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@lillymunster how long did it take in chernobyl ? years. they have to drill holes in the containment and they won't do it until the corium is definitely stable. they are years away from being sure.

@lillymunster the story they tell us is just too convenient to be true.

I need to go look. IIRC they sent cameras into chernobyl looking for corium fairly early?

@Edano two hatch doors to containment, access to SC would be easy via drill & camera

Chernobyl actually inserted cameras after about 6 months, from the Wiki:

During the construction of the sarcophagus, a scientific team re-entered the reactor as part of an investigation dubbed "Complex Expedition", to locate and contain nuclear fuel in a way that could not lead to another explosion. These scientists manually collected cold fuel rods, but great heat was still emanating from the core. Rates of radiation in different parts of the building were monitored by drilling holes into the reactor and inserting long metal detector tubes. The scientists were exposed to high levels of radiation and radioactive dust. After six months of investigation, in December 1986, they discovered with the help of a remote camera an intensely radioactive mass in the basement of Unit Four, more than two metres wide and weighing hundreds of tons, which they called "the elephant's foot" for its wrinkled appearance. The mass was composed of sand, glass and a large amount of nuclear fuel that had escaped from the reactor. The concrete beneath the reactor was steaming hot, and was breached by solidified lava and spectacular unknown crystalline forms termed chernobylite. It was concluded that there was no further risk of explosion.[43]

the only thermometer from the drywell is in the hvh return air duct, besides those in the torus. the return air still has 50°.

So based on Chernobyl and the current time frame at Fuku they could drill and insert cameras now or very soon. I keep seeing hints of Chernobyl in TEPCO's actions. I think they may be following the minor details of Chernobyl for a road map.

@lillymunster yes, but in chernobyl they had lower floors that they could enter.

but on the other hand, the scientists would probably be too hesitant, so they need politicians to pull the trigger.

@Edano the problem is the politics wants to ignore reality. They could very likely try to open the evac zone before it is really safe. Honestly it probably won't ever be safe there. Look at Chernobyl. 25 years later most of it is still above safe levels to live in the region. A few people live in a town down the road to support the workers
and some stray old people that refused to leave

@lillymunster no, from the science point of view, it will never be safe.

@all - going to try to assemble all the info etc. on TEPCO's new claim into an article today. If you have thoughts, speculation, bits of information please post so I can include them

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Nothing on TEPPY, checked TBS - very grainy and blurry. Something VERY bright orange that gets bright, dies down. Can't tell for sure if it is fire but too big to be something like a warning light on a vehicle.

via teppy cam there is a faint yellow reflection on 4 and 3 from time to time, they have the spotlight turned on 3 & 4 but that is frequently on. Not seeing a ton of smoke or steam. Some small wafts.

What's the red off the roof of #2?

Someone call TBS and tell them to FOCUS THE CAMERA! :-)

I don't think it is a light like a truck warning light. The shape and pattern of it waxing and waning is erratic and the shape and timing just changed. It is wider when it gets bright.

@bo they have equipment and huts along that road. All the filtering and pumping equipment is on truck flatbeds or similar skids so it could be anything as far as equipment on fire. I don't know if hydrogen could leak and burn like that without exploding or if they could get a leak that far away from the reactor building. Maybe something with diesel fuel on fire?

I just mean that it is aerosolizing the contaminants in the soil.