Japan Earthquake

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by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:20:10 PM

going to get today's news roundup done quick here to clear those pages out of my stuff. Then start working on that.
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:20:41 PM

@Peter Melzer After looking every were ,I think that the moment in UK the Final destination for The vitrified waste is stored at the Sellafiled site.

The UK is now undertaking a site selection process to identify an appropriate Geological Disposal Facility as recommended by the Committee on Radioactive Waste Management www.copeland.gov.uk Committee On Radioactive Waste Management
The Committee On Radioactive Waste Management (CoRWM) was established as a response to the government public consultation - Managing Radioactive Waste Safely launched in 2001. CoRWM was asked by the Government in 2003 to make recommendations for the long-term management of the UK's higher activity wastes that would both protect the public and the environment, and inspire public confidence. www.ntec.ac.uk
by Majj 8/5/2011 8:22:09 PM

TEPCO to use new spray system to cool unit 3 ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:28:26 PM

@Majj how come none of that inspires confidence in me :(
our government committees are made up of 'experts' who know more about pocket lining and rectal dwelling than they do on their supposed specialism
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:29:01 PM

News roundup done
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:33:39 PM

@elainekirk US has the same problem. We end up with people heading agencies that are professional bureaucrats or at schmoozing politicians rather than someone who is an expert in that area.

by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:35:12 PM

@lillymunster now think about it tepco- why is #3 behaving differently?
Arent they clever thinking of core spraying, such a novel idea!
It really gets my goat when tepco try to come the 'Knights in shining armour' routine
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:38:31 PM

@Majj , thanks, :) So the UK does not know either what to do with the nuke left overs.
by Peter Melzer 8/5/2011 8:38:57 PM

@elainekirk Your Government only represents the interest of the big Corporations. Like Most of the world Governments. They are making a monstrous Dan in the Amazon jungle. Inundating hundreds of square kilometers of jungle Just to make electricity to rum mines that take minerals from the soil and export to China.....
by Majj 8/5/2011 8:39:19 PM

@elainekirk couldn't be the mox fuel, not not that. :-)
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:39:43 PM

@lillymunster experts and politicians are children whose daddies didnt want them wrecking the family business so they put them in the state nursery known as government when they reached adulthood
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:40:26 PM

@lillymunster mox..mox...
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:41:08 PM

@Peter Melzer They are probably in carrots with the American and Japan Government to eventually to send it to Mongolia or any other Corrupt Government that accept it ...
by Majj 8/5/2011 8:42:30 PM

Hay guys, interesting similarities... iangoddard.com
by Ian via Iangoddard 8/5/2011 8:45:07 PM

@lillymunster was just going to tweet roundup but wondered first if you had seen this from this morning rockhopper translated for me I willl get you original link
I asked rockhopper to translate this article news.livedoor.com to be absolutely sure that I had understood the google translation correctly
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TEPCO demands bill payment from a mushroom farmer who cant pay the bill, because mushroom sales went down to nothing. The farmer asked compensation. No from TEPCO, because 'it's just because of the fear of radiation, not actual harm done by radiation.' Then, the farmer asked to delay the electricity stop (because it will destroy his mushroom in greenhouse), but TEPCO said no to him. The doc from TEPCO said, no compensation for any damage due to electricity stop (because the farmer is supposed to pay, anyway) To complaints from the farmer, the TEPCO worker said, "Sue us. We will fight against you."
this is just one, there must be more like this.
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by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:46:16 PM

If this article is correct. The UK also store intermediate-level waste in the UK for long term management, for other coutrys........ "" The NDA's commercial transport subsidiary, International Nuclear Services, will be responsible for transporting the vitrified waste to destinations in Japan, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and Italy in its specially designed transport ships.
The program will see approximately 1850 containers of waste returned over a 10-year period, including some containers being returned in accordance with UK government policy on waste substitution whereby the UK returns a greater amount of high-level waste to the customer but retains a radiologically equivalent amount of low- and intermediate-level wasteintermediate-level waste "" www.world-nuclear-news.org
by Majj 8/5/2011 8:48:07 PM

www.houseoffoust.com

new radiation record in #1 drywell b [Sv/h]:

8/3 5:00 336
8/3 11:00 351
8/3 17:00 353
8/3 23:00 355
8/4 5:00 355
8/4 11:00 127
8/4 17:00 263
8/5 5:00 365
8/5 11:00 371
by Edano via Houseoffoust 8/5/2011 8:48:43 PM

@Ian brilliant - just my thinking but given the pattern on the pipe could that marking be left by fumes coming up from the ground? we feel certain there is a big ground fracture round there and it is a strange patterning for something leaking from the pipe

by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:49:34 PM

@Edano I saw that posted this morning. There seems to be a correlation between these and the new hot spots?
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:49:39 PM

@lillymunster have you sen my mushrooom post below I was hoping you may find room in the roundup for it
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:50:36 PM

@lillymunster yes, additionally there was a pressure drop in #1. all happened after the 6,5 earthquake on sunday.
by Edano 8/5/2011 8:50:58 PM

Ian your a genius :-) That could explain some of the other rust tinged things found that didn't quite seem to be water related rust.
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:51:06 PM

#1 should not lose pressure because they are pumping nitrogen in.
by Edano 8/5/2011 8:51:25 PM

@elainekirk I grabbed all the info from the mushroom post. Going to work up an independent article on it. I think that needs its own space and attention.
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:51:40 PM

@Edano right. After I get the hiroshima article etc. done I wanted to put something together on this and will need to make sure I have all the info corrent.
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:52:31 PM

corect
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 8:52:34 PM

@lillymunster thanks x I will go tweet roundup
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 8:52:54 PM

Thanks Elaine! And sorry about that tease on your spelling, I just thought it was a cute way to say what you did and didn't intend even the slightest degree of 'put down'. Hope you forgive my shortsightedness. :)
by Ian 8/5/2011 8:54:36 PM

Thanks lillymunste. Arnie's latest video seems to suggest that the staining down the pipe may be cesium, so these observations and the study I cite might add supplemental support.
by Ian 8/5/2011 8:57:40 PM

@Ian methinks 'tis good
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:02:47 PM

Trying to confirm the bomb drop time for Hiroshima. I think 8:15am? Can someone confirm I have it right en.wikipedia.org
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 9:02:49 PM

www.world-nuclear.org Waste Management for DUMMIES : The World-Nuclear Association Version: Radioactive wastes comprise a variety of materials requiring different types of management to protect people and the environment. They are normally classified as low-level, medium-level or high-level wastes, according to the amount and types of radioactivity in them.
The various radioactive isotopes have half-lives ranging from fractions of a second to minutes, hours or days, through to billions of years. Radioactivity decreases with time as these isotopes decay into stable, non-radioactive ones.
Three general principles are employed in the management of radioactive wastes:
concentrate-and-contain
dilute-and-disperse
delay-and-decay.
The first two are also used in the management of non-radioactive wastes. The waste is either concentrated and then isolated, or it is diluted to acceptable levels and then discharged to the environment. Delay-and-decay however is unique to radioactive waste management; it means that the waste is stored and its radioactivity is allowed to decrease naturally through decay of the radioisotopes in it. www.world-nuclear.org
by Majj via World-nuclear.org 8/5/2011 9:04:07 PM

The bomb was dropped on Hiroshima at 8:16 a.m. on August 6, 1945

Read more: wiki.answers.com
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:04:52 PM

Dilute-and-Disperse is TEPCO system
by Majj 8/5/2011 9:05:21 PM

Experts: Fukushima 'off-scale' lethal radiation level infers 100s millions dying . Fukushima nuclear power plant radiation recordings of external gamma radiation have been so high this week, they went off scale said veteran nuclear expert Arnie Gunderson on Thursday after the famous physicist, Dr. Chris Busby told the Japanese people this week that radioactive air contamination there now is 300 times that of Chernobyl and 1000 times the atomic bomb peak in 1963, possibly inferring that hundreds of millions of people are now dying from Fukushima radiation, including people in the United States.
If noticing unusual amounts of hair falling out, confusion, nose bleeds or other odd symptoms typical of radiation sickness, it might be due to the United States record high levels of radiation, now multiple times acceptable safety limits not only on the west coast, but also in other locations around the nation. www.examiner.com This article do not necessary corresponds to my opinion....
by Majj 8/5/2011 9:10:44 PM

@Majj dilute and disperse of the stuff tepco is churning out is not a safe strategy is it :(
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:13:45 PM

@Majj why did Busby tell the Japanese people that, I have to ask myself?
Why does Busby name his outfit to make it sound official?
How much did Busby get for his visit to Japan? was it expenses or more?
Why did the examiner use gunderson to hook readers in to the article?
I don't like Busby , you don't tell families they are likely to be wiped out!! and you certainly dopn't take a penny from families not even the bus fare to go and terrify them
I don't like Busby
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:19:10 PM

maybe busby is paid by the nuke industry to undermine anti nuke movement.
by Edano 8/5/2011 9:21:33 PM

@Ian have you sent gunderson your findings?
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:21:46 PM

@Edano now that I can believe, somebody is funding him and your suggestion fits
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:22:38 PM

@elainekirk they really know all the tricks, it would not suprise me.
by Edano 8/5/2011 9:24:20 PM

@Majj I think gunderson should be made aware of that article reading it again I think he could denmand they pull it as it does infer by default that he was responding to busby and in a way endorsing him . Glad Majj posted it
by elainekirk 8/5/2011 9:29:11 PM

I sent in a report on that Examiner article and put something in the comments. That kind of garbage just makes me fume. I am not even sure if she is quoting Busby correctly. then she goes on to claim 100s of millions in the US are going to die and ascribed the high rad in the pipe as a reason. ::headdesk::
BTW, anyone can send in a report on that article and if enough complain they might take it down.
by lillymunster 8/5/2011 9:30:18 PM