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@lillymunster I agree, and that concerns me terribly. We know the state of these reactors and the devastation they cause and we know our governments are unprepared for dealing with disasters. We're sitting ducks.
by es 7/25/2011 1:40:44 AM

@es : maybe the gov thinks it did it quite well. it tried to reduce the impact on economy, public health is not top priority.
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:42:12 AM

@Edano Maybe. But how much is Japanese beef worth today?
by es 7/25/2011 1:43:31 AM

the people did not panic and did not flee, so production continues as if nothing happened.
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:43:45 AM

@es : beef ? talk about cars and microelectronic and other hitec. no impacts.
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:44:32 AM

@Edano It'll come. They will continue to pay dearly.
by es 7/25/2011 1:45:05 AM

Hi everybody:
How much water level in #4 SFP currently is ?
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:47:03 AM

@estacion it was quite high yesterday, in the old normal ranges, IIRC around 6500? Will go grab the newest report.
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 1:49:12 AM

i think the impact on economy is some decimals lower than in chernobyl, where they abondoned industry parks and cities. my words are partly cinical on this, but i think the govj's priority was economy. the health costs will dilude over decades, just like the radiation.
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:50:02 AM

@lillymunster, I fear the same. Looking at all these old and ailing plants around us, it is bound to happen.

by Peter Melzer 7/25/2011 1:50:14 AM

@Peter Melzer US or France.
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:51:01 AM

Did you see this footage of last M6.2 near Daiichi. I have fear that it has had an impact on the pool.
www.youtube.com
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:52:18 AM

The lastest seconds are pretty interesting.
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:53:07 AM

@Peter Melzer It's easy to forget sometimes that we had the luxury of sifting looking for information from the comfort of a location not devastated by multiple natural disasters, but that's scant excuse. You'd assume with something as critical as nuclear power that they would know what resources they as GoJ were paying for, and would have a solid disaster plan that didn't start with "As highly unlikely as it is..." I understand devastation in communications and infrastructure from such a calamity. So why is it that none of the disaster plans we've seen seem to take this fact into consideration?
by RadioGuy 7/25/2011 1:53:18 AM

@lillymunster Thank you.
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:53:42 AM

@edano, in the US. My bet is on Browns Ferry, and I hope I am wrong.
by Peter Melzer 7/25/2011 1:54:09 AM

@estacion that isworrying the workers will be tweeting in about 6hrs we will know more then
by elainekirk 7/25/2011 1:55:51 AM

by Edano via Jma.go.jp 7/25/2011 1:56:39 AM

Today's plant stats: www.meti.go.jp

SFP #4 6600mm today
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 1:57:00 AM

by Edano via Jma.go.jp 7/25/2011 1:57:13 AM

a 5- at fuku
by Edano 7/25/2011 1:57:37 AM

@RadioGuy , good question. But I would not blame the Japanese government alone. After Katrina this country, which treasures its Christian traditions an values so highly, could not even pick up and burry its dead in a timely fashion.
by Peter Melzer 7/25/2011 1:57:55 AM

I remind you that the camera is attached very solidly TEPCO to its support.
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:58:00 AM

*TEPCO live
cam
by estacion 7/25/2011 1:58:39 AM

those creepers are growing at an alarming rate on fuku cam
by elainekirk 7/25/2011 1:59:10 AM

by Edano via Jma.go.jp 7/25/2011 1:59:49 AM

by Edano via Jma.go.jp 7/25/2011 2:00:52 AM

This can give us a idea of lateral displacement the entire buildings have suffered.
by estacion 7/25/2011 2:01:41 AM

@Peter Melzer Browns Ferry for the most complicated and large if it ever happens. Any of the really old BWR units could be "the one". The NRC keeps claiming how overly safe everything is, they start to sound like TEPCO some days.
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 2:02:06 AM

@Edano Thank you for the maps.
by estacion 7/25/2011 2:03:20 AM

@estacion : yw :- ) www.jma.go.jp very useful site
by Edano 7/25/2011 2:05:09 AM

www3.nhk.or.jp

Workers at Fukushima plant report harsh conditions

Workers involved in the restoration of the areas hit by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami and the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant say their working conditions have been harsh.

About 1,500 temporary workers of subcontractors hired by leading construction companies gathered in Tokyo on Sunday to discuss the situation.

A man who took part in the construction of emergency housing in Iwate Prefecture said he had been promised 20,000 yen, or 250 dollars, per day, but received only about one-third of the amount.

He said there were inadequate meals and workers had to sleep together 40 per room.

There were also reports about the conditions for those engaged in treatment of radioactive water and piping construction at the Fukushima plant.

The workers were forced to work without any explanation about the risk of radiation or any measures against heat strokes.

Another worker said he has received only half of the wages he had been promised for building temporary housing in Kesennuma, Miyagi Prefecture. He said he wants the government to do something about the unfair working conditions.

The organizers say these issues have not surfaced before because many workers find it inappropriate to complain when they think about the hardships of people in the disaster-hit areas.

Monday, July 25, 2011 09:51 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 7/25/2011 2:10:04 AM

80 bucks a day for such a work ? gosh !
by Edano 7/25/2011 2:11:18 AM

@lillymunster , I am guessing this because the probability risk assessments always claim the a melt-down will occur only once in ten-thousand years or less. In Fukushima four reactors in a row were devastated. Why? In part because they were built next to each other. At Browns Ferry we have got three under one roof as you say. Now, if that is not maximizing your chances!
by Peter Melzer 7/25/2011 2:12:40 AM

Trouble continues at Fukushima nuclear plant's water treatment system

TOKYO, July 25, Kyodo

A desalination device that forms part of the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant's key water decontamination system halted for a number of hours Sunday in the latest glitch at the plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said late Sunday.

The plant operator said it resumed desalinating decontaminated water to be recycled as coolant for troubled reactors with a backup device about seven and a half hours after the halt occurred around noon, while continuing to cool the reactors with water supplemented from a nearby dam.

While looking into the cause of the latest trouble, Tokyo Electric said it will also add piping for the system's cesium decontamination component made by Areva SA of France because the volume of flow has not reached the expected level. english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 7/25/2011 2:15:25 AM

@Peter Melzer true, it does increase the odds. I am still just stumped they were allowed to build like that.
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 2:19:38 AM

Mayor near Daini wants it turned back on, I think money is involved. :-) ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 2:33:34 AM

@lillymunster, the TVA throws a lot of weight in the South. I suspect a collusion of local politics and the federal government accomplished this. It must be noted that the TVA projects brought unprecedented wealth to the Southeast. Cheap energy, cheap labor, cheap land and tax incentives attracted numerous German and Japanese car manufacturers to a region with otherwise little work opportunity. Every human enterprise is related.
by Peter Melzer 7/25/2011 2:37:48 AM

Ugh. Saw someone post on twitter that yogurt was "safe" because the radiation would all be in the whey. ::headdesk::
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 2:40:06 AM

@lillymunster. Thanks so much for the Building a Citizen Testing System article. I posted to Tokyo Kids & Radiation FB page, as they were talking about their concerns on Friday.
by Mid Valley 7/25/2011 3:25:46 AM

@Mid Valley Sweet! I hope there is enough there for people to make contacts etc. It seems to be what is brewing in people's minds right now.
by lillymunster 7/25/2011 3:28:51 AM