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The Daini documents don't specifically show a problem but it is really strange out of the blue to bring it up.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:03:17 PM- Seawater contamination at Daini looks close to levels found at Daiichi? WTH?by lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:05:43 PM
@lillymunster where are the docs?by elainekirk 11/7/2011 5:07:52 PM
Nuclear safety agency denies criticality at Fukushima reactor
TOKYO, Nov. 7, Kyodo
The government's nuclear safety agency said Monday that it supports Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s view that the recent detection of radioactive xenon at one of its crippled reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was not a result of a sustained nuclear chain reaction known as criticality, as earlier feared.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said what is known as ''spontaneous'' fission created xenon-135 because it found that the density of the substance had not changed even after Tokyo Electric injected water containing boric acid, which should have lowered the density of xenon-135 if criticality had taken place.
''We judge Tokyo Electric's report (on the detection of xenon) to be basically appropriate,'' the agency said in a statement. english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 5:12:34 PM
english.kyodonews.jp
Survey to compile detailed radiation map in Fukushima begins
FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Nov. 7, Kyodo
A detailed survey to compile a map of airborne radiation levels began Monday in Iitate village in Fukushima Prefecture, with the aim of collecting data for use when drawing up decontamination measures in the prefecture affected by the ongoing nuclear crisis, Environment Ministry officials said.
The ministry is expected to conduct monitoring work at about 3,000 locations in the prefecture in November, including about 400 spots in Iitate, covering mainly residential areas within a 20-kilometer radius of the radiation-leaking Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, it said.
Measurements will be taken by unmanned helicopters around woodland and rivers, while monitoring vehicles will travel along roads in residential areas, it said. english.kyodonews.jpby Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 11/7/2011 5:14:33 PM- @elainekirk The seawater document you posted has Daini (2F) at the end of the PDF pages.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:18:04 PM
- The New Yorker article I posted earlier talks about the real numbers related to energy in Japan. It points out that they have the ability to easily dump nuclear and suffer no ill consequences if they use their available renewables potential and do some existing energy efficiency updates.
Amory Lovins, the author of the information used says the US could do the same thing without major govt. involvement and that both countries are simply protecting an outdated industry to the detriment of the public.
They also specifically cite Germany as a textbook case of it working.
www.rmi.org
Lovins profile at TED www.ted.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:32:57 PM - Nuclear power companies subject to cyber attacks
The operators of nuclear power plants in Japan have become the latest victims of cyber criminals.
NHK asked 10 electric power companies that manage nuclear power plants if they have experienced attacks on their computer networks in the past year.
Tokyo Electric Power Company, Hokkaido Electric Power Company and Tohoku Electric Power Company said they had received targeted cyber attacks through emails disguised as business communications from government offices.
TEPCO says, however, that it has no evidence of an information leak.
Five other utilities reported that their computers were hit by viruses delivered through email, but they also said they have had no data leakage.
Noting past cyber attacks on nuclear facilities abroad, Keio University Professor Keiji Takeda says hackers may have sent viruses to try and collect data from plants in Japan.
He says not only electric power companies, but also gas and water suppliers, railway operators and other infrastructure operators should share information on viruses and check again to see if their computers have been infected.
Earlier, Japanese government institutions and defense contractors came under cyber attacks.
Monday, November 07, 2011 19:42 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 5:34:07 PM - i hope they publish it when they hack tepco.by Edano 11/7/2011 5:34:24 PM
- Smaller increase in children's weight in Fukushima
A survey shows that some children in Fukushima Prefecture have smaller average weight gains this year compared to the year before. A pediatrician says the results indicate the negative effects of the nuclear plant accident in March.
Doctor Shintaro Kikuchi tracked the weights of 245 children aged from 4 to 6 in 2 kindergartens in Koriyama City, Fukushima Prefecture. The results show an average weight increase of 0.81 kilograms over the past year through June. The increase for children in the same age group the previous year was 3.1 kilograms.
The average increase for children aged 5 to 6 in the survey was 0.84 kilograms. But a nationwide health ministry survey conducted last year for children of the same age group showed an average gain of 1.8 kilograms.
The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident has caused high levels of radioactivity in areas around the plant. Koriyama is located about 60 kilometers from the facility and many children in the city have been forced to play indoors to avoid contamination.
Kikuchi noted that the smaller weight increases could be related to reduced appetite resulting from less exercise as well as changes in the secretion of growth hormones due to stress. He said measures should be taken to restore normal hormone levels in the children.
Monday, November 07, 2011 20:09 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 5:35:41 PM - Minute radiation monitoring begins in no-go zone
The environment ministry has launched a detailed survey of radiation levels in areas near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
This information will enable the government to pinpoint which areas in the irradiated 20-kilometer zone of the plant need to be decontaminated first. Areas with radiation levels of about 20 millisieverts per year will also be included.
About 30 people, including ministry officials and Tokyo Electric Power Company staff gathered at a monitoring point in Iitate Village. The village is in a government-designated evacuation zone, from which all residents were ordered to leave.
Radiation levels for the survey will be measured at 100 meter intervals at an altitude of 50 meters, using unmanned helicopters and cars.
The ministry will provide an interim report on the results in December.
In the 12 designated municipalities, three corporations commissioned by the government have been selected to carry out the survey how to proceed the decontamination work effectively.
The ministry is set to begin full-scale cleanup efforts from next January according to the result of these surveys.
A ministry senior official said he hopes the survey and decontamination work will move forward quickly to allow some 100,000 evacuees to return to their homes.
Monday, November 07, 2011 19:42 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 5:38:04 PM - Fukushima delegation ends visit to Chernobyl
A delegation from Fukushima Prefecture has ended a 6-day visit to the former Soviet republics of Belarus and Ukraine. The 2 countries were heavily contaminated following the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986.
The delegation made up of prefectural officials and researchers visited the office of a civic group "ZEMLYAKI" in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev on Sunday.
The group was set up by a group of evacuees from Pripyat -- a town about 4 kilometers from the Chernobyl nuclear plant. It has been working to improve medical assistance and international exchanges.
A representative said many evacuees are unemployed, face financial difficulties and need more support.
A former kindergarten director in Pripyat said the authorities failed to disclose the truth. She said she was told by officials that she would be able to return home several days after the accident, but later learned from TV that she would never be allowed to return.
The delegation head, Shuji Shimizu, who is deputy president of Fukushima University, said the group learned a lot during the visit about what people in Fukushima should do. He said he will make use of the findings.
Monday, November 07, 2011 11:09 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 5:40:14 PM - Will those that went to chernobyl actually make change?by lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:53:56 PM
- random question, could they make ethanol out of contaminated riceby lillymunster 11/7/2011 5:56:26 PM
www.abendblatt.de
an overview of the iranian nuclear facilities. article with explanation in german: www.abendblatt.de most of them are deep under ground.by Edano via Abendblatt.de 11/7/2011 6:04:31 PM- @Edano underground? that sounds high cost ?by elainekirk 11/7/2011 6:08:23 PM
- @lillymunster I think they may tryby elainekirk 11/7/2011 6:08:47 PM
- @elainekirk Distillation takes the residues and impurities out of the alcohol product. I think it might remove cesium etc but not 100% sure. Sounds like an ideal use for all that contaminated rice. They can run it in cars and keep all those farmers working.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 6:10:12 PM
- @lillymunster distillation does not remove radioactivity. we had that question before. but they can use the abandoned areva unit. :) maybe it works with alcohol.by Edano 11/7/2011 6:12:23 PM
- @Edano don't give them ideas!by elainekirk 11/7/2011 6:13:19 PM
- fuku sake © by areva glowing in the dark.by Edano 11/7/2011 6:14:33 PM
- could become a fashion drink.by Edano 11/7/2011 6:20:16 PM
- @Edano I should imagine that is an actual realityby elainekirk 11/7/2011 6:23:53 PM
- LOL. I suppose it would get expensive to filter out cesium and whatever else would be in the ethanol. Too bad, would give a use for the product and keep it out of the food supply.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 6:24:31 PM
- @lillymunster @Edano goj only test the rice in a slap dash fashion and I havent seen them overseeing its disposal so I can imagine much brewing of liquor taking place and how do customs check liqour for radiation when it is sealed in glass bottllesby elainekirk 11/7/2011 6:49:40 PM
- I worry where that rice is going. Some was sent to koriyama for school lunch ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 6:59:12 PM
- Canadian uranium company loses money, stock price drops as does demand. www.foxbusiness.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 7:02:19 PM
- @lillymunster morals are becoming a real collectors item maybe we should start a rush on them.....by elainekirk 11/7/2011 7:06:36 PM
- @elainekirk Did you see the article I put together today? Took the info from ex-skf and some more I found about the Tokyo governor and the governor of Fuku. The are both out of their minds. houseoffoust.comby lillymunster 11/7/2011 7:21:11 PM
- No criticality in Fukushima
Japan's nuclear agency has confirmed that sustained nuclear fission did not take place at the Fukushima nuclear power plant last week.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency disclosed the results of experts' studies on a report by Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO.
The utility detected a small amount of the radioactive material, xenon-135, in the reactor's containment vessel of the damaged No.2 reactor on Tuesday of last week.
TEPCO initially feared it may signal an ongoing nuclear reaction. But it determined that the substance was produced through spontaneous fission, a form of radioactive decay, and not from sustained fission or criticality.
The nuclear agency said the density of the xenon, which did not change when a boric acid solution was injected into the reactor, proved that criticality did not occur.
The agency ordered TEPCO to regularly check the density of nuclear substances inside the vessels and to report any changes.
Cabinet Office Parliamentary Secretary Yasuhiro Sonoda said on Monday that it is regrettable that TEPCO was slow to report the incident to local governments, calling on the utility to share information as quickly as possible.
Tuesday, November 08, 2011 02:48 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 11/7/2011 7:33:54 PM - they speak of a proof. this is bs and they know it. it is simply a hint, but no proof. astonishing.by Edano 11/7/2011 7:36:33 PM
- @lilly good article tweetedby elainekirk 11/7/2011 7:43:22 PM
- @Edano they must have been at the sakeby elainekirk 11/7/2011 7:44:09 PM
- the radioactive sake, that explains some of the officials and experts lately. :-(by lillymunster 11/7/2011 7:58:36 PM
- Has a total dollar amount been guessed at yet for total cost for fukushima between plant decommissioning, decontamination all over japan and compensation costs etc? I know TEPCO just borrowed money from GoJ because they were running short.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:07:24 PM
- @lillymunster next questionby elainekirk 11/7/2011 8:31:18 PM
- @elainekirk I am reading back through the US nuclear LLC scam that Tippytoe brought up a week or so ago. That has me wondering what all the various costs are being estimated at for Fukushima. I know that all of the real costs have the potential to bankrupt the country if they paid them all. The coping mechanism seems to be to just avoid paying compensation or costs wherever possible. I fear the US would do the same thing but with the LLC added into play there is no TEPCO full of assets to go after. The LLC goes bankrupt and the real big corporation walks off with no damage.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:42:17 PM
@lillymunster I think a dollar amount over the next 30+ years and future generation's health bills is near impossible to guesstimate.by MaryW 11/7/2011 8:43:31 PM- The NRC also makes no requirement that any company has the ability to make payments into Price-Anderson in case of an accident. So that fund would likely not get paid into in the event of a big accident. The NRC does not require nuclear utilities to escrow or otherwise guarantee funds for Price-Andersonby lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:44:40 PM
- @MaryW Very true - it is quite astronomical to try to quantify all of the costs. If a major accident happened in the US all of the costs beyond the $300 million insurance policy would fall on the taxpayer.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:45:36 PM
- TEPCO borrows money from government, government raises taxes, the Japanese people end up paying for it all in the endby MaryW 11/7/2011 8:46:27 PM
- @MaryW right, but there is a requirement to make TEPCO sell assets to pay for the compensation. With the US LLC arrangement a big company like Entergy just walks away and lets the LLC with no assets except the reactor go bankrupt.
Either scenario the public foots the bulk of the costs.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:49:40 PM - Do you think compensation and law suits will trickle down to the company who manufactured the reactors?by MaryW 11/7/2011 8:52:37 PM
- But then, it all is a result of a natural disaster, which affects the liability.by MaryW 11/7/2011 8:55:57 PM
- @MaryW I think at some point someone will sue GE over the known flaws of the Mark 1 reactor design. There were so many whistleblowers about flaws plus GE kept issuing fixes when they couldn't explain away a major fault in the design. If it succeeds or not I don't know.by lillymunster 11/7/2011 8:56:42 PM
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