But we can't really hide from the food supply here. Our fears are that a lot of contaminated food will end up in processed foods, so we stay away from them.
by bo 7/9/2011 2:30:27 PM

@LM Radiation in Japan: Katsuo (Skipjack Tuna) Haul Is Zero at Onahama Port in Fukushima
ex-skf.blogspot.com
There have been anecdotal but credible "rumors" for about two months that there are unusual increases of unusual kind of fish in ports outside Fukushima - Tokyo's Tsukiji Port, and a port in Mie Prefecture for example. The rumors say the boats are catching fish off the coast of Fukushima and hauling them at a distant port, and the fish are being sold as "caught in the ocean near that port", which is perfectly legal.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:30:36 PM

@dean Great idea!
by LM 7/9/2011 2:31:24 PM

@ Peter, the balance equation on using mox seems fruitless.. I think in the beginning the proliferation was a big deal and .. japan was thinking they were going to be dealing with a crisis of spent fuel storage so they thought. hey,, we'll ship fuel to ENGLAND or FRANCE...
by dean 7/9/2011 2:32:06 PM

@dean , I can only imagine that the mean stuff like chelators, e.g. citric acid or EDTA, that can bind cations for detoxification.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:32:33 PM

@RadioGuy exactly. Not eating any katsuo!! Which is a shame, cause it is delicious!
by bo 7/9/2011 2:32:53 PM

@LM GoJ has already shown that, like any multinational corporation, it is more interested in protecting Brand Japan than people, its own or anyone eles's.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:32:54 PM

worthy of research @ Peter.. that article I posted was a first I've seen
by dean 7/9/2011 2:33:20 PM

www.irpa.net APPLICATION OF RADIORECEPTORS IN RADIATION PROTECTION
by dean 7/9/2011 2:35:48 PM

@Bo Sounds like smart precautions. @radioguy Yikes! I wish I could say that I was surprised. All of this makes me wonder if it wouldn't be the same here in California. Unfortunately I think it would be..especially since we provide most produce to a significant part of the country.
by LM 7/9/2011 2:35:56 PM

THE animals would probably suffer the side afffects but if it meant lower levels of contamination that would be good... also.. sounds like some technology needs to spring up on treating food before feeding the animals etc..
by dean 7/9/2011 2:36:43 PM

@LM I never heard of any farms here harvesting and incinerating all of those contaminated salad crops that were out in the fields during the last half of March. In fact, that whole blast of radiation was only relevant to "fringe alarmists" like us.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:39:39 PM

@radioguy You bet. They'd just raise allowed levels here as well.
by LM 7/9/2011 2:43:16 PM

I'd say there is getting ready to be a HUGE market opportunity for independent rad testing facilities. If this continues, as it will, at some point, producers are going to have to do something to reassure the public that their food is safe. If they truly want to save Brand Japan, they should already be planning for wholesale radiation monitoring across the board. They're ultimately going to need a RadFree seal to sell anything.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:44:06 PM

@RadioGuy no no no. You need to use short term thinking.
by bo 7/9/2011 2:45:00 PM

@dean @all I've heard about Prussian Blue and its use in helping with internal cesium contamination. I wonder if it can be used with animals as well and also wonder if they are at least capable of using it on humans in Fukushima. www.bt.cdc.gov
by LM 7/9/2011 2:45:24 PM

I think that each prefecture (spelling) should set up their own rad testing within.. get a lab for testing and whole body counters set up.. make it routine for the people there
by dean 7/9/2011 2:45:29 PM

Unless the international cover-up apparatus is REALLY good. We know they're good. We saw the whole Fuku story virtually disappear for over two months, but how long can they keep the Emporer's Clothes thing going, really?
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:46:05 PM

@bo LOL...oh...is THAT it? ;)
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:46:41 PM

bo.. the governors of the prefectures ,,, don't they have an administrative and health depart for each? are they like mayors? or governors
by dean 7/9/2011 2:46:53 PM

@RadioGuy they are sunning beside the beautiful river Denial. The most beautiful river in the entire world.
by bo 7/9/2011 2:47:04 PM

A piece of science long a go on chelators: www.jstor.org
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:47:15 PM

On an off-topic but related note, anyone loving the whole News of the World scandal as much as I am?
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:47:56 PM

....and something way more pertinent to the question at hand - PECTINES: universalhealingresponse.wordpress.com
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:48:49 PM

@dean Japan is a very centralized country. I'm not sure what infrastructure the governors have, but it would not be up to the task of monitoring the food supply, plus that would be a great departure. It may happen, but it would be a very new phenomenon. To be honest, where are the politicians who are opportunistic enough to get out in front of this parade, cause it is already leaving the barn.
by bo 7/9/2011 2:51:53 PM

@RadioGuy, the NYT got this started, did not they?

by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:51:56 PM

@bo , same in Germany, food standards are a federal issue.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 2:53:21 PM

@bo Between katsuo contamination and seaweed contamination, how will the Japanese replace dashi?
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:53:43 PM

@RadioGuy don't make me cry.
by bo 7/9/2011 2:54:14 PM

@Peter Cool! You mean those lovely pectin jelly beans can save our lives. Seriously...that's really interesting.
by LM 7/9/2011 2:55:29 PM

I expect to see more and more involvement of local government and public organizations in decisions relating to hazardous industry etc.. and the same for governors of states in USA.. there has been challenges raised recently by some state governors when it comes to them saying NO to a nuclear facility or MOX fuel systems etc....
by dean 7/9/2011 2:55:35 PM

@Peter Melzer The first I saw was this little story here.
www.nytimes.com British Tabloid Hacked Missing Girl’s Voice Mail, Lawyer Says
Tip of the iceberg, which slammed into NewsCorp as if it were the Titanic.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:57:38 PM

from what we've seen.. it sure doesn't look like nuclear or other industry is going away... coal plants.. nuc plants .. other industry that can be harmful to health etc... yet we monitor and say.. man that's too high.. emmissions etc.. but.. short of cleaning up emissions.. the industry at large needs to perhaps put more focus on TREATMENT,, food chain alternative treatments etc... so what we eat is the best it can be to be free from contaminants
by dean 7/9/2011 2:57:59 PM

They'll have so many lawsuits against them by the time the summer is over, NewsCorp will probably have to hire another floor's worth of lawyers. At least the BskyB purchase is probably now dead in the water.
by RadioGuy 7/9/2011 2:59:58 PM

@dean So true!
by LM 7/9/2011 3:00:08 PM

@RadioGuy.. another deal where the company will freak out over the SWING IN STOCK PRICE.. then start making decisions based on it
by dean 7/9/2011 3:01:21 PM

@RadioGuy , they had an investigative report on the princely hack earlier.
by Peter Melzer 7/9/2011 3:02:55 PM

another reason I want PUBLIC UTILITY companies to be taken off the stock markets... then they can worry on the more important thing.. lives..
by dean 7/9/2011 3:03:03 PM