Japan Earthquake

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There is a really weird wall on information in the US. If I use Google.de or Google.jp I can get tons of information that won't pull up under the same search in the US even though I am still searching in English on some of it. When we were looking at moving to Germany I had to use google.de to get anything useful.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:09:04 PM

@lillymunster don't trust google. i use both, google.de and google.com.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:10:15 PM

Weird, encoding is greyed out in chrome. I was able to modify it a few weeks ago to read a JP page that was using a strange encoding for the JP characters
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:10:55 PM

@lillymunster maybe it is standard unicode. that is the most modern encoding.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:12:00 PM

Yet another thing that needs a more international structure, the net. There is tons of Chernobyl info but it resides on Ukraine web servers and links to it are within networks of Ukraine websites. Once you can find those your good, otherwise you don't see they exist.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:12:30 PM

@Edano newest version of chrome, not sure why I can't access it now
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:12:51 PM

Someone elsewhere made this map last night. These were rough points, not exact radiation stations but gives an idea of where they are seeing the iodine maps.google.com
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:14:35 PM

mankind still struggles from the babylonian tower :) i wonder when it will be overcome.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:14:50 PM

@lillymunster excellent. while russia is too far, poland seems too close...
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:17:01 PM

@Edano The internet will do it first. I just wish Google would realize this and put more manpower into their translate program. It needs much more human updating to correct for language oddities. They are almost to the point of a universal translator by putting the program on phones. They have one where you can use your camera to read a sign or paper, menu etc and get a google trans. They need to put more into the more different languages. Similar languages like English-French-German translate pretty well. Going to ones like JP still has glitches
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:17:24 PM

@Edano What is the Geography though. Don't mountains pop up in Austria? This could cause the movements we saw in Japan due to the central mountain range
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:18:23 PM

@lillymunster the alpes go through austria and switzerland, but there are no mountains north and east of it.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:19:34 PM

the clouds from the alpes rain down in south germany. that is why there was so much contamination from chernobyl. they don't make it over the mountains.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:21:13 PM

Looking for a topo map. The alps could explain part of this. Poland is north, Hitting the alps and rolling south. The rest traveling east and north unimpeded towards Denmark & Sweden?
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:21:34 PM

it seems only the eastern parts of austria are concerned, east of the beginning of the alpes.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:22:20 PM

@Edano But wasn't most of Germany not seeing anything? Warsaw is pretty far north. If things were rolling north and east it would catch a small part of Germany and then head towards Denmark
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:22:57 PM

@Edano So the Alps are involved somewhat...
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:23:17 PM

Look at this map. There is a gap between 2 mountain ranges that could explain the iodine being funneled south along the lines found while the rest traveled NE www.map-of-europe.us
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:24:30 PM

the swedish measuring is quite far north. we did not have southern winds, these are very rare. mainly east and north winds prevailing.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:25:22 PM

@Edano Odd then why would Denmark & Sweden be seeing more?
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:26:14 PM

@lillymunster that is why i think it stems from more east than poland.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:27:03 PM

Moscow doesn't have a medical reactor I don't think.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:30:24 PM

@lillymunster yes, see, nothing from south. but the jet streams are high, on the ground it's different.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:30:35 PM

There is a research reactor in Moscow at their insititue en.wikipedia.org
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:31:18 PM

@Edano They do start north over central Germany. Wondering if we could have gotten some sort of swirl effect.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:32:24 PM

With the jetstreams you would think Austria would have higher readings that Denmark.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:33:13 PM

Website of Moscow Inst in EN www.mephi.ru
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:35:54 PM

@lillymunster if you vote for the jet streams (which are constant over the year), then scandinavia could not have had contamination from chernobyl. the jet streams are too high. :)
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:35:54 PM

Obinsk nuke engineering school is just south of Moscow www.iate.obninsk.ru
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:38:02 PM

@Edano true. So this traveled on lower air currents. Those lower currents would still be subject to the alps but not sure about the areas north
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:38:48 PM

@lillymunster www.mephi.ru if you want to leave the homepage.
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:39:38 PM

@Edano but only i-131 is present. This is the confusing part. Any nuclear power accident would throw out other isotopes.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:42:03 PM

@you Parts of that website are locked down, odd. They have lots of programs that might deal with radio-iodine and work closely with Rosatom. I wonder if the school is doing something they don't have to announce to IAEA?
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:43:43 PM

@lillymunster i am sure they do some nasty secret stuff around moscow. :)
by Edano 11/12/2011 2:44:35 PM

@Edano I wondered about waste storage also. With the short half life of i-131 they would have to amass a huge amount of waste in a short period of time and burn it to get a release like that. Most medical incinterators have filters.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:44:48 PM

@Edano If the reactor in Poland isn't the culprit. The Moscow school would be my second pick and the medical reactor further out in Russia maybe third
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 2:45:31 PM