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Genkai No.4 nuclear reactor stops operation

A reactor at the Genkai nuclear power plant in western Japan was shut down automatically on Tuesday, following a technical glitch with the unit's cooling system.

Kyushu Electric Power Company, the plant's operator, says no one was hurt and there have been no changes in radiation levels monitored near the plant.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says the Number 4 reactor at the plant stopped operations at around 1:40 PM on Tuesday, after abnormalities in the steam condenser of its cooling system were signaled by equipment.

Tuesday's suspension has left the utility with only one of its 6 nuclear reactors in operation.

Tuesday, October 04, 2011 18:55 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano 10/4/2011 12:07:39 PM

@lillymunster hi there, and thanks. My sense is that by raising allowable standards and imbedding the contaminated foodstuffs to get them below the levels, they will successfully have fed the radioactive food to the population, thus moving a short term economic problem into a long term health problem.
by bo 10/4/2011 12:11:58 PM

@bo very correct. That is the mindset I am seeing so far. There were also some stories yesterday about beef being put into school lunches as a stunt to convince the public it is safe. Also one about kids being shamed into drinking Fukushima milk.
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by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:15:46 PM

It sure seems clear that some of what passed for ineptitude at first is actually a very cynical corporate/governmental strategy. We can only say that they were overwhelmed by events if their later response demonstrates growth.
by bo 10/4/2011 12:17:38 PM

good morning to all
by dean 10/4/2011 12:25:13 PM

@ lilly if your here.. well first document I opened reported a CO2 fire so I'm not sure but I hope it goes up hill from there
by dean 10/4/2011 12:25:51 PM

Morning Dean!
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:26:02 PM

@dean I should have the one big NRC document done at some point today.

Um how does Co2 cause a fire?
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:26:56 PM

well.. that's what I wondered,,, Co2 is an extinguishing agent however it does strip o2 from the air and can be lethal to humans if in high concentrations, I know of an accident where the Co2 system accidently tripped when some workers were around electrical gear and 1 died 2-3 too months to recover from damages to the brain due to lack of o2
by dean 10/4/2011 12:28:41 PM

@bo It seems to be a bit of both. The emergency systems of the govt. failed massively. The emergency building the govt officials were supposed to use didn't have a quake resistant generator so nothing worked. None of the communications etc. Everything was reliant on phone and internet.

TEPCO execs wanted to abandon the plant. Some of the cabinet members said Kan was trying to handle everything himself making communication impossible
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:28:57 PM

is bo here.. yeahhhhhhhhh... bo, very good seeing you
by dean 10/4/2011 12:29:14 PM

www.tepco.co.jp

will this be the testing we saw them doing yesterday www.tepco.co.jp
answered my own question www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 12:33:26 PM

@dean As I was going through NRC docs yesterday I found pages of documents requested on Comanche Peak NPP. I have no clue what that has to do with Fukushima. It isn't a BWR unit. I think it may have been the plant that was going to build new reactors in conjunction with TEPCO and Mitsubishi. A guy who is an exec at the company that owns that plant was running around in the media telling everyone how safe newer reactors are and that only BWR is unsafe, he didn't disclose his professional relationship with the company.

I can't figure out why Comanche Peak is of interest or why they were so quick to divert attention. The FOIA asked for any safety related documents and a list of other things.
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:34:20 PM

Hi dean! I'm back!!
by bo 10/4/2011 12:35:27 PM

hard to tell @ lilly, I'm sure it was an act of blind desperation from someone who didn't want their stock or investment to be lost. I heard it from others right here in Idaho where there is a man trying to push through building a NPP. As the severity of the fuku accidents became clear, investors and companies who were vying for the GOV't INCENTIVE money to have a plant start by a certain date, began to shut down the projects
by dean 10/4/2011 12:40:45 PM

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission's estimate of the risk each year of an earthquake intense enough to cause core damage to the reactor at Comanche Peak was 1 in 250,000, according to an NRC study published in August 2010.[8][9]..... also On September 19, 2008, Luminant filed an application with the NRC for a Combined Construction and Operating License (COL) for two new reactors.[4] The reactor design selected is the US version of the 1,700 MWe Advanced Pressurized Water Reactor (US-APWR), developed by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI). The project is a joint venture, with Luminant owning 88 percent and 12 percent owned by MHI.[5] Luminant did not release an estimate of the project's cost, but CEO David Campbell said Luminant would try to build its new reactors at the low end of current industry estimates, which he said range from $2,500 to $6,000 a kilowatt — $8.5 billion to $20.4 billion for a 3,400 MW plant.[6]

Some environmental and anti-nuclear organizations and individuals oppose the plant expansion, citing environmental, public safety and cost concerns. These include the Sustainable Energy and Economic Development Coalition, Public Citizen and state Rep. Lon Burnam.[7]
by dean 10/4/2011 12:45:25 PM

I wonder how much money Luminant already has sunk in the project.
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 12:51:30 PM

I'll bet alot.. they started in 2008 and that isn't cheap,, if they get to the EIS, environmental impact statement and siting requirements
by dean 10/4/2011 12:55:34 PM

www.luminant.com luminant mngt
by dean 10/4/2011 12:56:40 PM

alot of these new investment groups like to try and land some former NRC folks to help get through the gauntlet..
by dean 10/4/2011 12:57:26 PM

www.energyfutureholdings.com driver of luminant
by dean 10/4/2011 1:01:39 PM

@dean Richard Meserve is on the payroll of a long list of nuclear companies and also heads a think tank run by PG&E but they keep the funding downplayed. Meserve runs around using his agency credentials to promote his business ventures and doesn't disclose the business ventures.
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 1:03:00 PM

www.energyfutureholdings.com well.. the EPA can cause plants to shutdown.. read this @ lilly
by dean 10/4/2011 1:04:40 PM

Mr. Richard A. Meserve has been President of Carnegie Institution of Washington since April 2003. Dr. Meserve serves as Manager of Luminant Holding Company LLC.
by dean 10/4/2011 1:07:41 PM

investing.businessweek.com bio on meserve
by dean 10/4/2011 1:08:38 PM

WILL RETURN..
by dean 10/4/2011 1:32:37 PM

this transcript and video fpcj.jp and fpcj.jp have been uploaded or altered in some way in the past 24hrs but I cannot find a cache to see if it has been altered
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 1:46:06 PM

@elainekirk how did you determine they were altered?
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 1:59:27 PM

@lillymunster 'uploaded or altered' thought it very strange them showing in the previous 24hr uploads and wondered why
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 2:08:04 PM

@elainekirk hrm. The document is dated march. Did you find them in a listing of documents from FPCI?
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 2:10:21 PM

@lillymunster each day I do a search of uploads in the previous 24hrs from go.jp and that was in it
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 2:12:44 PM

@elainekirk huh. have you tried googling the file name on Google.jp and see if that brings up a cache?
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 2:16:14 PM

Oh, the index page you find these on try doing the google.jp search on the index page. Put the entire web address in a browser window. It might then have the cached link to the old pdf inside that.
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 2:17:59 PM

Processing the NRC data dump file. Total size 2gb
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 2:35:07 PM

@lillymunster ty I will try that
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 2:44:54 PM

I didn't know of this outfit but they had a meeting last week www.ifnec.org
Poland will host and chair the next Executive Committee meeting of the International Framework for Nuclear Energy Cooperation (IFNEC) on September 29, 2011, in Warsaw.
and Japan's Government Representative said -
.
Japan cannot restore international confidence without the revival of Fukushima.
Putting top priority on resolving the Fukushima accident, we will do our utmost
to achieve a cold shutdown of the reactors and to minimize the risk of radiation
leakage through treatment of contaminated water in order to attain the target
to significantly hold down the radiation dose. We will also make full efforts to
secure the safety of the Fukushima nuclear plant workers, and steadily
implement the Roadmap towards Restoration from the Accident.
www.aec.go.jp
So who is saying they are in cold shutdown?
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 2:56:10 PM

Draft Generic Communications for Comment www.nrc.gov
Draft NRC Generic Letter: Seismic Risk Evaluations for Operating Reactors pbadupws.nrc.gov
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 3:06:06 PM

One wonders if we will wake on the 27th to the news that radiation is safe and we just need to keep smiling
NRC SPONSORS ICRP SYMPOSIUM OCTOBER 24-26 IN MARYLAND ON
INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM OF RADIOLOGICAL PROTECTION
Presentations at the symposium will cover experiences in implementing ICRP
recommendations on radiation protection; applications of effective dose, dose constraints, and
reference levels; radiation protection in waste management; protection of medical patients;
protection of the environment, including dosimetry for reference animals and plants; and
protection against radon in homes and workplaces. www.nrc.gov
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 3:13:39 PM

Browns Ferry Nuclear
95003 Part 1 Inspection
Public Exit Meeting

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Results:
• MOV, IST, and CAP governing procedures were generally
found acceptable
 Programs generally meet the requirements of the NRC’s rules and
regulations
• Several issues were identified in two main areas
 Programmatic requirements
 Implementation of the programs
• One issue was identified involving accuracy of information
submitted to the NRC
 MOV program document
• Additional observations identified
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 3:17:23 PM

hello all on board :)
@Ian - thanks for regarding and supporting allegedlyapparent
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@bo - nice to see you're back again

Today I stumbled across this blog-side that I too find worth regarding (especially for it's links) : Gregg Levine - capitoilette.com
ps: don't miss the 'subtitle' ;)
by Vivre 10/4/2011 3:37:03 PM

Fukushima residents demanding everyone be compensated by TEPCO,, including those who voluntarily evacuated mdn.mainichi.jp
by lillymunster 10/4/2011 3:49:50 PM

I also came across this tool:
Online Radiological Units Conversions - www.radprocalculator.com
and it might be worth to be provided in the The Library - houseoffoust.com ?
by Vivre 10/4/2011 4:12:08 PM

@Vivre that looks useful
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 4:13:53 PM

scroll past the first set of charts to get to the charts sub drain water level in the units!!! www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/4/2011 5:42:11 PM

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Decontamination seminars begin in Fukushima

Fukushima Prefecture has begun holding training seminars for workers who will be cleaning areas contaminated with radiation from the Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Fukushima plans to conduct the 2-day technical seminars around the prefecture. On Tuesday, 113 civil engineers, painters and other volunteers who have just begun cleanup work took part in the first seminar in Koriyama City.

An expert from the Japan Atomic Energy Agency spoke about what kind of tools should be used to effectively remove radioactive materials from home gutters and roadside ditches.

The participants also learned how to protect themselves while they are working. On the second day, they will receive practical training using dosimeters.

A man from Iwaki City said he has volunteered several times for decontamination work and would like to learn how to prevent polluted water from spreading. He said he wants to decontaminate Fukushima quickly and restore the area to what it was before.

The prefecture plans to hold 10 seminars by the end of the year and hopes to train as many people as possible to help accelerate the cleanup process.

Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:56 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/4/2011 5:43:19 PM