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@Edano I believe so. He has set the foundations for a successful second term. Let's hope he doesn't lose the Senate's support along the way.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:02:19 PM

Chernobyl would fit the map. That was my question last night. Is Chernobyl still capable of fresh fission?
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:04:30 PM

Far eastern Russia (Mayak) and Semipalatinsk are unlikely sources. We have a bunch of rad stations between them and the iodine area that showed no spikes.
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:05:46 PM

@Pedro Jesus yes, agreed, he could not be brilliant with bush's debris.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:05:54 PM

@lillymunster Isn't there a radiation monitoring station in Chernobyl?
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:06:01 PM

@Edano it couldn't be worse than the first
by bo 11/15/2011 5:06:16 PM

chernobyl is interesting. we should look for the fuel there.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:07:28 PM

@Pedro Jesus struggling right now to find ANY monitoring stations in Ukraine. That is what we really need right now to crack this.
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:07:32 PM

@bo I'm afraid I have to disagree. If he loses the Senate along the way, it could get worse considering the current European and worldwide economic crisis.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:08:40 PM

@Pedro Jesus that would just be more of the same
by bo 11/15/2011 5:09:14 PM

@bo Well, we thought the same about
Portugal and look at us now... even with a majority Government with total Presidential and Parliament support we are going through the worst crisis since the 1974 revolution.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:11:47 PM

Momentan werden in den Reaktorblöcken 1 bis 3 die Brennstäbe entfernt.[11] Diese Demontagearbeiten laufen wie geplant, und 2010 kam es zu keinen Vorfällen im gesamten Kernkraftwerk. Aus dem Reaktorblock 3 wurden 2010 insgesamt 891 Brennstäbe zum Nasslager ISF-1 transportiert, 134 Brennstäbe verblieben (?) zunächst im Kühlwasser des Reaktors. Bis September 2010 liefen diverse Reparaturarbeiten, um auf den Winter vorbereitet zu sein. Im Süden und Norden von Block vier wurden bis September Fundamente für den neuen Sarkophag gebaut, welcher durch das Novarka Konsortium entworfen wurde. Das Abfallbehandlungsgebäude für flüssige radioaktive Abfälle (englisch Liquid Radioactive Waste Treatment Plant, kurz LRTP) ist noch nicht fertiggestellt. Weiterhin werden im gesamten Kernkraftwerk kleinere Wartungsarbeiten und die Installation von weiteren Sicherheitseinrichtungen, wie zum Beispiel speziellen Türen oder Brandschutzanlagen, durchgeführt.
Die 740 Millionen Euro für den neuen Sarkophag sind aufgebracht worden, dadurch kann laut Präsident Wiktor Janukowitsch noch dieses Jahr mit dem Bau begonnen werden, der bis 2015 abgeschlossen werden soll.
de.wikipedia.org

Currently are located in the reactor units 1 through 3, the fuel rods. [11] This run dismantling as planned, and 2010, there were no incidents in the entire nuclear power plant. From the reactor block 3 2010 fuel rods for a total of 891 wet storage ISF-1 were transported, 134 fuel rods remaining (?) Initially in the reactor cooling water. Until September 2010, ran various repair works to be prepared for the winter. In the south and north of block four were built to September foundations for the new sarcophagus, which was designed by the consortium Novarka. The waste treatment building for liquid radioactive waste (English Liquid Radioactive Waste Treatment Plant, just LRTP) is not yet completed. Furthermore, in the entire nuclear power plant maintenance and minor installation of additional safety devices, such as special doors or fire protection systems, carried out.
The € 740 million for the new sarcophagus have been applied, this can, according to President Viktor Yanukovich later this year, started the construction to be completed by 2015.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:15:39 PM

@lillymunster Just out of curiosity: on the Portuguese RADNET website you can request graphic analysis by inputting the start and end date. Some spikes can be seen, although all within normal levels. Maybe if you cross those graphs with other data from stations in other countries you can have an idea of what is going on. Let me know if you need help with the language but it should be easy since the technical words are very similar to English words.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:16:30 PM

@Pedro Jesus will see what I can get.
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:24:30 PM

"About 1,000 Ukrainian Chernobyl "liquidators" tried Tuesday to storm parliament in Kiev and broke down the metal barrier around the building." www.google.com
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:26:30 PM

If Cain or Romney win we are toast in the US. Both are bought and paid for by Koch Industries. Cain is literally on their payroll. If Obama wins there is at least the possibility of some gains or at least less destruction. The big problem is that all of our political candidates are under big corporate influence and both parties are much so too. When the head of a wall street bank can call the coordinator of the Dems in Congress and bark orders at him we are all screwed. I think the next election is about damage control and then figure out what is next. /political rant
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:28:08 PM

One of Switzerland’s leading nuclear utilities, Axpo, has said it will stop receiving shipments of uranium supplies from Russia’s controversial Mayak Chemical Combine on the grounds that the company has not been granted access to examine the Mayak area’s environment first hand. Charles Digges, 15/11-2011

The move by Axpo represents growing trend of European mistrust toward the Mayak Chemical combine – located in the Ural Mountain in the Chelyabinsk Region – over issues of radioactive contamination and environmental unsuitability surrounding the site.

Germany in December of 2010 refused to repatriate Soviet-origin highly enriched uranium from a formerly East German research reactor to the Mayak, defying a US-Russian nonproliferation agreement, on the basis that Mayak was too environmentally unsafe to hold or reprocess the spent fuel. Germany decided its own facilities in Arhaus were safer. One of Switzerland’s leading nuclear utilities, Axpo, has said it will stop receiving shipments of uranium supplies from Russia’s controversial Mayak Chemical Combine on the grounds that the company has not been granted access to examine the Mayak area’s environment first hand. Charles Digges, 15/11-2011

The move by Axpo represents growing trend of European mistrust toward the Mayak Chemical combine – located in the Ural Mountain in the Chelyabinsk Region – over issues of radioactive contamination and environmental unsuitability surrounding the site.

Germany in December of 2010 refused to repatriate Soviet-origin highly enriched uranium from a formerly East German research reactor to the Mayak, defying a US-Russian nonproliferation agreement, on the basis that Mayak was too environmentally unsafe to hold or reprocess the spent fuel. Germany decided its own facilities in Arhaus were safer.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:28:38 PM

@lillymunster Just found out something weird at the Funchal (Island of Madeira, off Portuguese west Atlantic coast). Somewhere between November 3 and 5 there is an increase in background average radiation, although in other inland stations (east from Madeira) there is no strange fluctuations. Whatever was detected there didn't come from the east (from Europe).
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:28:48 PM

I meant the Funchal station. I'm a bit dyslexic today. Sorry about that. Need some coffee.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:31:01 PM

can't find anything about the actual chernobyl situation.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:39:41 PM

@Pedro Jesus Finding jumps on almost all the Portugal stations between Nov 11 and 14. Will look at EUDEP and see what they show
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:42:38 PM

IAEA urges Japan to secure permanent sites for radioactive waste

VIENNA, Nov. 15, Kyodo

A team of experts from the International Atomic Energy Agency submitted a final report to the Japanese government on Tuesday urging Tokyo to secure permanent sites for radioactive waste from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear crisis.

In the report, the team, which visited Japan last month to assist the Japanese government in planning decontamination efforts, also noted there is a possibility that most of the radioactive waste in urban areas does not have to be placed in temporary storage spaces because of extremely low radiation levels.

It urges the Japanese government to make use of existing waste disposal plants for such waste and concentrate its decontamination efforts on areas where greater gains can be secured than expending them on forests. english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:44:34 PM

i guess it maybe impossible to find a permanent site on this small island being tossed around by three tectonic plates.
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:47:11 PM

@lillymunster Yes, there are some spikes but I can't make any sense of them. The Funchal graphic, however is intriguing because it is not a spike but a consistent rise in background radiation, comparing to the average before November. There was no such rise throughout the year.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:48:28 PM

This is typical of what I am seeing in Portgual on EUDEP
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:48:34 PM

Yes@lillymunster, Cain is totaly pro uranium mining. www.youtube.com
by Liz 11/15/2011 5:48:46 PM

funchal is soooo far away..... ???
by Edano 11/15/2011 5:49:42 PM

@lillymunster There's a gap of data around the 6th, where the «anomaly» I found starts
in the Funchal graphic.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:51:39 PM

@Edano It is but because our background radiation is in the nano scale the detectors are set to detect very low levels of radiation, so there could be some traces of emissions from elsewhere. To throw some humour on this, I believe whenever a nuclear submarine cruises the North Atlantic we get spikes in our rad graphs.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:55:00 PM

@Pedro Jesus is there a way to change the date range on the Portugal radnet?
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:56:25 PM

Spain and western France are not showing spikes.
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 5:59:25 PM

@lillymunster You can set the date range as you wish. When using the Graficos function, just click on the start and end dates and a calendar comes up.
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 5:59:50 PM

in reference to the increase in radiation levels in Europe and lilly's observations re:Funchal - could the radiation source be from a nuclear sub or ship?
by TED 11/15/2011 6:02:27 PM

@lillymunster Oops, forgot to say, after you set the dates you need to click on Desenhar Graficos (Draw Graph).
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 6:02:58 PM

@all Apologies for a one track mind on my part. First it was Krsko and know Metsamor....Metsamor has been shaking quite a bit latey. History is here earthquaketrack.com
by smoss 11/15/2011 6:03:31 PM

@Pedro Jesus - really odd. The EUDEP for Portugal show nothing out of the ordinary at any station for Oct to now. Portugal's radnet stations all show a jump on the 14th november. Funchal shows a consistent elevation a few days into November but less than the jumps on the 14th everywhere. Not sure what to make of all of this
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 6:04:30 PM

@all The peak ground acceleration value for the site near Metzamor is determined at 0,35 g. armenia-new-npp.com
by smoss 11/15/2011 6:04:56 PM

@smoss we still have no explanation why Krsko was showing radiation around the plant.
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 6:05:16 PM

@TED I'm curious about that.

@lillymunster Weird stuff, hey!
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 6:05:55 PM

I have to go now. See you all later in the early hours (GMT).
by Pedro Jesus 11/15/2011 6:07:17 PM

@TED basically, we could rule out nuke plants, submarines and chernobyl, since only iodine 131 was detected, not cesium.
by Edano 11/15/2011 6:09:14 PM

Iranian officials admitted Sunday that they had uncovered evidence of the Duqu computer virus -- labeled "Son of Stuxnet" by cyber experts -- at the Islamic Republic's nuclear sites, state-controlled IRNA news agency reported. "We are in the initial phase of fighting the Duqu virus," Gholamreza Jalali, was quoted as saying. "The final report which says which organizations the virus has spread to and what its impacts are has not been completed yet."Duqu is the second major weaponized virus to turn computers into lethal weapons with devastating destructive power. The new program, discovered by Symantec in mid-October with the help of an unnamed research lab, uses much of the same code as the 2010 Stuxnet virus did. But instead of destroying the systems it infects, Duqu secretly penetrates them and, according to some experts, creates “back door” vulnerabilities that can be exploited to destroy the networks at any time its creators may choose. The original Stuxnet malware was the culmination of a vast technical and espionage effort that had only one target in mind: the Iranian nuclear program. And is widely believed to be the work of the United States and Israel. Experts who looked at the program were amazed at its ability to penetrate Iran’s secure, highly protected security system and destroy it without being detected Its success set back the Iranian nuclear program for years. Roel Schouwenberg, a senior researcher with security analysis firm Kaspersky, told Computerworld on Monday that the new revelations of attacks are not the first: Iran described similar attacks in April and pegged them to a virus it called "stars." That was Duqu too, Schouwenberg said.
"We're convinced, in at least one of these Duqu attacks, that the keylogger Iran identified as Stars was actually the same as the one included with Duqu," he said.
According to Computerworld, Kaspersky blamed Iran for not sharing the Stars malware with other countries, a move that delayed the public disclosure of the threat.
www.foxnews.com
by Liz 11/15/2011 6:18:23 PM

I ran into the page for Ukraine's nuclear energy oversight office. I can find details on NPP's and one news mention about radiation levels at one NPP (nothing odd) but no link to a radiation network. mpe.kmu.gov.ua
by lillymunster 11/15/2011 6:19:35 PM

@lillymunster Spikes can also be caused by solar flares (more precisely coronal mass ejections), and even a power surge can show up on instrumentation as rad. I think there was a big CME around the 14th Nov.
by M.I.A. 11/15/2011 6:23:55 PM