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@MaryW Japan counterparts were too busy, out of contact or mid-crisis. There seemed to be no reporting system to share info to other countries. The NRC comments that showed how worried they were about it is interesting contrast to their now public statements how this is all no big deal and nuclear power is totally safe BS.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:36:23 PM

Oh, this makes me want to weep. First clue that the gov't and mainstream media 'managed' Fuku is: "But the fallout from Fukushima is far less than expected, and it is clear that the United States will not follow Germany in abandoning nuclear energy. Horrific as the Fukushima meltdown was, it's unlikely to have anywhere near the impact that Three Mile Island had, and nothing like the deadening effects of Chernobyl." energybiz.com
by M.I.A. 12/1/2011 8:36:32 PM

@M.I.A. We know it was managed hard. There was an absolute shutdown of any discussion about impact here or even the accident soon after it happened.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:42:47 PM

Added an update to the website with the NHK extraction story
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:43:28 PM

@M.I.A. i cannot quite follow that statement. germany, switzerland, italy abandoned nuke power, and japan has >80% of their nukes down. sellafield closed, siemens is out of business. america is not the whole world.
by Edano 12/1/2011 8:44:35 PM

The light flickering is more visible on TEPCO cam. You can see it reflecting up as it intensifies
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:44:57 PM

@Edano To the nuke industry hacks in the US...it is.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:45:25 PM

maybe i misinterpreted the word "anywhere".
by Edano 12/1/2011 8:46:46 PM

belgium (i think) will follow shutting down its nukes.
by Edano 12/1/2011 8:48:02 PM

@Edano The US nuke industry is delusional. They write a piece somewhere every day saying that Fuku won't dent the nuke industries revival. They think if they repeat it often enough it will come true. Greed. pure greed. Nothing more than trying to keep their business model alive.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:50:52 PM

Going to duck out to run some errands. Will check in on my Nook in case we get more news.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:51:16 PM

fire died down - still there, smaller. TBS finally woke up and hit the focus button on the camera. :-)
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:51:47 PM

Dr Koide from Kyoto University on radio program admitted that he 'can not assume where the melted fuel is now because human-beings have never gone through such a crisis. TEPCO's assumption is baseless...suspects container vessel has already broken. Even in the Three Mile Island accident, they took 7 years to confirm melt down happened'. fukushima-diary.com
by MaryW edited by Edano 12/1/2011 8:56:10 PM

From Hachiko Coalition:
Tsutomu Takamura, a member of the House of Respresentative and a committee member for the Special Committee for disasters has confirmed as a member of the Japanese Government that the press release stating that the animals will be rescued is in fact TRUE and that this will indeed transpire. Mr. Takamura has stated that the Ministry of Environment and the Fukushima local officials are polishing off the plan and details will be made available.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 8:57:09 PM

@lillymunster So this must mean the breakfast sausages are finished grilling
by MaryW 12/1/2011 8:57:27 PM

I'm wondering if these rescued animals will be releasing radioactive stools and urine
by MaryW 12/1/2011 8:58:47 PM

Sounds like a silly comment, but...
by MaryW 12/1/2011 8:59:33 PM

@MaryW no,they won't :)
by Edano 12/1/2011 9:00:09 PM

Did a "phone" close up from the TBS cam This was an hour ago.
by deb 12/1/2011 9:01:20 PM

Because I know cancer patients on cemo and radition tx have 'toxic' vomit
by MaryW 12/1/2011 9:02:31 PM

looks like a fire with smoke
by MaryW 12/1/2011 9:05:22 PM

Someone suggested that perhaps hydrogen is burning through venting, example crack in the ground, crack in rpv and containment or etc
by MaryW 12/1/2011 9:13:33 PM

the fire with smoke, I was referring to on to of the building at beginning of video
by MaryW 12/1/2011 9:16:10 PM

TEPCO injects nitrogen into pressure vessels

The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has started injecting nitrogen, an inert gas, into the pressure vessels of the crippled reactors to prevent another hydrogen explosion.

In late October, Tokyo Electric Power Company began extracting gases from the containment vessel of the No.2 reactor to remove radioactive substances. During the work, TEPCO found hydrogen accumulating in parts of the reactor at a density of up to 2.9 percent.

TEPCO started pumping nitrogen into the pressure vessels of the No.1, 2, 3 reactors on Thursday to lessen the concentration of hydrogen.

The density of hydrogen accumulating in the containment and pressure vessels is thought to be below 4 percent, the level where an explosion could occur.

TEPCO says the nitrogen injection will push out hydrogen and reduce its concentration.

Keeping hydrogen density low is an indispensible condition in the second step of the process decided upon by the government and TEPCO to resolve the nuclear accident. They are aiming to achieve a state of cold shutdown for the reactors by the end of the year.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency plans to assess how well TEPCO can manage hydrogen levels.

Friday, December 02, 2011 05:02 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 12/1/2011 9:25:52 PM

The faint orange glow over Unit 2 www.youtube.com happens to appear exactly in the same line-of-sight space as the crane. Which implies it might be a yellow/orange electric light located on the opposite side of Unit 2 is shinning on it. This in turn might suggest that the yellowish light on the S side of Unit 3 is also just a colored electric light.
by Ian 12/1/2011 9:53:50 PM

TEPCO study chows water level in spent fuel pool was dangerously low. ...water in No 4 temporarily dropped to a level close to exposing the stored nuclear fuel. english.kyodonews.jp
by MaryW 12/1/2011 9:55:25 PM

Any changes on tbs
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 10:01:04 PM

Sounds like tepco is roundabout admitting to the burn?
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 10:01:08 PM

How much longer to day light?
by MaryW 12/1/2011 10:01:49 PM

Mary it was 5am there when I left the house.should be 6?
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 10:17:00 PM

7:17 and full daylight.
by Edano 12/1/2011 10:17:49 PM

@lillymunster In Simplyinfo, the current TBS live cam is a "This Event Has Ended" blackout
by MaryW 12/1/2011 10:28:31 PM

@Mary, what location? I need to know what page has the link.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 10:56:01 PM

Maybe an old link? I still see TBS live www.youtube.com
by Ian 12/1/2011 10:58:03 PM

Daylight and can't see it now. Either they turned off or the daylight makes it invisble
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 10:58:10 PM

Hi all -I've been absent for a long while. Logged on tonight & read about the 'burn'. I think it's still going - I can see a small flame on the TBS cam to right of #3 & just above the treeline. Need full screen view to see it
by UKVal 12/1/2011 11:08:08 PM

@UKVal tried that, can see something moving in that same place, color is washed out due to the sun.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 11:09:11 PM

by Ian 12/1/2011 11:09:40 PM

hello ~ 3h stuck in mod on the other board ~ how can I ever get contact to human beings ~ I wonder how many people had tried to join as well - so even if I'd got through would I ever get a reply ?

oh well - while you investigated in the above-soil fire I hoped to leave my small findings about the under-soil molten core - this is liv/fe ;-)
by Vivre 12/1/2011 11:16:01 PM

@Vivre we don't have someone constantly here. Elaine is out on vacation.
by lillymunster 12/1/2011 11:16:39 PM

Concrete attack by Corium...Fukushima fuel rods eating through solid concrete. Dec 01.2011. Source: there is a link here to TEPCO's Nov 30th 200 page handout. Handout is full of charts and diagrams-very interesting! enenews.com
by MaryW 12/1/2011 11:18:29 PM