Japan Earthquake

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www.ssd.noaa.gov
This satellite link never changes, just adds frames to the animation each hour, but seeing it in motion you can see the changes better. At the very end, in the last hour, you can see the storm wheel start to bite enough on Japan to gain some traction, beginning its turn to the North.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 12:09:04 AM

www.jma.go.jp
NE, then east:
by RadioGuy via Jma.go.jp 7/19/2011 12:09:37 AM

@all On Jan. 19th, 2011, Tepco made changes in the control rod pattern at Fukushima I-3 www.pref.fukushima.jp
by smoss 7/19/2011 12:10:36 AM

They adjusted the projection to make a somewhat sharper turn.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 12:10:43 AM

@RadioGuy and is the typhoon likely to comply with the new directive?
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:11:49 AM

@smoss how? I thought it was running on that date can they change whilst it running
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:13:03 AM

@lillymunster. Yup you really get the feeling that they just don't care.
by Cat 7/19/2011 12:13:25 AM

This looks really interesting. An International Review of Criticality Accidents search.orau.org
www.orau.org Another accident site
by Cat 7/19/2011 12:14:09 AM

@elainekirk I think we'll know in the next few hours how strongly it turns. If their projection is to hold, it should be at that 19/09 mark in 10 hours.

I'm struck by how meticulously the impact lines have been just below Daiichi. It's a very considerate typhoon. It doesn't want to alarm anyone unnecessarily.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 12:16:25 AM

@elainekirk Still translating...if you do a bulk translation the charts are lost...
by smoss 7/19/2011 12:16:51 AM

@lillymunster What do you suppose? August for pork? "We deeply regret not testing pork sooner. We only knew about the contaminated straw, so it was beyond our expectations that the pigs might be eating something contaminated too."
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 12:19:34 AM

@smoss oh that is weird, making control rod changes with the reactor full of fuel? We need to find out if that is a normal practice. I haven't read the doc yet but sounds like something not working right?
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:21:17 AM

@RadioGuy I'm guessing December. :-(
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:21:36 AM

@RadioGuy musnt alert people they would take efforts to remove themselves from danger and that would cause panic amongst tepco shareholders we musnt cause panic
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:23:41 AM

@Cat I do not think i dare read it as it is bedtime and I may have nightmares
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:24:30 AM

@RadioGuy Don't forget the chicken! Even if they're inside..the feed is suspect....not to mention the greenhouse shrooms were contaminated. Inside might not make much difference!
by LM 7/19/2011 12:45:14 AM

@elainekirk. And this is no better www.yomiuri.co.jp Fishermen land their catches in other prefectures to avoid the radiation stigma. I think I will have to try and collect some cheerful stories. Unfortunately my only hopefull, titled "Some Good News for a Change, proved to be the ANS countering their blues with gad tidings of power stations re-opened and new building projects., and encouraging their members to fight "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) among concerned audiences." Oh dear....
by Cat 7/19/2011 12:49:05 AM

@Cat @Cat oh dear indeed it really is getting beyong a joke
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:53:34 AM

Oh damn. They had workers up on turbine building 3 securing down those panels and they got dosed pretty good, even out in the open. ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:57:57 AM

'the 14mtr diameter oblong hole '
I either need sleep or that doesnt add up
.
the sheet was 16 x 5 but those sheets cant be for the holes we know are there because they are not 14mts and the end of the article says
In reactor 3's turbine building, TEPCO plans to plug two holes with sandbags. (The holes used to have pipes that collected rainwater from the roof.)
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:07:55 AM

To get an idea how bad radiation and foods like mushrooms will be. This was June of this year, someone tried to import dried mushrooms from Bulgaria full of Chernobyl radioactivity. Still bad decades later www.dailymail.co.uk
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:11:02 AM

Injury accident
- Around 10:06am on July 18, a worker of the partner company fell from the
distribution pole during the connection work of the optical cable near
the parking area of the station's main gate. He was transported to the
Iwaki Kyouritsu Hospital by the helicopter emergency medical service
(called "Doctor Heli").
www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:14:50 AM

I think they are talking about several leaks, a bif one from debris and several small ones cause by the plumbing being broken. Flat roof require drains in them to let the water run off, perhaps several were broken and they wish to block them off with sandbags. That is not a good idea as water will them collect on the roof which might lead to it's collapse.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:15:37 AM

*From 8:30 am on July 18, we started installation work of temporary roofing
as a countermeasure of rain water to aperture at rooftop of Unit 3 turbine
building.

*Around 10:06am on July 18, a worker of the partner company fell from the
height of about 3m during the connection work of the optical cable on the
distribution pole near the parking area of the station's main gate and he
was injured. He was transported to J village by service car. We requested
the helicopter emergency medical service (called "Doctor Heli") at 11:06
am. He was transported from multi purpose sports ground in Hirono town to
the Iwaki Kyouritsu Hospital by the Doctor Heli at 12:22 pm.
www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:17:06 AM

@all Just thinking out loud: What puzzles me about placing a protective panel over a hole in the roof of the turbine building of #3, comes down to what are they trying to protect inside the building? The rad levels have been to high to do extensive work, and the amount of rain water should actually be minimal compared to the volume being pumped into and then leaking from the reactor. Compound this with the high doses of radiation that the installation of the panel resulted in, they must be desperate to protect something, but what?
by smoss 7/19/2011 1:24:28 AM

@Ralph Unger Or run under the elaborately placed cover and down the 14 m hole.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:25:57 AM

I think it is just to keep the rain from adding to the contaminated water volume, as #3 actually has a roof on the reactor building.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:26:42 AM

@Radioguy, yep I cannot see what they did to stop that from happening.More sandbags?
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:27:31 AM

@Ralph Unger it does?
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:27:40 AM

That's what I figure, or to protect wherever the water would run to from the turbine building. It's very hot apparently.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:27:58 AM

Nope I was thinking of #2, so it does not make sense.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:28:20 AM

@elainekirk Heh. They took Edano's advice and got a helicopter. :-) Hope the guy is ok..
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:29:17 AM

Well the one thing we know about the holes in that turbine building were made by what came down from the R3 explosion, so it could be pretty much anything given we still have no clear picture of what happened in R3.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:30:37 AM

I just hope that all the water that will collect up there if they plug the leaks does not bring down the whole roof, it must be weakened already from the quake and then the debris.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:32:28 AM

@Ralph Unger good point on the water collecting on the roof. It is already structurally challenged. Now it has the weight of the roof panels and add a few feet of water?

@Radioguy, my money is on one of the concrete plug sections that fell through the roof.
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:32:40 AM

@smoss You have to wonder, eh? Of all the things in that disaster of a plant that they could have chosen to haphazardly but frantically quickly choose to protect.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:32:51 AM

@RadioGuy and dose 4 people in the process? Seemed like a low priority vs. risk.
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:33:32 AM

Maybe it is just the old "We gotta do SOMETHING" syndrome.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:33:34 AM

All of a sudden they were in this frenzied rush to protect R3. We all assumed, of course, they meant the reactor.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:33:53 AM

Some early stories I think even said reactor not turbine building.
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:34:36 AM

We look at R3 all the time. Who wouldn't try to protect that?
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:35:23 AM

But, no..... it's what? The turbine building?
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 1:36:31 AM

@all Quick translation of the document posted earlier that states: 1-19-2011, Tepco made changes in the control rod configuration in R3 (Fukushima-I) docs.google.com
by smoss 7/19/2011 1:36:40 AM

All the water in the turbine building came from the reactor, so whats to stop the rain from doing the same thing? @smoss were the changes so they could use MOX?
by Ralph Unger 7/19/2011 1:37:22 AM