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  • In Wake of Fukushima Disaster, Japan's Scientists Ponder How to Regain Public Trust
    news.sciencemag.org
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 1:47:57 AM

  • Sorry, had to run to the bank. There has been a lot of talk in the non-proliferation community that part of Japan's reluctance to end nuclear power is based on reserving the option to weaponize their fuel. Here, there is a long lingering feeling that Japan may need to develop weapons to keep China in check (US likes that) or to intimidate North Korea. Many right wingers in Japan believe that Japan should simply develop them and take its "rightful" place among the nuclear powers.
    by bo 11/30/2011 1:59:56 AM

  • Trying to get 10 million signatures opposing nuclear power and a 3-11-2012 national march in Japan sayonara-nukes.org
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:08:23 AM

  • @bo Is this a factor in other countries where they have been reluctant to end nukes? UK and US comes to mind
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:09:12 AM

  • TEPCO now injecting nitrogen direct to reactor pressure vessels at No. 1 and No. 2 Fukushima Daiichi plants at 28 and 26 m³/hr respectively
    via Twitter - atomicnews
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:11:42 AM

  • I think that is surely true. No country that is committed to maintaining a nuclear weapon program can do that without nuclear power plants as a means of producing plutonium. This is especially true for countries that maintain arsenals of thermonuclear weapons
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:12:08 AM

  • Remember, the very first nuclear power plants on earth were in Hanford, and were built explicitly to produce plutonium. They did not contribute electrical power to the civilian grid.
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:12:47 AM

  • @bo I would assume a country like the US with such a stockpile of plutonium they can't seem to find a way to get rid of wouldn't need more. Tritium seems to be the ongoing need due to shorter half life. Why the US stepped over the line to start producing it in a civil reactor seems rather foolish.
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:14:35 AM

  • The US military is always planning decades, or even longer, into the future. Hence all of the current work on weaponizing insects. That won't pan out for years, but the contracts are there. In their imagination about how the US remains a dominant global power for millennium, a steady supply of plutonium under your own control is elemental (sorry). They can imagine scenarios in which they are denied access to this stockpile, from terror, from espionage, etc...
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:18:13 AM

  • Aeon and others promoting Fukushima produce. "It's all been tested" ajw.asahi.com
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:24:02 AM

  • @bo I suppose then having a network of civilian reactors around a country creates that redundancy if one gets taken out. Though that just sounds like total insanity.
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:26:49 AM

  • More apologist pater from a U-Tennessee (read: Oak Ridge NL) prof on Fukushima and the safety of nuclear power: tnjn.com
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:33:03 AM

  • Towns avoid governmental help for decontamination because of fear that would lead to stigma: www.yomiuri.co.jp
    by bo 11/30/2011 2:34:33 AM

  • [Shizuoka] cesium over control values, and dried shiitake to waste
    www.yomiuri.co.jp
    The old town area harvested Nakaizu Izu, Shizuoka Prefecture, from the processed and dried shiitake mushroom, the country's interim regulation (500 becquerel per kilogram) was detected radioactive cesium in excess of 572 Becquerel, and before the district 617 boxes of dried shiitake total Shuzenji old town district of cesium has been detected over control values ​​(20 pounds per box) and was expected to be dropped.

     Meanwhile, the old town was Toi below regulatory limits, for the two districts of the city dry shiitake 天城湯Ke島 former 29th county, was released a request for restraint and recalling the factory.

     County on August 8 last month, announced the discovery of 599 becquerels of cesium from dried shiitake mushrooms harvested in the same district, the city's old town Shuzenji for dried shiitake mushrooms were produced throughout the city since March 11, refrain from shipping made the request and recall. Thereafter, the samples investigated nine county districts except District 3 city Shuzenji old town, cesium has been detected from more than one specimen of which the regulations.

     Dried shiitake mushrooms produced in the city for spring, the city conducted a voluntary survey, 21 this month, "It was all below the regulation" was announced. Now, farmers produced a dried mushroom cesium has been detected over control values, which were examined in the voluntary survey in Izu, this time it was lower than 278 becquerel regulatory limits.

     Doi former county town, for the second district of the city 天城湯Ke島 old refrain for canceling a shipment request was to be able to ship 629 boxes out of the box including 1246 that are stored in JA. Equivalent to 47 minutes of farmers.

    ( November 30, 2011 Yomiuri Shimbun)
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:36:23 AM

  • An email from a professor at Sophia contains some fascinating points:

    H-Japan
    November 29, 2011


    Online Editor: David Wittner <dwittner@utica.edu>


    Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:01:26 +0900
    From: David H. Slater <dhslater@gmail.com>
    Subject: Levels of contamination: kegare in official designations,
    in community activism, in young bodies

    As the process of decontamination in Tohoku gets going, we see a range of
    often chilling representations and bad options, pollution and risk
    everywhere. "Contamination" today goes beyond the early reports of
    avoidance behavior and school bullying. Fear of this stigmatization is
    forcing some townships to forgo governmental relief and retarding local
    protest efforts. These fears and choices are being played out in
    municipalities, communities and individual images of life course.


    Municipality Funding

    In yesterday's Yomiuri there was an article about municipalities that have
    refused governmental help with the decontamination processes for fear of
    stigmatization. '"If the government designates our city [as subject to
    intensive investigation of radiation contamination], the entire city will
    be seen as contaminated. We decided to avoid such a risk," a senior
    municipal government official said. Another official is quoted: "If our
    town receives the designation, it may deliver a further blow to our image,
    already damaged by radiation fears." This, despite the fact these townships have already received excessive radiation measurements. Usually, the townships are afraid of hurting tourism or exports of agricultural
    products, but often the cost of decontamination is too high for them to pay
    themselves. Here is the English version of the article:
    www.yomiuri.co.jp



    In Community Activism

    In a set of interviews that I have been doing among Fukushima women
    anti-nuke activists, one explained that it was very hard to enlist other
    women from her community for similar reasons. "It is sort of crazy--even
    though these women are afraid of radiation, and even though they actually
    know that areas all around [their children's school] have high radiation,
    they do not want to say anything.... because they are afraid of the being
    singled out." This activist was frustrated with the other mothers, angry
    because their reluctance to say anything weakened the voice of the
    community in taking a unified position. She also understood their
    reluctance, albeit with some impatience. "I know, I know. If you object,
    then you are also bringing attention to yourself and maybe worse, to your
    community, as dirty, as full of radiation. I know that story." But she
    said, "If we do not say anything, are we really protecting our community or even our families?" Later in a more reflective moment in the interview,
    when she was acknowledging the ambiguous progress that activism has made,
    she said "We mothers know that activism might puts these ideas into other
    people's heads sometimes, and this might hurt us, mark us, for years. It is
    a hard situation, knowing what to do."


    In Young Bodies

    In my class on oral narrative of disaster, one group of my students at
    Sophia U. is interviewing another group of college students from Fukushima
    University, old high school friends now separated by radiation. The result
    is alarmingly direct, intimate interviews. (Besides being gifted
    interviewers, they are also of the same age, which seems to be important.)
    In one interview, a Fukushima college student addressed her own fears in a
    way that frightened my students. She resents those who call it the
    "Fukushima" disaster, marking everyone who lives in the prefecture. And
    yet, she also called herself contaminated, using the work *kegare*, a
    Shinto term meaning unclean, impure, defiled. She wondered, seemingly more to herself than to the interviewers, if she would ever marry or have
    children, knowing that this is how she will be thought of, knowing this is
    how she thinks about herself. Then she snapped out of it to explain the
    many active and constructive programs and events that the young people in
    her college relief and support club were doing, how they were looking ahead
    (*mae muki*) to a fresh start to the next year.


    Not knowing how far to push this religious connection, my understanding is
    that usually *kegare* is the result of natural occurring contamination,
    unlike *tsumi*, which is more the result of human transgression. If
    radiation were considered *tsumi* would there be some transgressive agent
    who might be held responsible (Tepco)? In either case, is purification
    possible? If so, does it coincide with the on-going decontamination
    procedures? In any case, radiation is not just science nor just ritual
    pollution, but because now it involves official government designation and
    the transfer of funds (or not), these labels have consequences beyond the
    reports of random discrimination that occurred almost as soon as people
    began to evacuate. By linking contamination to official nomenclature and
    funding schemes, marks of contamination might last far longer than the
    excessive levels of radiation.

    --
    David H. Slater
    Sophia U.

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    by bo 11/30/2011 2:36:54 AM

  • @Bo,, is it possible to use some of that in quoting for an article?
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:47:26 AM

  • Official in Date City, Fukushima: "Residents Here Think They are the Victims of Accident Caused by TEPCO"

    An official from Date City explained the situation in the city, saying "Even when we explain how to decontaminate to the residents of the city, they have this victim mentality of "TEPCO should do it", and they don't cooperate readily."

    ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 2:53:21 AM

  • Tepco is now denying that Unit 2 had an internal explosions, as had been the story : www.youtube.com
    by Ian 11/30/2011 3:33:14 AM

  • Sorry, was at lunch. I know, always some excuse. I can email the author of the article and ask him for his content to have it used in an article, and also ask if he would like to connect to our humble community. I have seen emails from him on this list before, and by the way, anyone can subscribe to this list. I'll post the access info in a minute, and will email him today.
    by bo 11/30/2011 3:51:21 AM

  • H-Japan, part of the H-net network: www.h-net.org
    by bo 11/30/2011 3:52:08 AM

  • @bo cool thanks!

    Now for my excuse - off to bed! :-)
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 3:57:10 AM

  • Take care @lilly!
    by bo 11/30/2011 4:24:36 AM

  • by Ian 11/30/2011 5:59:09 AM

  • Wow @Ian, thanks.
    by bo 11/30/2011 6:21:29 AM

  • If you look at other topics in the magazine, it is primarily concerned with stories about Muslims and Muslim nations such as Pakistan, Turkey and Turkish immigrants. Nothing wrong with that, but they do have a point of view.
    Right-wing terror and the Muslims. The role of the secret services in Germany is the subject of heated debate. By Khalil Breuer Hard against Muslims, gentle with rightists
    www.globaliamagazine.com
    by artnuke edited by bo 11/30/2011 6:53:48 AM

  • "Norway mass murder suspect is insane, police say"

    " The man accused of killing 77 people in a terrorist rampage that shook Norway last summer is insane and cannot be sentenced to prison or preventive detention, but can be confined to a mental hospital for the rest of his life, police said Tuesday."
    by Pedro Jesus 11/30/2011 7:07:32 AM

  • Oops, forgot the link: edition.cnn.com
    by Pedro Jesus 11/30/2011 7:08:03 AM

  • bump
    by Edano 11/30/2011 10:40:06 AM

  • Melted nuclear fuel eroded reactor container by up to 65 cm: TEPCO

    TOKYO, Nov. 30, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 11/30/2011 10:48:13 AM

  • Fukushima recovery plan will seek scrapping of every reactor in pref.

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Nov. 30, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 11/30/2011 10:48:58 AM

  • Japan's nuclear accords with 4 countries due to clear parliament

    TOKYO, Nov. 30, Kyodo

    Japan's bilateral civil nuclear cooperation accords with Jordan, Russia, South Korea and Vietnam could take effect in December, with Diet deliberations on them beginning Wednesday despite public concerns about exporting atomic technology in the wake of the Fukushima disaster.

    The accords, which will lay the legal foundations for Japanese companies to supply nuclear equipment and technology to other countries, are expected to be approved by the House of Representatives on Dec. 2, lawmakers said.

    If all goes smoothly, they will come into force next year after also being approved by the House of Councillors during the current parliament session, which ends Dec. 9 unless extended. english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 11/30/2011 10:50:03 AM

  • morning! (afternoon-evening)
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 12:15:27 PM

  • @lillymunster Hello =) Two good news today. The Norwegian mass murderer will be incarcerated for the rest of his life in a mental institution and Conrad Murray got maximum possible sentence.
    by Pedro Jesus 11/30/2011 12:20:49 PM

  • Melted nuclear fuel eroded reactor container by up to 65 cm: TEPCO

    TOKYO, Nov. 30, Kyodo

    The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant said Wednesday that the concrete base of the No. 1 reactor container had been eroded by up to 65 centimeters when the fuel inside melted, although the steel container itself was left intact.

    According to Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s analysis, all of the fuel inside the No. 1 reactor melted after cooling functions failed in the wake of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, with a substantial amount of the fuel melting through the base of the reactor pressure vessel and dropping into the outer primary container.

    If the erosion had expanded another 37 cm, the damage would have reached the steel wall, according to the utility known as TEPCO.

    As for the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors, which also experienced meltdowns, the amount of fuel that dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel is estimated to be around 60 percent.

    The bottom of the two reactors' pressure vessels is unlikely to have been damaged on a large scale. But if the fuel had melted through the vessels, the primary container of the No. 2 reactor could have been eroded by 12 cm and that of the No. 3 reactor by 20 cm, TEPCO said.

    Currently, the melted fuel inside the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors is believed to be cooled by water injection and no further erosion is occurring, it said.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:30:57 PM

  • @lillymunster very cool,our subscription ! :)
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:31:14 PM

  • i bet there is no corium left in #1 vessel.
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:32:45 PM

  • Fukushima recovery plan will seek scrapping of every reactor in pref.

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Nov. 30, Kyodo

    The Fukushima prefectural government will call for the decommissioning of all 10 reactors in the prefecture in its reconstruction plan to be compiled by the year-end, following the nuclear disaster triggered by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, Gov. Yuhei Sato said Wednesday.

    The policy is in line with a petition adopted by the prefectural assembly in October, and seeks to have the six reactors at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s Fukushima Daiichi plant and the four reactors at its Fukushima Daini plant nearby scrapped in the wake of the crisis at the Daiichi plant.

    In an outline of the recovery plan, the prefectural government had already declared its policy of breaking away from nuclear power.

    Sato has said he took the assembly's move seriously and it would be ''impossible'' to resume operations at the two plants.

    Of the six reactor units at the Daiichi plant, the operator known as TEPCO and the central government have decided to decommission four troubled reactors. But they have yet to say whether the remaining two reactors at the Daiichi plant and the four at the Daini plant will be decommissioned.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:33:43 PM

  • www3.nhk.or.jp

    TEPCO: Melted fuel ate into containment vessel

    The operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has announced the results of an analysis on the state of melted fuel in the plant's Number 1 unit.

    The Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, and several research institutes made public their analyses on the melting of fuel rods at 3 of the plant's units at a government-sponsored study meeting on Wednesday. The analyses were based on temperatures, amounts of cooling water and other data.

    TEPCO said that in the worse case, all fuel rods in the plant's Number 1 reactor may have melted and dropped through its bottom into a containment vessel. The bottom of the vessel is concrete covered with a steel plate.

    The utility said the fuel may have eroded the bottom to a depth of 65 centimeters. The thinnest part of the section is only 37 centimeters thick.

    TEPCO also said as much as 57 percent of the fuel in the plant's Number 2 reactor and 63 percent in the Number 3 reactor may have melted, and that some of the melted fuel may have fallen through reactor vessels.

    Wednesday, November 30, 2011 20:02 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp

    by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 11/30/2011 12:36:28 PM

  • the nhk article is very different from the kyodo one.
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:39:05 PM

  • there is no steel plate (= corium catcher) at the bottom of the containment vessel. ???
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:40:11 PM

  • this cannot be correct. this is a bunch of desinformation. what do they mean with 65 cm erosion ? the containment bottom ? it is only 37 cm thick ??? that means china syndrome. or what ?
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:44:19 PM

  • the kyodo article. if you add 65 + 37 cm this means more than 1m of concrete container ??? they won't tell us that the walls are 1 m thick ?
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:46:22 PM

  • i hope we get better info on this.
    by Edano 11/30/2011 12:48:03 PM

  • www3.nhk.or.jp

    Fukushima to call for scrapping all reactors

    The governor of Fukushima Prefecture in northern Japan says he will ask the government and Tokyo Electric Power Company to decommission all nuclear reactors in the prefecture.

    Fukushima hosts a total of 10 nuclear reactors, including 6 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. Four of those were crippled in the March 11th earthquake and tsunami.

    Governor Yuhei Sato told reporters on Wednesday that the prefecture's reconstruction plan will call for the scrapping of all the reactors. The plan prioritizes the safety of children.

    Sato said prefectural authorities reached the decision after discussing the impact that the decommissioning would have on employment, the economy and the finances of local municipalities.

    He added that the prefecture will do its best to create jobs for people who currently work at nuclear plants.

    Sato is the first governor of a prefecture hosting nuclear plants to demand the decommissioning of nuclear facilities following a serious accident.

    Officials in Fukushima will finalize the draft of the reconstruction plan on Thursday, and they aim to make a final decision on it by the end of the year.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company has already decided to decommission the 4 severely damaged reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. The utility also says it will consult with local authorities about what to do with the remaining 6 reactors.

    Under normal operating conditions, the 10 reactors have a total generating capacity of 9 million kilowatts per hour, accounting for 19 percent of all nuclear power generated in Japan.

    Wednesday, November 30, 2011 19:25 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp

    by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 11/30/2011 12:49:16 PM

  • Those containments should be 1m thick with steel liner. The bottom has concrete poured into the curve to provide a flat surface for the pedestal and other equipment, worker access etc. It also doesn't say HOW they came to this conclusion. I think that is more important than the statement of how much they think eroded is how they came to that conclusion.

    What I think this is, is warming people up for more bad news. TEPCO ordered some special cameras from a Swedish firm. The company has all of their corporate and product information behind a login so they must make something rather interesting. So I would not be surprised if they started some sort of drilling to send in cameras ala Chernobyl.
    by lillymunster 11/30/2011 12:58:00 PM

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