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What was the date the fission/criticality issue was announced?by lillymunster 11/7/2011 2:29:19 PM
may, june and july, this "fog" was often to see. Only a few times in august. September i can`t remember to see it. But october 22. the "fog" was like in spring/summer.by Puc 11/7/2011 2:31:31 PM
@lilly.. I believe it's recentlyby dean 11/7/2011 2:32:49 PM- @lilly.. that is the report on possibility of a hole being blown out in #2.. on the enformable enformable.com comparision photosby dean 11/7/2011 2:34:59 PM
Iirc, tepco tested on Nov1,2,and 3. The announcement of Xe was made on nov 2, and retracted the next day?by M.I.A. 11/7/2011 2:36:13 PM
Officials of Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) pumped water mixed with boric acid into the No. 2 reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant early on Nov. 2 after finding traces of xenon, a radioactive gas that might indicate nuclear fission has taken place.
by dean 11/7/2011 2:37:28 PM- Article also said.. For the first Time since the beginning NHK showed the Corium "under" the Cement Tableby dean 11/7/2011 2:38:11 PM
- enformable.com nov2 1011by dean 11/7/2011 2:39:17 PM
- @ALL We have provided a Japanese press release version of the instruction
document received from NISA. However, at this time we have reserved the
right to not provide an English version due to potential
misunderstandings that may arise from an inaccurate rendering of the
original Japanese text.
We may provide the English translation that NISA releases in our press
releases. However, in principle we would advise you to visit the NISA
website for timely and accurate information.
www.tepco.co.jpby M.I.A. 11/7/2011 2:42:18 PM - Officials of the company said that some parts of the reactor may have reached criticality, a state of self-sustaining nuclear fission. Fuel believed to have melted in the accident triggered by the March 11 earthquake may have caused the fission. The boric acid was pumped into the reactor to suppress the reactions.
“We cannot deny the possibility of a temporary, small-scale state of criticality,” said TEPCO official Junichi Matsumoto. “However, because there was no sudden increase in the temperature or pressure of the reactor core, we concluded there was no major state of criticality.”..... ONE NOTE.. increase of pressure or temperature of the reactor core would be very difficult to obtain simply from the diagram one can see that there is no intact system for pressure to build and the temperature of the core,, "molten fuel or corium" .. well that's impossible to measureby dean 11/7/2011 2:42:57 PM - @ MIA WOW.. is that an admission of all previous releases from TEPCO as being... "inaccurately rendered".. I can't believe that statement.... they have people who were educated in the USA who could put that into WORLD TERMS for all countries to understand..by dean 11/7/2011 2:45:24 PM
- @dean Oh, good translators are VERY hard to find- NOT!by M.I.A. 11/7/2011 2:45:59 PM
- So why can't their attatchments be rendered in Eng.? That's what I was looking for when I noticed that statement. Graphs are not "interpreted".by M.I.A. 11/7/2011 2:47:07 PM
- ajw.asahi.com nov 2by dean 11/7/2011 2:47:23 PM
- by M.I.A. 11/7/2011 2:49:04 PM
- ajw.asahi.com Electric Power Co. said Nov. 3 that naturally occurring "spontaneous nuclear fission"--not a state of criticality--created the xenon detected at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant.
The company said it reached that conclusion after evaluating the state of nuclear fission based on the concentration of xenon detected and temperatures and pressure levels at the No. 2 reactor of the crippled plant.
Instead of being caused by self-sustaining nuclear fission, the xenon was likely generated by spontaneous fission of curium and other radioactive substances derived from the reactor fuel, TEPCO said. Spontaneous fission takes place in suspended nuclear reactors under normal conditions.by dean 11/7/2011 2:51:01 PM - Thanks - the video of the "fog" is very much like the steam incidents we saw over the summer. We were able to sort what was fog rolling in vs. steam incidents. One of the guesses on the steam incidents was watering or corium moving and coming into contact with water. Looking at the TEPCO docs from the same day not seeing anything reported at 2by lillymunster 11/7/2011 2:53:08 PM
cold shutdown comparisons
by dean 11/7/2011 2:53:29 PM- ajw.asahi.com Nov 2, 2011A Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan task force decided on Nov. 1 to extend the area around nuclear power plants subject to emergency planning for nuclear accidents to a 30-kilometer radius, in line with International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) standards, sources said.
The new 30-kilometer Urgent Protective Action Planning Zone (UPZ) defines the area where plans need to be made for residents to stay indoors or evacuate safely if radiation levels exceed certain levels.
Previously, the Japanese authorities had only prepared special plans for residents within an 8- to 10-kilometer radius around nuclear plants.
The task force has also decided to designate a 5-kilometer radius around plants, called a Precautionary Action Zone (PAZ), in which immediate evacuation is required if a major nuclear accident occurs, regardless of whether radioactive substances are known to have been leaked.
However, a proposal to create a new 50-kilometer radius designated zone around nuclear plants, where residents would be told to be prepared to remain indoors during a crisis and could be given iodine tablets, was not adopted by the commission. Although radiation contamination from the Fukushima accident has been more widespread than expected, the commission dropped the idea because of the difficulty of making preparations for zones including very large populations and many municipalities.by dean 11/7/2011 2:56:58 PM - ajw.asahi.com Nov 1High concentrations of radioactive tellurium and silver have been found in soil around the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, according to the science ministry's contamination maps released on Oct. 31.
The elements, minor components of radioactive fallout, were detected at sampling locations within 30 kilometers of the stricken nuclear plant.
An analysis showed that the concentration levels equaled a 50-year human radiation exposure of up to 3.2 millisieverts, the ministry said.
Soil samples were collected at about 2,200 locations within 100 km of the plant between June 6 and July 8. Studies were conducted on the concentrations of about 800 samples of tellurium-129m and about 350 samples of silver-110m.
"We have confirmed that the contributions of tellurium and silver to radiation doses are small compared to that of cesium," a ministry official said. "Neither tellurium nor silver easily accumulates in human bodies."
The symbol "m" indicates that the nuclides in question differ in properties from tellurium-129 and silver-110.
Tellurium-129m, with a half-life of about 34 days, is generated by nuclear fission of uranium fuel. When accumulated in human bones, tellurium-129m is excreted from the body in a shorter time than iodine-131, a major component of radioactive fallout along with cesium-134 and cesium-137.by dean 11/7/2011 2:59:06 PM 
map of tellurium 129
by dean 11/7/2011 3:00:12 PM- I must depart.. will return ..by dean 11/7/2011 3:01:48 PM
- @all - someone popped in maybe Friday night? They noticed another steam incident at Fuku on the webcam. It again started by unit 4 and the common pool. So why are we now seeing the same phenomenon we saw over the summer?by lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:08:36 PM
- Edano if your still around, what is mycoplasma pneumonia? This is cited as having a huge uptick in cases in kids.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:21:56 PM
- This talks about the upticks in acute leukemia in adults and the pneumonia in kids people are worrying about ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:25:12 PM
- NHK aired a show where families in various locations prepared a meal and NHK tested the food. Ironically the Fukushima family food had no radiation and others were very low. After it aired it was exposed that the detector used was broken and NHK took it off their website. ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:26:27 PM
- comments by the governor of fukushima ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:29:37 PM
- Tokyo governor tells people worried about radioactive debris being brought to Tokyo (to TEPCO's garbage facility) to shut up. ex-skf.blogspot.com Fukushima governor thinks he is world famous and that it is great. ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:32:20 PM
@lillymunster Hi Lilly. Do you have sources for that comment you made about Anonymous and the Israel/Iran crisis? I ask because there has been a lot of hoaxes involving Anonymous lately. Take the Facebook demise hoax for an example.by Pedro Jesus 11/7/2011 3:56:10 PM- @Pedro Jesus let me go look - there was supposedly an official anon video on it.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 3:56:59 PM
- Anon video of the action on Israel www.youtube.com
Looks like not the first time they took a swipe at them anonops.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:01:21 PM - @lillymunster Several official websites regarding the political party in power in Portugal at the moment have been attacked tonight by a group that calls itself LulzSec Portugal, apparently associated with Anonymous. They were making a bid to end corruption and asking the media to stop supporting corrupt politicians and to expose them instead.by Pedro Jesus 11/7/2011 4:02:59 PM
- @lillymunster Well this looks like the real deal but mind, it doesn't have absolutely anything to do with the Iran nuclear affair. It is a bid to stop illegal activity around the Gaza area by the Government of Israel. It relates to the Israel/Palestine crisis.by Pedro Jesus 11/7/2011 4:10:57 PM
- @Pedro Jesus sounds believable, have not heard anything about it over here yet.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:12:03 PM
- Interesting New Yorker article that was posted here over the weekend. Reposting it for those that might have missed it. www.newyorker.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:21:05 PM
- @lillymunster The hacker's group Anonymous usually protects the rights of the weak and of the minorities and they usually abide by United Nations conventions. The United Nations are against nuclear weapons proliferation and so are Anonymous. They fight for freedom of speech and world peace, they would never support Iran in their willingness to build and test their first nuclear weapon.by Pedro Jesus 11/7/2011 4:24:57 PM
Nov 07,2011)The Receipt of the Instruction Document on Submission Request for the Report on the Implementation of Immediate Countermeasures against the Emergency at Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station from the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry www.tepco.co.jp
Today, we received the instruction document* titled "Submission request
for the Report on the Implementation of Immediate Countermeasures against
the Emergency at Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station" from the Nuclear
and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and
Industry.
Per the instructions, we will organize materials regarding the
implementation status of the immediate countermeasures against the
emergency at Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station and will report them to
NISA.by elainekirk 11/7/2011 4:32:25 PM- @Pedro Jesus the current squabble with Israel is over a blockade not allowing any ships into Gaza. IIRC this meant basics like food etc can't get in.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:41:43 PM
- @elainekirk Maybe I need more coffee but that TEPCO NISA press release looks like they just threw words together.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:43:41 PM
- by elainekirk 11/7/2011 4:44:30 PM
- @lillymunster I am guessing at daini unit 4 being in trouble trying to find more infoby elainekirk 11/7/2011 4:46:08 PM
- sharp rise in seawater contamination at daiichi www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 11/7/2011 4:53:00 PM
everybody can participate in the attack of websites. you only have to download the ion cannon program and set it to remote control. :)by Edano 11/7/2011 4:55:42 PM- @lillymunster Precisely. ;)by Pedro Jesus 11/7/2011 4:56:11 PM
- Anon went after Koch Industries at one point. They publicized that they were taking down their website so tons of people went to go see, adding to the flood of traffic messing with the server.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 4:59:26 PM
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