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  • That was @Edano-san!
    by es 8/30/2011 11:04:47 AM

  • i will go for tepco pr job.
    by Edano 8/30/2011 11:05:24 AM

  • @elainekirk In yesterday afternoon's (August 29, 2011(PM)) Cabinet Press conference Edano had one point to report concerning food shipments - I found it impossible to catch what product was being referred to but I understood that shipment restrictions were being put on something concerning citrus. Have you heard any more about this? I've only seen Asahi mention immature satsumas? in this: mytown.asahi.com
    by es 8/30/2011 11:09:06 AM

  • @es I gathered it was the plum harvest but I will go ask
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:10:03 AM

  • And this is why Tepco should not have been allowed to make comment on the workers death!! they are not trusted and with good reason!!
    30 TEPCO announced that a mistake in the publication of results of 94 measurements of radioactive material around the power plant after an accident in Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It's mainly due to calculation errors and inaccuracies, and units of the table when you post.
    translate.google.com
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:13:03 AM

  • Worker Died of Acute Leukemia, TEPCO Said in Aug 30 Press Conference
    But the doctor assured the company that the death had nothing to do with having worked at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.
    The unnamed worker died in early August, after having worked at Fukushima I for about a week. TEPCO's Matsumoto says the company does not know where the worker had worked before he came to Fukushima I. He's from one of TEPCO's 1st-tier subcontractors.
    Since the death has nothing to do with having worked in Fukushima I Nuke Plant, TEPCO is not going to track the worker's past work history or conduct further investigation. TEPCO will not release personal information about the worker, either.
    The radiation exposure of the worker was 0.5 millisievert external radiation, and zero internal radiation for the duration of his work at Fukushima I. ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by Majj 8/30/2011 11:13:53 AM

  • @Majj a man is dead and all tepco do is cover their own backs!! they never even express sorrow or offer sympathy to his family. Tepco stink
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:20:04 AM

  • @elainekirk TEPCO is not human , has no feelings . Is just a profit machine. They don't care for one employ and they don't care for the whole of the Japanese population. If a employ show any kind of feelings it is immediate substitute. We have to keep in mind that if you are higher in this kind of Corporation, is because you have show many times that you are total committed with the company and has no personal feelings. From the beginning they can separate the "good" workers and the "Bad ones. In the end in the top you have only BASTARDS .
    by Majj 8/30/2011 11:30:39 AM

  • @Majj Agreed
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:38:34 AM

  • good morning, I feared that sooner or later we would have a fatality. I find the circumstances highly astounding and mystifying. I worked in a controlled zone for many years every summer while in school. The regs required a physical every time I started the job. If that man had worked there for only a week, the tepco should have discovered the developing leukemia from the get-go, and he would have not been allowed on the premises. This case demonstrates an incredible negligence of health management.
    by Peter Melzer 8/30/2011 11:41:24 AM

  • @All hi! Talas has finally made a move, now tracking northwest as predicted, this makes forecasters a little more confident in its position and crossing point of Japan. Models are still very jumpy though they do provide a large spread on crossing location, the Latest JTWC track map represents close to consensus crossing the system over the coast of Tokai (link to JTWC: www.usno.navy.mil ). The modeled tracks though indicate and interesting spread, NOGAPS is the western lier crossing the storm over the coast at southern Kyushu while GFS ensemble(multi run compiled data model) is the eastern lier crossing Talas over the coast of the Chiba peninsula east of Tokyo. @Maji posted this link earlier, www.eosnap.com a quote from this on Talas' wind field "The area of 30kt winds or more ranges up to 600 km (370 mi) from the center and the area of 50kt winds or more ranges up to 190 km (120 mi) from the center".... it's big....enough said! In the end doesn't matter really where it ends up, winds will affect much of Japan, the 72hr wind field @TSR shows the entirety of the situation as forecast( Link: www.tropicalstormrisk.com -sorry if it doesn’t work!). Ok to talk frankly on the situation, it's obviously not good for Japan or the Fuku NPP to have this sort of thing rolling by, it's will cause trouble and more loss to a nation that's already lost so much this year. What it won't do is blow reactor buildings over(don't quote me there-remember TEPCO built these things), it will however disrupt any efforts being made to bring the situation under control, depending on how it plays out if forecasting prevails they could see winds above 30kts for 24-36 hours. Depending when they call work off for safety(what wind speed) or if they pull down cranes and concrete pumpers for saftey it could lead to a pretty big stoppage of work! Secondly is the rain, current modeling isn't great, I am not overly trusting of the current representation provided, my concerns with it have to do with the system transitioning to extra-tropical system meaning it will start to dump it's rain and fast. Current modeling indicates 200mm+ for Fukushima but it could indeed be much worse than that.....in the end though, weather is weather and 72 hours may as well be an eternity but things are definitely starting to close in on a confident forecast period for the system!
    by Thunder 8/30/2011 11:42:19 AM

  • The family of this man ought sue tepco for negligence. There must be a criminal investigation. Why did it almost take weeks to come to light? How can people trust their institutions like that?
    by Peter Melzer 8/30/2011 11:49:08 AM

  • @Thunder ty I love the line - ". What it won't do is blow reactor buildings over(don't quote me there-remember TEPCO built these things)"
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:49:57 AM

  • Morning all.

    This is just so messed up. What Edano said earlier that acute leukemia could just be a crafted way to say he had radiation poisoning makes sense. It is the exact same dodge when the worker died of heat stroke. Oh no he didn't die of heat stroke, it was a heart attack because he was old, never mind he was working in hot conditions in a Tyvek suit with no water.

    This can't be dropped. There is a pattern going on and they are going to screw over every last one of these workers if there isn't enough outside pressure put on them.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 11:50:19 AM

  • When the new limits are in effect, the tepco fifty can retire from the industry.
    by Peter Melzer 8/30/2011 11:50:43 AM

  • @Peter Melzer the workers just leave their dosimeters in safe areas sunny bragged this morning he had exposure in the hundreds and was still well !! this is what annoys me they are showing no respect their only interest is in downplaying this
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 11:52:52 AM

  • Thunder thanks so much for putting that together. Is it OK if I use parts of your post in an article on the group website?
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 11:55:12 AM

  • @elainekirk I think TEPCO has encouraged a sort of bravado risk taking mentality. They have lots of younger guys working there, that can be a bad mix.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 11:56:59 AM

  • @lillymunster and ploanting 'sunny' to brag , to encourage bravado and shame those who question such behaviour , yesterdays sunny tweets about trotting around the evac zone and how 'safe' it is hours before tepco admit they have been giving out the wrong readings for ocean/zone contamination just shows that they are nasty deceptive scum
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 12:00:37 PM

  • ...makes one wonder whether there have not been more fatalities and tepco paid with the requirement that the families don't talk about it. Fitter had a word for this, gag rule I believe.
    by Peter Melzer 8/30/2011 12:01:40 PM

  • @Lilly no worries! Anytime! What I do here is expressly property of the group always unless I expressly state otherwise, it does come with the disclaimer, I am not a meteorologist. @Elaine a bit tongue in cheek but still serious, no one really knows the structual integrity of the building and it's foundations, constant eq's and other environmental forces coupled with damage from the big one and subsequent eq's and explosions(+ what ever effect constant foundation inundation from rain/core watering is having-if any) one could believe the things may fall over anytime or they could be strong as the day they were built??? I wouldn't say it won't happen without a detailed survey of the foundations/structual integrity, maybe they will do one.....yeah right! :-)
    by Thunder 8/30/2011 12:10:33 PM

  • @elainekirk TEPCO admitted they were giving out wrong readings? I missed that yesterday.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 12:15:45 PM

  • @lillymunster And this is why Tepco should not have been allowed to make comment on the workers death!! they are not trusted and with good reason!!
    30 TEPCO announced that a mistake in the publication of results of 94 measurements of radioactive material around the power plant after an accident in Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It's mainly due to calculation errors and inaccuracies, and units of the table when you post.
    translate.google.com
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 12:20:23 PM

  • @all, I will be on vacation next week Tues-Friday and will have limited time/access online.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 12:42:14 PM

  • @lillymunster I will be around but this week tomoro while sunday we have visitors staying so I will be limited to time.
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 12:44:26 PM

  • out for awhile
    by elainekirk 8/30/2011 1:04:05 PM

  • good morning to all
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:18:51 PM

  • Hi Dean!
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:19:07 PM

  • pouring every one a nice cup of tea or coffee...
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:20:14 PM

  • @lilly.. did you read the books.google link above about the anna fault line?
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:21:09 PM

  • @dean Not yet, I spied them this morning when I checked in. I am going to work on some N. Anna information later this morning. Putting together the details of the worker that died at Fuku that was announced last night.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:22:37 PM

  • I haven't heard about that yet
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:26:09 PM

  • A guy in his 40's worked at the plant for a week. Supposedly was healthy before he started and TEPCO claims he had zero internal exposure. He died on aug 16th and only worked a week in early August before his health deteriorated and they took him to the hospital. TEPCO is claiming it is totally unrelated to his work there. They state his work role as radiation exposure admin and doorway admin but don't say what that means.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:28:27 PM

  • Edano said acute leukemia = acute radiation poisoning
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:28:44 PM

  • kind of sounds like he was working at the doors where the workers may have passed through
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:30:52 PM

  • trying to google information on it now
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:34:00 PM

  • @dean exposure admin could also be anything. If he was out testing areas to limit exposure to other workers, as in marking them off etc. I wonder if he is the worker that tested that high rad vent pipe? The dates would match up
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:37:03 PM

  • it's possible, one thing that we haven't heard much of would be HOT POCKETS of radiation which may go un-monitored during a survey of an area before
    working which "could" expose a worker to a lethal dose.
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:40:20 PM

  • @dean I can see how that would happen since the levels are so high, wouldn't take much to cause a concentration by various means.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:42:28 PM

  • refresher on some of the levels
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:43:41 PM

  • We know some of the workers have been ditching their dosimeters to not max out right away so they can keep working. His extremely low rate is suspicious, I don't trust it as 100% true. It also doesn't make sense that someone would be 2 weeks away from death by leukemia and show no signs on a physical.
    by lillymunster 8/30/2011 1:43:59 PM

  • lowest one-year dose clearly linked to increased cancer risk 100mSv
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:44:03 PM

  • true... if he received an acute large dose those symptoms would clearly be evident
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:44:51 PM

  • dose causing symptoms of radiation poisoning if received in a short time 400mSv
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:45:17 PM

  • Severe radiation poisoning, in some cases fatal, 2000mSv
    by dean 8/30/2011 1:45:34 PM

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