
@Bobby1 : i doubt that.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:21:26 PM

@Peter Melzer I read something a while back where institutions were sending patients home very early when they used to keep them in the hospital. This was sending them out into public while they are still radioactive or shedding radiation. It seemed to be the same as other patients being sent home early, insurance companies don't want to pay for extra days in the hospital.
by lillymunster 7/24/2011 2:24:35 PM

@Peter Melzer : normally these clinics have large wastewater tanks.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:28:32 PM

@Peter Melzer : i don't work with radionuklides, but still i have a decontamination room in the basement for wastewater and have to pay yearly fees. there are inspections every 5 years and you have to self-inspect it half-yearly.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:34:11 PM

they say they want to obligate all clinics to work with tanks of fresh and waste water in the future. now this will be fun for little clinics ... :) hopefully i will be retired by then.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:36:13 PM

@Peter Melzer of course, if you want it, you always can release the soup. i could easily install a short-circuit to my system...
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:44:52 PM

Per Peter's suggestion this could be the hospital. If they had an isolated wastewater system in place and it needed replacing I could see someone deciding to stop using it quietly rather than replacing it.
by lillymunster 7/24/2011 2:48:11 PM

i can hardly estimate the impact on the environment. depending on the size of the clinic, ..... hmmmm.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:49:02 PM

i would suspect illegal professional disposal.
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:56:45 PM

false declarations ...
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:57:11 PM

dumping barrels in the night, maybe some time ago ...
by Edano 7/24/2011 2:58:07 PM

www.world-nuclear.org information article on nuclear medicine
by dean 7/24/2011 3:14:10 PM

very interesting topic... pharmaceutical waste streams, controls of international shipments of isotopes.. etc.. a study all in itself
by dean 7/24/2011 3:17:19 PM

yw Diane
by dean 7/24/2011 3:39:36 PM

@ Pedro.. I think you just came up with the waste song
by dean 7/24/2011 3:39:55 PM

@Pedro Jesus I will have your tune stuck in my head all day. :-)
by lillymunster 7/24/2011 3:45:28 PM

en.wikipedia.org @ all.. During the first 40 years that nuclear waste was being created in the United States, no legislation was enacted to manage its disposal.
by dean 7/24/2011 3:47:35 PM

@ES, go to this link, look for the 1 live event they have going, that will always be the current TBS cam stream.
www.youtube.comBTW, my solar cell phone charger showed up yesterday. So far it seemed to work well.
by lillymunster 7/24/2011 3:47:48 PM

QuakeAlert
DATE : 07/24/2011 17:07:10
TIME : 16 minutes ago
REG. : near the east coast of Honshu, Japan
MAG. : 5.1
DEP. : 49.8 km
ID : 124495
quakes.globalincidentmap.comby Edano 7/24/2011 3:51:56 PM

@ peter, I will say that in the very earliest days the knowledge base for waste handling was at it's infancy, the instrumentation to detect was less sensitive, in the day they either thought they would take care of it later or were ignormant as you say as to the affects
by dean 7/24/2011 3:54:05 PM

but.. unfortunately that's the way it's been for much of industrial waste, like the
chemical companies etc...and phosphate facilities with the sludge etc.
by dean 7/24/2011 3:55:27 PM

ah, now a full article
U.S., Japan to jointly study new technology to decontaminate large areasTOKYO, July 24, Kyodo
The United States and Japan will work together in researching new technology to remove radioactive materials from large areas around the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, a visiting senior U.S. official said Sunday.
As thousands of square kilometers require decontamination before evacuated people can return home, an ''extremely expensive'' task, research is needed to do so efficiently, effectively and economically, John Holdren, assistant to the president for science and technology, said in an interview with Kyodo News.
Holdren, who visited the Tokyo Electric Power Co. plant on Saturday, the highest U.S. official to have done so since the crisis erupted in March, said he discussed the matter as ''one of the areas of further cooperative research'' with Japanese officials during his visit to the country.
english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 7/24/2011 3:56:18 PM

@Peter Melzer I suppose that is where they discover which plants can survive would be interesting to know if npp's landscape with known absorbers
by elainekirk 7/24/2011 4:06:20 PM

@ Peter,,, arms race, biological warfare etc, government nuclear research and production added so much waste and the timeline schedule dictated just temp storage, wait until later mentality. I know from my career experience that back in the day there were requirements etc. and many thought they were doing the right things with burial sites etc. but they weren't so much on low, med hi waste, transuranics etc,,, liquid wastes... then after the end of the arms race and the facilities no longer needed.. they had a huge mess on their hands which exists today
by dean 7/24/2011 4:07:54 PM

Sunday news roundup done
www.simplyinfo.org Tweeted
by lillymunster edited by elainekirk 7/24/2011 4:20:16 PM

back in a bit
by dean 7/24/2011 4:23:15 PM

@lillymunster tweeted @Peter maybe plotting waste sites on a map would make it more 'real' for people . In fact all sites with radiation
by elainekirk 7/24/2011 4:23:33 PM

@lillymunster sampling by thawk
22nd #2
23rd #3
24th (today) #1
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 7/24/2011 4:26:46 PM

@Peter Melzer I did wonder with tepco having greenery whilst those who were taken to their homes for gathering few possesions describe a wilderness
by elainekirk 7/24/2011 4:47:19 PM