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  • @Pedro Jesus yes, we know tepco .... :)
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:07:48 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus the diversion is away from the hints that fuel is out of containment. We have been getting those subtle hints for about 4 days now. Is this isotope/fission question something a lab could determine with samples?
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:08:07 PM

  • Hi everyone. I am going to discard my twitter tomorrow due to troubles on it. It will give me some time to be here (with a different ID). Twitter in JP is chaotic battle ground about food safety, debris treatment, and health effects. Many claim like thyroid problems and nose bleeding, and others are dismiss them. Ugly battles.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:09:03 PM

  • @lillymunster no. you cannot tell where a xenon isotope stems from.
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:09:04 PM

  • @ikrockhopper welcome :)
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:10:12 PM

  • @Edano but would a count, percentage or total combination of percentages in a panel give a clue?
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:10:12 PM

  • @Edano Hi! It seems like no one in Japan care about Xenon news. Numbed.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:12:30 PM

  • @lillymunster maybe in a lab experiment with controlled environment, yes, but in a crippled reactor .... too many variables.
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:13:02 PM

  • yes there were many hints for corium out of containment recently.
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:15:51 PM

  • @Edano I wondered if they took samples to a lab to test. They have/had a lab at Fuku so Daini and KK likely have labs.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:16:49 PM

  • @ikrockhopper what do the japanese think about the genkai reactor resumption ?
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:17:29 PM

  • Well, it is safe to say that curium does not directly produce xenon isotopes, so there must some misunderstanding there. I don't understand the correlation between curium and xenon in this particular context.
    by Pedro Jesus 11/3/2011 12:17:32 PM

  • Hi Rockhopper, welcome!
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:18:25 PM

  • @Edano Oh, huge rage among people (at least on Twitter), especially among people in Kyushu. It was midnight, yet some went to Kyushu EPCO to sit-in.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:19:04 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus distraction, generating confusion. :)
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:19:25 PM

  • @ikrockhopper good to hear. i was wondering if people simply accept that. the media did not report any resistance.
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:20:55 PM

  • @Edano As you know, Genkai No1 has an issue of degradation on the container. So, many people are worried about the Genkai reactors.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:21:00 PM

  • @ikrockhopper trying to remember, what is the deal with the governor there, did they have some connection to KEPCO? I seem to remember something odd
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:22:20 PM

  • @Edano JP major media, except for Tokyo Shimbun (newspaper), do not report anything like that, but many people still care.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:22:20 PM

  • i am sure kan wouldn't have allowed it.
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:23:39 PM

  • @lillymunster Hi! awww, yeah, stupid story. Yes, governor, mayor (family), and KEPCO connect each other with money.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:23:42 PM

  • @lillymunster KEPCO ignored the third party investigation team's acknowledgment about the connection and deleted the part from the report on the opinion manipulation.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:25:37 PM

  • @lillymunster KEPCO's president refused to step down. All of them are still there.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:26:39 PM

  • by Edano 11/3/2011 12:28:06 PM

  • The serious issue is that there is not involvement of law enforcement to all the problems, including Fukushima.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:28:47 PM

  • Law enforcement have sent many retirees to nuclear power industry everywhere. So, they are reluctant to do investigation. (obviously discouraged)
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:30:10 PM

  • @ikrockhopper so nobody is policing them
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 12:30:47 PM

  • @ikrockhopper trying to figure out what US law might handle something like that to see if there is a JP law similar. It sure sounds like political influence, but there are lots of creative ways used to skirt those laws. Does Japan have political bribery/influence laws?

    Any idea why law enforcement is ignoring all of these things including FUKU. I wonder with the workers, so many suspicious deaths and I heard one public official complain about law enforcement not being involved. It would seem logical to investigate the death of any worker even if they didn't die at work.
    by lillymunster 11/3/2011 12:30:52 PM

  • @elainekirk noop
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:31:49 PM

  • @elainekirk sorry, nope.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:32:14 PM

  • @lillymunster I don't remember when, but a ministerial aid said at a press conference that they would not do autopsy to the workers who died on site. He clearly said that they trust TEPCO
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:34:37 PM

  • @lillymunster The atomic energy basic law doesnt have any regulation about environmental disaster like this. The law says that it will be based on the environmental law, which doesnt have anything either. So, it's just tons of loopholes. I am not sure this is intentional or unintentional
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:37:33 PM

  • @lillymunster However, it is clear that the industry has strong (wrong) connection with police.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:38:30 PM

  • @lillymunster because they don't do anything with yakuza (gangs) who have been working on 'collecting' workers from everywhere, and rip off money.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:39:46 PM

  • @lillymunster I went to Fukushima pref to give a lecture last week. A principal living in Iwaki city told me that the city is very dangerous these days. No one wants to walk outside at night, because of rape, violence and other things by workers (supposedly) moved from other areas of Japan. He said that TEPCO will never let the news go outside.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:43:11 PM

  • what a mess :(
    by Edano 11/3/2011 12:46:03 PM

  • @lillymunster I went to Kohriyama city, Fukushima, and rad level was 0.8-1micro all the time there. But, nothing strange is there, expect for one thing. I didn't see children there. People I met said that parents still keep children inside. Daycares and kindergartens, too.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:46:53 PM

  • @Edano I agree.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:47:22 PM

  • But, now I see a reason why a majority of them do not evacuate from the coast area.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:48:16 PM

  • @ikrockhopper what a sad childhood with no freedom
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 12:48:54 PM

  • They all experienced the tsunami on 3.11, and they are still on recovery. Back then, they didn't think the Fukushima condition was this bad. So, they kept working on physical and mental recovery, which strengthened ties among them.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:49:59 PM

  • Under many big aftershocks, the ties got stronger and stronger (remember, Fukushima is a traditional rural area of Japan who value human tie). Now, they cannot give up the tie and move out. If they move out, they lose the psychological/physical support. And, there is obvious discrimination against Fukushimas outside the pref.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:52:00 PM

  • @ikrockhopper so they will become a community that is isolated
    by elainekirk 11/3/2011 12:53:33 PM

  • @elainekirk I think so.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:53:49 PM

  • @elainekirk which is sad, and not helpful for anyone.
    by ikrockhopper 11/3/2011 12:54:17 PM

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