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@ikrockhopper and they will be trapped and not rich and be held to ransom by tepco's ever increasing electric bills

@ikrockhopper the government should have set up call centres and given companies subsidies to use data provcessing and call centre services based in fuku

@all - we found a few maybe leads on the Setagaya radium bottles thing. There is a Radiation Sciences lab at one of the universities, A (now) 3M plant that makes filters that filter out radium specifically and other filters dealing with absorbing other types or radioactive substances and a children's research hospital. No direct connections but any of these could possess radium bromide to use in their work. The newspapers reported the grocery store was the site of an agricultural college at one time but only the offices where there, not any of the labs or classrooms etc. So there is some potential for illegally thrown away bottles to make it into landfill or an empty lot. My personal take it that until there is some concrete proof these hot spots in Setagaya are caused by radium bottles the claim is suspect.

@ikrockhopper Hmm. US politics if a governor was living outside the state I think he could be recalled?

@elainekirk I find it suspect and wonder if the radium paint incident gave them a convenient excuse. I would want lots of documentation and photographic evidence of the work being done before I would believe it completely.

@lillymunster we have mp's who don't live in their constituencies or they just buy a house there to keep local quiet it is farcical

terrible isn't it that anything from official sources globally is instantly distrusted, I always try to find what is really going on when ours start fantasising

@ikrockhopper good night rockhopper sleep well

@ikrockhopper oh wow ty

@ikrockhopper goodnight sleep well

from the article: The ministry remeasured levels in and around the supermarket on Nov. 2, and detected 0.2 to 12 microsieverts of radiation at 15 locations, including the ground's surface and the supermarket floor.

What does the 100 fold increase in krypton 85 have to do with the criticality issues? ex-skf.blogspot.com

coating bottles with radium so maybe they are not bottles containing radium maybe they are just finding bottles that have a radium coating and the source of the readings is not the bottle www.alibaba.com

@lillymunster yup it is a con and any scientist worth his salt would be shouting from the rooftops the new bottle discovered I can find no radium bottle pics that size or colour

Another thing they need to be asking themselves in Japan is that if these GLASS radium bottles are a source and are being found oh so far buried or physically distant, as in the cellar ones, it means
A- that turning soil in playgrounds etc is a useless method
B- that glass does not prevent radiation leakage as they would have us believe globally when the encase rad waste in it

@elainekirk I think the industrial vitrification uses a specific type of glass/ceramic - it isn't intended to shield the radiation but to make extraction of the uranium/plutonium impossible if someone got their hands on it.