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  • @lillymunster oh come on ministry do you really expect us to believe all these bottles??????????
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:02:28 AM

  • Did there used to be a radium paint factory in Setagaya? WTH?
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:14:46 AM

  • @lillymunster mmm i will look
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:16:07 AM

  • en.wikipedia.org painting their teeth...
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:18:01 AM

  • Someone posted this as sarcasm but it could be possible if the hot spots are really radium and not something else.

    "Apparently, the entire subsoil of Japan is littered with old radium bottles. Makes sense. Before it became an electronics juggernaut in the 70′s, back in the 50′s and early 60′s, Japan cranked out a lot of cheap toys and watches, many of which glowed in the dark. Every other house in Japan had a litte factory workshop with a little old Japanese man meticulously handpainting watch dials. The unused radium paint had to go somewhere. So they buried it.Hence the abundance of 40 year old bottles of radium, which just now have decided en masse to come to the surface and give off high readings of radioactivity."
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:22:46 AM

  • If they had people working on plane dials as cottage industry during the war, or an actual factory for such in the area. If you look through all the old quack medicines etc. radium was widely used in Japan, US and EU for a time. Radium paint goes back to the 10th century in Japan.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:24:21 AM

  • @elainekirk jeez. I remember the painting their fingernails - their teeth? I was reading something on the radium girls recently that said the men running the factory took precautions when handling the paint, masks, lead etc. The women doing painting had no clue.

    BTW: The Radium Girls or The Nuclear Fleas would be awesome band names.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:25:52 AM

  • @lillymunster pukefest
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:26:28 AM

  • @elainekirk It was 6 years after the Triangle Shirtwaist fire where bosses locked the exits. When the fire broke out many of the female employees were unable to escape due to the locked doors. Both are cited as major incidents towards US labor reform.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:40:53 AM

  • @lillymunster I sometimes wonder if we are civilised or whether we just convince ourselves we are
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:45:19 AM

  • www.businessweek.com India delays reactor start over protests
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:48:38 AM

  • 32 readings of 32 outside the zone ! radioactivity.mext.go.jp
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:53:44 AM

  • 394 mSv reading on someone's counter - didn't say whose. ow.ly
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 1:54:27 AM

  • start with
    solutions.3m.com
    and then to
    solutions.3m.com
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 1:58:13 AM

  • @elainekirk that sounds like the media that CA company came up with for fuku
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:06:51 AM

  • @lillymunster wait for it...
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:07:10 AM

  • and finally what happens when you put empore and setagaya together in google

    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:08:09 AM

  • Grist -nuclear phase out right thing to do www.grist.org
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:08:34 AM

  • not that I am suggesting anything as we all know that what is being found is random intact bottles of radium paint in cellars , underground etc etc because the ministry man said so
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:09:53 AM

  • @elainekirk WOW! was there a full street address in those results? I wonder if there is anywhere that has the setagaya hot spots on a map?
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:10:06 AM

  • @elainekirk still quite interesting coincidence. Now how long has that 3m lab been in Setagaya? Did 3M take over an older Japanese factory at some point? So a factory doing similar work could have been there predating 3M setting up there.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:11:12 AM

  • @lillymunster I dunno Lilly I have only just come up with it fter hours of trying to find possible sources because all over Japan people are testing why is setagaya coming up with such high readings over other places, then I took the 'radium paint ' out of the keywords and tried other ie strontium and came up with 3m
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:12:42 AM

  • they tell us it is radium so idiot me runs of and looks for radium I will learn if somebody is paid by the taxpayers never ever take what they say at face value ... whichever country they are from
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:14:39 AM

  • I tried the 3m street address and google maps doesn't like it. The company is listed as this: CUNO
    Sumitomo 3M Limited
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:15:46 AM

  • cuno was bought out by 3M recently and they were/are a filter factory. Now to try to find out how old CUNO is...
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:17:43 AM

  • CUNO was US based and only later expanded. There was/is some manufacturing at the Japan plant but it does not detail if any research was done there. Nothing eludes that Japan had a unique product division or something that would require huge research labs. But if any testing had to go on your going to test with something that works (radium?) www.fundinguniverse.com
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:23:28 AM

  • @lillymunster strange
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:25:14 AM

  • 3M/CUNO aquapure brand filters are radium filters for drinking water. www.aquapurefilters.com

    Not a smoking gun right off the bat but this is interesting.. I think it merits more poking around
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:25:24 AM

  • The aquapure seems to be CUNOs main product - the others seem to have come in with 3M takeover.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:26:04 AM

  • Setagaya is only 22 sq miles
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:28:24 AM

  • 40 yr old bottles go to history read.jst.go.jp did I see 40yrs somewhere or am I imagining it?
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:30:02 AM

  • it is like finding a needle in a haystack but at least by gathering possible sources we can then eliminate
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:31:43 AM

  • google keeps wanting to search empir labs setagaya rather then the empore that I input and here we have a rather erm ...interesting result of googles results .... www.amazon.com
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:38:02 AM

  • @elainekirk 40 I think was the guess on the paint bottles under the house?
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:38:03 AM

  • @lillymunster I thought I had heard 40 :)
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:38:37 AM

  • @elainekirk Bwahahaha!
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:38:38 AM

  • @lillymunster have you seen how many reviews it has got ???? and you reallly dont want to go to the sellers main page www.amazon.com
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:40:00 AM

  • I think I need to go hide under the duvet I really need to do something about my google obsession dnb.alacrastore.com
    3m Health Care Limited Setagaya-Ku, Tokyo Japan
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:44:02 AM

  • Atomic Energy Research Laboratory - Setagaya en.wikipedia.org
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 2:47:08 AM

  • @lillymunster maybe I need to hide under 2 duvets
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:49:29 AM

  • gifted by tepco to the waiting masses 1 diagram full colour www.tepco.co.jp

    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 2:51:58 AM

  • This mentions old medical needles and materials. I did see a mention that radium was used to treat ear infections in kids up until 1970. mainichi.jp


    Radioactive materials: floor, science preparation room, people from the earth below ... why?

    31 minutes, November 03, 2011 at 10:00

     Movement spread to measure the radiation in the civil nuclear accident TEPCO Fukushima 1, a series of radium found in Setagaya, Tokyo 226. The uproar led to a series of different locations revealed the presence of chemicals had been forgotten. Originally, radioactive materials and coatings for medical purposes has been widely used since ancient times such as dating. After the war, and we have laws requiring permission to use the country, some aspects are not thorough enough, it may be found in the future as well. Takeshi Noda []

     After filing with the obligation is not thorough ◇
     3 days beginning last month. Was carrying a dosimeter from residents, Setagaya "there is a place of high dose," and there was a report. Examining the Ministry of Education, found dozens of glass jars containing radium 226 floor of the house. In middle school teacher from Tokyo, Shinjuku-ku, the original "radioactive material would remain in the school" has a touch with a small amount of uranyl sulfate is found in the science preparation room.

     Radium is a naturally-occurring, radioactive material it has been used most frequently in Japan. Before the war, and the glowing luminous paint watches and instruments were utilized as an effective needle into the body to treat cancer. But hazards become apparent, such as radiation damage prevention law enforcement in 1958, reported to the ministry or allow (depending on the state of matter) is mandatory. This time, however, is still in possession do not apply for a permit, and such owner subsequently died, one after another case that is left.

     Japan Radioisotope Association (Tokyo) NAKAMURA 吉秀 Business Division is "that was housed in was also important to say that down. The reality that the law did not penetrate," he said. According to Chief Nakamura, in 1960, in behalf of the former Science and Technology Agency, the Association has filed a campaign calling for use of radioactive material, radium is found in many. In the scrap processing plant in Kobe in 2000 still, and illegal dumping is found that radium needles, there are things you can not recover.

     In addition to radium, the country without permission, but some are used in research institutions and universities. In Tokushima in 2004, found that more than 1,000 waste including used tritium experiments in the past. Several similar cases after another year, the ministry twice and 09-10 years in 2005 to about 3,000 universities and medical institutions dealing with radioactive material was determined to check whether any of these substances . In the second study had 201 new reported from 60 facilities.

     T. Nakaya Regulation of radiation chamber chief ministry is "to buy foreign university teachers, when they go at retirement, such as it was not noticed, there are many old," he said. Currently, aimed to prevent a recurrence will be reported annually.

     Particularly susceptible to radium emits gamma rays, they may find it in the future citizens with a dosimeter. Division of Radioisotope Association Nakamura, for the current situation "better not overreact even been found. Could lead people to be hard to find Get Started," he said.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 3:01:38 AM

  • I feel so much safer having read that....not....if one thing comes guaranteed it is that what is being unearthed in Japan is not unique to Japan . Circumstances have brought about the conditions needed for it to be found, maybe as Edano said , we should all be considering carrying detectors ....
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 3:06:29 AM

  • good night all till the dawn
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 3:06:58 AM

  • Hi folks, good night @elainekirk
    by bo 11/3/2011 3:08:23 AM

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