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  • @Edano and all the others if they found 1 in march how many are there now, plus the 13-15yr olds got a dollop I am waiting the translation .
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 11:37:14 AM

  • @elainekirk exactly. there must be more. children play in the sand, they breathe the dust. we always said that.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 11:38:56 AM

  • @Edano I am hoping that rockhopper and all of you can put together an English article we can spread there is also a doc on iwaki who distributted even though they were told to wait they gave out the iodine and awaited test results to say to start taking but the government didnt tell them results as you know so all those people had iodine but didnt take because government hid readings fronm prefecture admin kkisho2937mhalxw.blog60.fc2.com
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 11:41:45 AM

  • by Edano 8/11/2011 11:49:33 AM

  • @Edano I cant find a source code for the yomiuri article can you save it ?
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 11:56:13 AM

  • we are all slaves: the reality in iwaki and the power of tepco: www.taz.de very good article !
    by Edano 8/11/2011 11:58:40 AM

  • @Edano another one rockhopper says is relevant I will put all the links he has given me here with your yomiuri so we have them in one place
    www.j-cast.com
    t.co
    t.co
    t.co
    t.co
    the last one - the savechild- that has the links to the government pdf's if they can be grabbed
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 11:59:57 AM

  • now i got it: www.taz.de
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:03:33 PM

  • @Edano this is the translation from rockhopper terrible twitdoc.com
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:04:23 PM

  • by Edano via Savechild.net 8/11/2011 12:04:51 PM

  • well, the ICRP defined 100 mSv as safe and 50 mSv for children. bastards !
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:06:02 PM

  • @elainekirk this makes me sick.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:08:55 PM

  • they really say the iodine is to take after an exposure ? this makes no sense. you take iodine before the exposure. you cannot wait and say ey now i have 150 mSv now i need iodine. how stupid is this ?
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:12:10 PM

  • @Edano if lopez hadnt been so shocked to find it on safechild then tweeted about it again and again so when I logged in to twitter it was all I saw we may not have found out
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:13:15 PM

  • @Edano the purpose of safe iodine is to flood the thyroid so it doesnt take up the bad isn't it?
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:14:02 PM

  • @elainekirk : well i found it even on nhk.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:14:17 PM

  • @elainekirk yes.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:14:27 PM

  • after the exposure it is too late.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:16:06 PM

  • @Edano to be honest I dm'ed rockhopper said is it true and after a while he started finding all the stuff and telling me I had to go outside and cry
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:17:45 PM

  • Wow. I saw something last night about the readings being taken down but I just assumed the blog might have had the reading wrong. Yikes. I will get something written up after I take hubby to work. So they didn't give these kids iodine and one ended up with 35uSv or mSv?
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 12:19:39 PM

  • @Elaine, I still have all the notes on ICRP. It is still on my to do list. I need a clone. :-)
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 12:20:21 PM

  • @lillymunster yes and now they say there was no need for iodine because ICRP defined 50 mSv to be harmful. this is pervert !
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:21:16 PM

  • @lillymunster 35 milliSievert 4 years old
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:22:33 PM

  • The ICRP should be put on trial for crimes against humanity. This is just disgusting.
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 12:24:14 PM

  • @lillymunster the government removed the pdf and put one without the readings in its place have you read rockhoppers translations
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:25:34 PM

  • the 50 mSv threshold also counts for babies. imagine that.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:25:40 PM

  • @lillymunster @Edano the icrp are the english charity arennt they the ones who mmmm we can do a follow up on the icrp I meanwhile will contact the english fakecharity website that exposes 'charities' that are nothing more than arms length government agencies
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 12:27:45 PM

  • Edano, obviously that kind of level concentrated in the thyroid is different than a whole body thing. If there is anything you can add related to the medical implications that would be helpful for the write up.
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 12:30:12 PM

  • brb
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 12:31:17 PM

  • @lillymunster : the 35 mSv is the calculated exposure dose, a corresponding dose. it is not measured in the body. so it is an interpretation of the measuring. i don't think we will be able to see the basic measurings.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 12:51:43 PM

  • @Edano how many children have been measured and what were their readings? as I remember they were testing x number of people from each area and then using the results to find a medium to base calculations on so what the heck were the readings if they think 4yr olds would get that dose or am I showing a lack of understanding?...coffee time
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 1:02:53 PM

  • @elainekirk tis article www3.nhk.or.jp can only be found via the direct link now. it says >1000 children from fukushima prefecture have been checked. of course, these are not all children.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:06:50 PM

  • some details about the body counter: one measuring takes 10 min and costs 66 Euro. the thyroid detection threshold is 6 bq. www2.fz-juelich.de
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:09:03 PM

  • @you this is much cheaper and faster than i estimated. so i see no reason why they can't check the entire population of fuku.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:10:27 PM

  • @Edano are the counters available in Japan that is very good price
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 1:11:11 PM

  • @elainekirk as far as i know there is only one in fuku, which is ridiculous.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:12:08 PM

  • www.nuklear-medizintechnik.de workers with professional exposure to J131 have to be checked every 14 days !!! www.nuklear-medizintechnik.de

    by Edano via Nuklear-medizintechnik.de 8/11/2011 1:18:34 PM

  • @Edano well tepco were made to put a whole body counter in at fuku but there is no way that those workers get fortnightly checks I think they are still working through they have not done march -april completely yet PLUS I would like to see the one at fuku because a couple of weeks ago a worker had to travel across country to have a wbc sent by tepco
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 1:29:14 PM

  • the shielding steel is really taken from pre WW2 ships because it is not contaminated with radionuclids. wow we live in a crazy world ! we opened pandora's box ! www.isf.kit.edu
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:34:28 PM

  • @Edano, what is the image with Japanese text and a section highlighted in red?
    by lillymunster 8/11/2011 1:36:21 PM

  • @Edano yes there is a much bigger picture
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 1:36:37 PM

  • they measured 94 returning tourists from japan in berlin: 30% had higher radiation than normal. www.berlinonline.de
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:36:57 PM

  • @lillymunster the doc about the 4 yo measuring they deleted from the server.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:37:58 PM

  • @lillymunster is it in the translation? is that the bit on the child that was removed in the second version?
    by elainekirk 8/11/2011 1:38:20 PM

  • ok, a body counter counts activity in kEV. this is recalculated in Bq and again transformed into exposure dose in Sv.
    by Edano 8/11/2011 1:39:42 PM

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