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@Peter but you know that they equipped children with dosimeters without displays ?by Edano 10/3/2011 10:55:54 PM- they wish to know but they don't let them know.by Edano 10/3/2011 10:57:31 PM
@Edano research doesnt come cheap they can't go letting people know what they were exposed to , blummin eck man have you any idea what that would cost tepco? the shareholders would be really unhappyby elainekirk 10/3/2011 11:04:11 PM
@Ian, I hope I understood the question right. You could always substitute one isotope of an element with another of the same element or even with an isotope of an element with almost the same chemical properties. However, reaction kinetics may be different because of differences in atomic weight. Moreover, when the turnover rate of the nuclide pool is slow, the replacement may take a long time in which you must keep the substitute available. The process may even take longer, if the nuclides to be substituted are recycled.by Peter 10/3/2011 11:04:37 PM- @Edano , they gave the children film dosimeters, did not they? They should at least inform the parents of the dose after each reading.by Peter 10/3/2011 11:10:43 PM
- That we even must consider that little people need to wear those gadgets! Tepco did enormous harm to the people lof Japan. I shudder when the media talk about the crippled plant a t Fukushima. A cripple does not do any harm. Tepco's plant inflicted harm.by Peter 10/3/2011 11:15:38 PM
- @Peter I believe they said at the time that they were purely for researchby elainekirk 10/3/2011 11:17:00 PM
- @lillymunster, exactly! Maybe Tepco'll commission me to paint my digital art on my account: youtube.com That'd be the day!by Ian 10/3/2011 11:24:20 PM
- @Peter, so the pills might not act fast? The studies I posted demonstrated some basic parameters of efficacy. The one showing urine excretion of radiostrontium appears to have been a fast effect, I got the full study and will check it out later.
Even at worst they aren't "magic pills" nor "snake oil" which would be pills with no scientific grounding even in plausible theory w/o a study.by Ian 10/3/2011 11:29:43 PM - My sketicism would be if there was much Sr90 released to worry about taxing one's kidneys with the burden of a bulky mineral. I picked up that new study on radionuclide analysis in a location south the FNPP, I'll see what is says wrt Sr90 later. But even at best it's just one location. Why not publish a more comprehensive study, odd.by Ian 10/3/2011 11:33:49 PM
@Ian I'm kinda hoping maybe Banksy would consider it the ultimate challenge or some frustrated artists in Japan. It would be a huge anti-nuke message with the right artwork. :-)by lillymunster 10/3/2011 11:41:24 PM- @Ian we don't know exactly what is in them though. "magnesium" has multiple types that do differing things. What else is in them and what is the exact purported outcome of taking them. Seems the whole thing is really vague from Busby's end.by lillymunster 10/3/2011 11:43:20 PM
- @Ian , would you know what is in the pills and how big they are? Do they contain strontium? As much as can remember we only found that they contain calcium and magnesium, not how much and in what form. We need to know precisely what is in them to discuss their efficacy. The only issue I wished to highlight is that one would have to take calcium daily for years to fully substitute calcium in the bone with new calcium, which also applies to cations that chemically behave like calcium. If Dr. Busby found a method to speed the replacement up or target cesium specifically, that would be great, and I would be interested in knowing how he does it.by Peter 10/3/2011 11:46:34 PM
- went to look for strontium in gov docs and this popped up
Development of Nano-Captor for Removal of Iodine and Strontium in Polluted Water
Enables Selective Removal from Polluted Water Containing Chlorine and Minerals; High Expectations for Use in Nuclear Power Plant Treatment
www.nims.go.jpby elainekirk 10/4/2011 12:13:56 AM - With regard to the measuring results of seawater collected around Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP
on August 15, Sr-89 and Sr-90 were detected. They were lower than the concentration limit
(Note 1). It seems that detected Strontium was released from Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP,
because Sr-89 with a short half-life period was detected. www.nsc.go.jpby elainekirk 10/4/2011 12:17:05 AM - OT
A Thermoelectric-conversion power supply system using a strontium heat source of high-level radioactive nuclear waste
Chikazawa, Yoshitaka
Journal of Nuclear Science and Technology 48(6), p.859-864(2011) ; (JAEA-J 09249) [link]
A thermoelectric-conversion power supply system with radioactive strontium in high-level radioactive waste has been proposed. A combination of Alkai Metal Thermo-Electric Conversion (AMTEC) and a strontium fluoride heat source can provide a compact and long-lived power supply system. A heat source design with strontium fluoride pin bundles with Hastelloy cladding and intermediate cupper has been proposed. This design has taken heat transportation into consideration, and, in this regard, the feasibility has been confirmed by a three-dimensional thermal analysis using Star-CD code. This power supply system with electric output of 1 MW can be arranged in a space 50 m2 and approximately 1.1 m tall and can be operated for 15 years without refueling. This compact and long-lived power supply is suitable to power sources for remote places and middle-sized ships. From the viewpoint of geological disposal of high-level waste, the proposed power supply system provides a financial base for strontium-cesium partitioning. That is, a combination of minor-actinide recycling and strontium-cesium partitioning can eliminate a large part of decay heat in high-level waste and thus can save much space for geological disposal. jolissrch-inter.tokai-sc.jaea.go.jpby elainekirk 10/4/2011 12:21:30 AM - Fukushima Children Humiliated by Their Teacher for Not Drinking Fukushima Milk, and Cabinet Secretary Sneers ex-skf.blogspot.com
Tochigi's Tactics to Sell Its Beef: Make Children Eat to "Prove" It's Safe
ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:54:13 AM - @lillymunster soooo sickby elainekirk 10/4/2011 12:58:44 AM
- tepco have released video's in Japanese www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 10/4/2011 1:16:02 AM
- Hey Edano! You have a second job... ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 10/4/2011 1:23:20 AM
- @lillymunster ooh, what happened to Goshi Hosono ? indecency ?by Edano 10/4/2011 1:45:25 AM
- @Edano @lillymunster :)by elainekirk 10/4/2011 1:46:03 AM
www3.nhk.or.jp
Govt energy policy reform panel
A panel of the ministry of economy and industry on resources and energy has begun a thorough review of the country's energy policy in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear crisis.
The panel, which includes members from the business sector and non-profit organizations, held its first meeting on Monday.
The panel hopes to come up with a new basic plan for a medium- and long-term energy policy to replace the one compiled in June of last year.
Economy and industry minister Yukio Edano said starting with just discussing the current state of energy in the country will not help earn the public's support. He indicated that they need to begin with a clean slate.
One panel member said abolishing nuclear power would be best in view of the cost of crisis response.
Another member said Japan's pursuit of safe nuclear power generation will be a global contribution, as demand for power is increasing in emerging countries.
A third member said the panel should discuss structural issues instead of choosing between abandoning or promoting nuclear power.
Still another member said he wonders whether it is appropriate to entrust the ministry, which has promoted nuclear power in the past, to come up with a new framework for energy policy.
The panel will meet once or twice a month, and compile a basic plan for a new energy policy by summer of next year.
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 05:55 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/4/2011 1:47:32 AM- @Edano Hosono? Epic dickery in the first degree.by lillymunster 10/4/2011 2:02:41 AM
- this is just late september tests wheras the other was cumulative and this shows 131 although less than 25 bq/kg in beef docs.google.com
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 2:08:18 AM 
bumpby Mid Valley 10/4/2011 4:01:12 AM- Dirty: TEPCO secretly bought tickets to political fund-raisers www.asahi.comby Mid Valley 10/4/2011 4:24:02 AM
- Changes in thyroid function confirmed in 10 of 130 Fukushima kids, Shinshu univ hosp says (translated...) babelfish.yahoo.comby Mid Valley 10/4/2011 4:33:20 AM
- bumpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:12:28 AM
- TEPCO demands only 50% disclosure of manuals
The operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has finally submitted its accident manuals in their original form to Japan's nuclear safety agency. But the Tokyo Electric Power Company maintains that only half of the documents' contents should be made public.
In mid-September, TEPCO submitted its procedural manuals for nuclear accidents to a Lower House committee investigating the Fukushima accident. But the utility blacked out most of the contents.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency later instructed TEPCO to submit the originals for 3 types of manuals for accidents of varying scale. The agency also asked the utility how much of the contents could be made public.
TEPCO now says that about 50 percent of the material should remain secret. It also says it wants to disclose just 10 percent of a manual for dealing with serious accidents.
TEPCO says this is because the manuals contain information covered by intellectual property rights. The company also says its manual for dealing with serious accidents includes information on important facilities. It says the documents cannot be made public because such facilities could become potential targets of terrorist attacks.
The nuclear safety agency says it will consider the validity of TEPCO's argument, and will aim to disclose the manuals by the end of October.
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 15:45 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:16:59 AM - TEPCO ordered to draw up safety guidelines
Japan's nuclear watchdog has ordered the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to draw up clear safety guidelines to oversee its work to get the plant under control.
Tokyo Electric Power Company is striving to bring the disabled reactors to a state of cold shutdown by next January, and then to begin preparations for their decommissioning.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says it wants TEPCO to set down the specific post-emergency nuclear safety protocols that will direct its work over the coming 3 years.
The agency says the key objective will be to prevent any additional discharge of radioactive substances and to drastically reduce radiation levels at the plant.
It says TEPCO should identify ways to pinpoint and control radioactive hot spots, and take steps to prevent hydrogen explosions.
The agency also wants the utility to report by mid-October how it aims to secure safety while using decontaminated water to cool down the reactors.
The agency says it will ask experts to review the adequacy of the guidelines that TEPCO comes up with.
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 09:34 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:18:04 AM 
Greetings friends, I am back from my long internet exile.by bo 10/4/2011 8:18:44 AM- Japan to continue 'research whaling' this winter: fisheries minister
TOKYO, Oct. 4, Kyodo
Fisheries minister Michihiko Kano said Tuesday that Japan will send a special ship for the first time to guard its whalers against possible violent protest activities, implying the country will continue its ''research whaling'' in the Antarctic Sea this winter.
''We intend to continue to assert our country's thinking,'' the minister for agriculture, forestry and fisheries told a press conference, referring to complaints by antiwhaling countries that what Japan calls research whaling is a cover for commercial whaling.
Kano also said research whaling is indispensable to restart commercial whaling in the future, adding that the guard ship will belong to the Fisheries Agency. english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:18:53 AM - METI to punish officials over manipulated nuclear symposiums
TOKYO, Oct. 4, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:20:24 AM - Genkai nuclear reactor halts over condenser abnormality
SAGA, Japan, Oct. 4, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 8:20:47 AM - @bo welcome back !!! have to go now... :(by Edano 10/4/2011 8:21:33 AM
- Take care Edano, catch you laterby bo 10/4/2011 8:22:24 AM
- bo! hellooooby elainekirk 10/4/2011 9:15:03 AM
- Press Release (Oct 04,2011)
Report on the Accident Operation Manuals of Units 1 to 3 at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (Second continued report)
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 10/4/2011 9:24:41 AM 
english.kyodonews.jp
Genkai nuclear plant's No. 4 reactor
Photo taken in June 2011 from a Kyodo News helicopter shows the No. 4 reactor at the Genkai nuclear power plant in the town of Genkai, Saga Prefecture. The reactor automatically shut down on Oct. 4, 2011, after an abnormality was detected in the condenser of its secondary cooling water system, according to its operator Kyushu Electric Power Co. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jpby Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/4/2011 9:55:06 AM- Schools in crisis-hit Minamisoma to limit outdoor activities to 2 hours
FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Oct. 4, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 9:56:01 AM - Japan decides to accept IAEA team on radiation decontamination
TOKYO, Oct. 4, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 10/4/2011 9:56:32 AM 
english.kyodonews.jp
Rengo labor group shifts to opposing nuclear power
Nobuaki Koga, president of the Japanese Trade Union Confederation known as Rengo, speaks during its convention at the Tokyo International Forum in Tokyo on Oct. 4, 2011. The leader of Japan's largest labor organization, also the largest supporter of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan, said it is necessary to ultimately aim for a society that does not rely on nuclear power, a turnaround from the organization's previous stance of promoting the construction of nuclear power plants. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jpby Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/4/2011 9:57:53 AM- this is quite important, when major organisations turn anti-nuke. they have the ability, power and money to influence public opinion.by Edano 10/4/2011 9:59:39 AM
- @Edano gov and tepco are releasing nothing and yet the people are getting angrier it seems, the union move is awesome as a boost for the peopleby elainekirk 10/4/2011 10:00:31 AM
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