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  • yep, looks damaged somehow.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:13:54 AM

  • @Edano I have not looked where the tropical storm is at right now.
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:14:37 AM

  • @lillymunster, there's not a trace of this alleged new cbfcf.org organization or business on anything we know is his, including his oft-flapping lips. ;)
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:16:25 AM

  • this does not look professional, definitely.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:18:05 AM

  • @Ian his two other websites are the only things I know of and they are not really updated regularly. There are maybe three lines about Fukushima on this www.llrc.org
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:18:21 AM

  • @Edano Have you looked at his other sites? They are far from professional. Looking at his other sites makes these two new ones more likely.
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:18:55 AM

  • i think they just gave it up. :(
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:19:30 AM

  • We can ask some of the JP folks since they found this site in the first place. Busby has been busy doing his song and dance for people in JP, so if he was promoting either his charity or this lab they would probably hear about it directly rather than in Eng. language media.
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:20:25 AM

  • Actually the new organization is in the description of his latest video. So I guess I've run out of defense for him. :(
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:22:07 AM

  • Typhoon Roke threatens more mudslides in west
    Kyodo

    The national weather agency warned Monday that heavy rain accompanying an approaching typhoon is expected to deluge wide parts of south and northeast Japan, raising fears of fresh landslides and floods in the ravaged Kii Peninsula.

    Typhoon Roke, the region's 15th storm of the season, was moving slowly north off Amami-Oshima Island and was expected to bring torrential rain Monday evening to Nara and Wakayama prefectures, where landslides triggered by Typhoon Talas claimed nearly 70 lives earlier this month. It also created mud dams that are approaching collapse and could end up flooding areas downstream. search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Majj 9/20/2011 12:22:58 AM

  • by Majj via Icons-ak.wunderground 9/20/2011 12:23:44 AM

  • Wind Map around Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant agora.ex.nii.ac.jp
    by Majj 9/20/2011 12:25:14 AM

  • there is a heavy, desperate fight on the supplement market. many companies want to sell their useless products to the uninformed population. busby is clever and found a new market for his rubbish pills.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:26:08 AM

  • BBC documentary. Some standard "nobody died" and "containment largely worked" verbiage, but he's knocking claims by Busby, Moret et al that wild extrapolations of hundreds of thousands to millions of deaths are a "complete myth", and comes up with all of about one dozen cancer deaths for all of chernobyl evacuees.
    www.youtube.com
    by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:26:13 AM

  • at first you spread fear and then you sell your little helpers. rumsfeld did the same before with the swine/bird flu and his completely useless "tamiflu". he made billions with it, and the impact on health was a joke.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:30:21 AM

  • As I sideline I track 9-11 truth / anti-war / stand-with-palestine conspiracy theorists and the main bad guys seem to be Leuren Moret (she considers all of Isreal = occupied Palestine), Busby who is upheld as proving Fallujah is a Muslim Hiroshima, and JimStone "Israel did it" guy. Gunderson I have my doubts about since American Free Press claims to have interviewed him, and he works with Democracy Now.
    by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:30:49 AM

  • @nukeart, I'm working on a video debunking that BBC documentary right now.
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:31:11 AM

  • @Edano I didn't know Rumsfeld had a stake in Tamiflu. Classy. The big red flag on the supplement thing was no list or mention of what is in it. That is a usual tip off for someone selling snake oil for various chronic conditions. It is also really dangerous if you don't know what is in something. It could have a reaction with a medication. If you give this to your kid and they have a bad reaction and all you know is that they are "magic pills" not good.
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:34:32 AM

  • by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:36:35 AM

  • wow the diagrams are just crazy. Who in the heck thinks you can actually get machines to get the fuel out?? Looks like something out of a Power Rangers or Godzilla movie
    by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:37:30 AM

  • @lillymunster urbanlegends.about.com The Tamiflu / Rumsfeld Connection
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:38:31 AM

  • @nukeart they dont truly believe that will work surely
    by elainekirk 9/20/2011 12:41:46 AM

  • @nukeart check out the Chernobyl movie - they show how they got cameras and robots into the reactor using 80's - 90's technology. youtu.be

    As far as TEPCO's diagrams. They seem a bit far fetched.
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 12:41:54 AM

  • The good part of the BBC is that the health effects are probably as overblown as he says they are. The bad part is that he thinks the contamination can be fixed, and that something like fukushima could never happen again or if it does, it's not such a huge deal that it can't be fixed either. Realistically, either the people of Japan are going to have to live with it, or they will have to abandon half or most of the island. Reading about CS-137 though it's nasty stuff. Gamma emmitter? Holy crap, how much shielding do you need? Tennis shoes are not going to protect you from walking on contaminated soil? What happens if you hold a package of contaminated hamburger? I just figured out alpha=paper shield, beta= foil, but gamma is BAD.
    by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:42:11 AM

  • @nukeart and the gov said earlier that they believe the fuel is no longer there
    "the premise.
    a.
    Basic analysis: “Almost no fuel left in the core of
    every unit” case

    This case is thought to mirror actual conditions."
    docs.google.com
    by elainekirk 9/20/2011 12:43:18 AM

  • Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds didn't even have the technology to clean up a blown up reactor, nor do the Power Rangers or any Japanese movie I can think of. I just saw the theory that the corium is now in the torus area and that makes a lot of sense. Funny nobody else has even suggested it -did you folks just figure that out??? Isn't there a lot LESS concrete under the torus area, effectively negating the thickness of the concrete under containment???? Holy crap.
    by nukeart 9/20/2011 12:44:43 AM

  • @nukeart we worked that out in the last two days. there are some significant facts leading to this assumption.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:46:49 AM

  • It has been pointed out before that the groundwater may be flowing into the basements through cracks in the basement walls, and now that possibility is even more heightened. We showed the result of our calculation to TEPCO, and they answered "The water may be flowing in in the order of 100 tonnes per day".
    images.t-nation.com

    ex-skf.blogspot.com

    by lillymunster via Images.t-nation 9/20/2011 12:50:10 AM

  • @nukeart, Lilly figured it out. And elaine noticed what may be steam coming from the ground outside Unit 3. I personally think the low radiation levels in the drywells suggests the corium has left the building. A number of facts are leaning toward a China Syndrome maybe at least for #3.
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:54:39 AM

  • The evidence of re-criticality (new i131 spikes) with the concurrent absence of rising drywell radiation also points that way, imo.
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:56:14 AM

  • @Ian have you seen the graphs with synchrone rising of temps and radiation in #2 torus ?
    by Edano 9/20/2011 12:56:21 AM

  • @Edano, no I didn't catch those graphs, I'll scroll down. What's the implication? I'm telling ya, whatever's happening in there, we're sitting on top of the data we need to sleuth it out!!
    by Ian 9/20/2011 12:57:58 AM

  • www.houseoffoust.com unit 2 synchronous rising of torus A and B radiation (green/blue curves)

    by Edano via Houseoffoust 9/20/2011 12:58:45 AM

  • www.houseoffoust.com unit 2 synchronous rising of all 3 torus temps (s/c pool water A and B, suppression chamber gas)

    by Edano via Houseoffoust 9/20/2011 1:00:05 AM

  • they steadily rise since sept 10, and it looks like a classic exponential curve.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 1:03:10 AM

  • what does that mean?
    by elainekirk 9/20/2011 1:03:45 AM

  • @elainekirk exponential ? it means faster rising than linear, every day more rising than the previous day.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 1:06:08 AM

  • @Edano ty
    by elainekirk 9/20/2011 1:06:45 AM

  • @Edano, I only see a steady rise of Drywell Radiation B since about Aug 11, and then it's only rising up to a point lower than it was a few days before. Smacks of instrument malfunction due to the sudden drop from like Aug 10 to about zero the next day.
    by Ian 9/20/2011 1:06:51 AM

  • @Ian no, look at the torus readings since sept 10.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 1:08:03 AM

  • goodnight all
    by elainekirk 9/20/2011 1:09:06 AM

  • @Edano, okay, I see what you mean, there is a perfect parallel rise, but it's tiny. G'night elaine. Sorry we haggled over Busby, I was just trying to give him my best benefit of the doubt, alas.
    by Ian 9/20/2011 1:09:51 AM

  • @Ian don't forget the y axis is logarithmic. the rise is from 5 to nearly 7 Sv/hr (Torus B). a linear scale would be more impressive.
    by Edano 9/20/2011 1:12:12 AM

  • nite Elaine
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 1:16:32 AM

  • @Ian it is good to debate things, that is how you figure them out. :-)
    by lillymunster 9/20/2011 1:22:31 AM

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