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  • Nuclear accident to prevent recurrence Advisory Council, "Nuclear Safety Agency" draft proposals together and securing the independence of
    To be launched in April of 2012, "Nuclear Safety Agency" (tentative) Advisory Council is considering a nuclear accident to prevent recurrence and the way of "ensuring independent" and put together a plan incorporating recommendations.
    At a meeting in two days, based on current scientific knowledge, and things like strengthening regulations and so as not to cause severe accident twice, incorporating recommendations and proposal for a system that can ensure an independent decision was.
    In addition, crisis management system, support system utilizing contingency plan expired at this time Fukushima nuclear accident (ERSS) SPEEDI or (Network Emergency Rapid radiation effect predictions), the precise even if an unforeseen and that it is desirable to develop an operational system can handle.
    This proposal was approved in principle proposals in a two-day meeting, ministers will be submitted to the nearby primary Hosono as a formal proposal. www.fnn-news.com
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:28:44 PM

  • @Edano exactly
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:28:52 PM

  • @Lilly - the s.123de-blog doesn't load for me (might try it again later)
    Nevertheless - I need to leave for now as it's time for my daily hospital visit (mums heavy surgery will be monday) - ty

    ps.: australiancannonball.com finished its daily newsround
    by Vivre 12/2/2011 2:38:02 PM

  • TEPCO reactor status update for 12-2 3pm
    Unit 2:
    At 10:25 am on December 2, we adjusted the volume of nitrogen injected
    into the Reactor Pressure Vessel from approx. 5Nm3/h to approx. 10Nm3/h.
    In addition, in order to balance the volume of nitrogen injected into the
    Reactor Pressure Vessel and the Primary Containment Vessel of Unit 2 and
    the volume of exhaust air from gas control system, we adjusted the volume
    of exhaust air from gas control system of the Primary Containment Vessel
    from approx. 34Nm3/h to approx. 39Nm3/h.

    Units 1 & 3 have this remark but no mention of new action or evacuating Hydrogen
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:46:58 PM

  • TEPCO's accident committee has released their interim report of course the documents are only in JP. www.tepco.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:49:32 PM

  • I ran across this last night and considered it curious rumor. I do not recognize the media source so know idea how reliable they are. This is a person claiming to be an IT guy and that TEPCO was locked out of some computer system at the plant so they could not manually operate it. They had the IT guy flown in to unlock the system that normally required a fingerprint scan and passwords to access. He claims when he went into the admin level of this he found what looked like a virus in the systems code. Somehow he claims this was the doings of the Russians and mentions a new controls system installed in recent years. He makes no claims that he thinks the virus caused any accident problems. www.news-postseven.com

    Strange claims, no way to validate any of them to see if this is anything more than fantasy.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:53:20 PM

  • Going through comments on EX-SKF article about TEPCO's corium claim and found this:
    Per page 21 of the MAAP Analysis that you posted earlier, the depth of the sump pit is 1.2 meters I think that is much deeper than our estimation from the elevation drawing. ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 2:56:12 PM

  • "INTERVIEW-French Areva eyes Poland's first nuclear plant" uk.reuters.com
    by Pedro Jesus 12/2/2011 3:52:59 PM

  • An interesting flaw in TEPCO's presentations. This one shows 2 meter errosion of concrete but ignores the pits seen in other images. This images shows 2.6 meters from pedestal floor to the steel liner. If you add in those two pits they show in other illustrations the corium would be through the liner and ruin their claim it is in containment. 2.bp.blogspot.com

    by lillymunster via 2.bp.blogspot 12/2/2011 3:58:13 PM

  • I keep going back to the article Jake Adelstein wrote for the Atlantic where they interviewed a number of workers that were in the plant when the quake hit. They describe in detail buckling pipes, cracks in unit 1's reactor building etc before the tsunami hit. For TEPCo to claim the tsunami did it all is just lame lying. www.theatlanticwire.com
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 4:04:58 PM

  • @lillymunster THANK YOU, this is what i was trying to remember. I knew i had seen something, but couldn't put my finger on it.
    by Panserbjorne9 12/2/2011 4:24:38 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 we also have the photo elaine found of the huge fissure in the ground that runs right up to unit 1.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 4:34:07 PM

  • Question. Inst of applied energy thinks the steel shrouds melted with the fuel. Any idea how much weight or volume they have? It would add to the corium volume. If I am reading the illustration in this document is says 34 TONS? www.irpa.net
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 4:46:23 PM

  • The big rush to TEPCO's announcement of complete cold shutdown may be a way of attempting to put silence on the Fukushima plant situation. Less and less data and updates when in what they call 'cold shutdown'.
    by MaryW 12/2/2011 4:59:17 PM

  • TEPCO says Fukushima Reactors Withstood Earthquake Jolt. Dec 02.2011. "This isn't the end of the story, TEPCO's analysis needs to be reviewed by independent experts". A report in October from the Norwegian Institute for Air Research suggested there was "some structural damage to reactor" during the earthquake that caused radiation to start leaking before the tsunami. www.businessweek.com
    by MaryW 12/2/2011 5:18:21 PM

  • *JUST IN* Guardian: TEPCO now admitting concrete "could have been penetrated"--Fukushima 'may' have narrowly averted China Syndrome. Dec 02.2011 enenews.com
    by MaryW 12/2/2011 5:24:54 PM

  • Did anyone see a recent article with TEPCO again claiming the tsunami caused the damage? I thought I saw one today or yesterday and can't find it so don't know if I am imagining things. :-)
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:25:53 PM

  • Fukushima Fuel Rods Completely Melted. Dec 02.2011. www.guardian.co.uk
    by MaryW edited by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:30:20 PM

  • fixed
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:35:17 PM

  • trying to find Peter's quote from a few days ago he cited one of the reports to the IAEA where the workers at unit 1 found elevated radiation at containment doors indicating melt down 1 hour into the disaster?
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:36:12 PM

  • @Lilly do you mean these?:

    Bloomberg helps Tepco, reminds them it was quake that damaged reactor and caused radiation to leak — BEFORE tsunami hit
    enenews.com


    Tepco Says Fukushima Reactors Withstood Earthquake Jolt, Bloomberg,
    www.businessweek.com
    hi ~ just back in
    by Vivre 12/2/2011 5:36:41 PM

  • @Vivre those will help. Peter quoted one of the reports to IAEA. I can try to do a word search on them to find the section. Was hoping maybe someone remembered what section of the report. Tried to go back to previous days and can't find it. So wish we had a search function on here.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:51:20 PM

  • I think I may have found it
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 5:55:11 PM

  • Toyota shows a hydrogen-fuel-cell sedan planed to be commercially available in 2015 in Tokyo Motor Show 2011. www.tokyo-motorshow.com
    by Pedro Jesus 12/2/2011 6:17:57 PM

  • @lillymunster this is new, that tepco uses computers. :)
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:51:55 PM

  • @lillymunster UPDATE1: Tsunami was direct cause of nuclear crisis: TEPCO investigation english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:54:03 PM

  • it was the bad weather.
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:54:28 PM

  • Kawauchi Village mayor reports on Chernobyl visit

    The mayor of a village near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has called on villagers to do their part to recover from radioactive contamination.

    Mayor Yuko Endo of Kawauchi Village was speaking on Friday at a meeting to report on his recent visit to areas of former Soviet republics that were heavily contaminated in the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident.

    About 60 people, including Kawauchi villagers, attended the meeting in Koriyama City, more than 30 kilometers away from the village.

    Endo said that children in the areas affected by the Chernobyl accident are measuring radiation levels in food and that villagers are working on farms using a contamination map produced by the local administration.

    The mayor said people he met had advised that residents of the affected areas should do whatever they can for themselves, no matter how seemingly trivial.

    Endo called on the villagers to voluntarily do what they can, so they can return home as early as possible.

    Most of the Kawauchi villagers are currently living outside of the village to avoid radioactive contamination. The village is aiming to see all evacuees return to the affected areas by March next year.

    A man in the audience said the mayor's report was very useful, adding he will carefully do his best.

    Friday, December 02, 2011 20:13 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:56:25 PM

  • UPDATE2: Tsunami was direct cause of nuclear crisis: TEPCO investigation

    TOKYO, Dec. 2, Kyodo

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Friday it has determined that the direct cause of the nuclear crisis at its Fukushima Daiichi power plant was a larger-than-expected tsunami that flooded key buildings after the March 11 earthquake, apparently defending itself from possible criticism that the accident could have been prevented.

    ''We had prepared for accidents at a certain level and had documented procedures, but, because of the impact of the tsunami far larger than our expectations, the situation developed into one that deviated from our accident-response assumptions,'' TEPCO said in an interim report on an in-house investigation into the world's worst nuclear accident in 25 years.

    ''As a result, we were not able to take measures to counter the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi plant and could not prevent reactor cores from sustaining damage,'' it said.

    According to the 130-page report, attached with massive reference data, the facilities important to the plant's safety measures did not sustain damage as a direct result of the magnitude 9.0 earthquake, but the flooding from the 13-meter-high tsunami led to the ''simultaneous loss of multiple safety functions.''

    The prolonged loss of power sources and functions to cool the reactors resulted in the meltdown of nuclear fuel in the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors, leading to a massive release of radioactive substances into the environment.

    In compiling the report, TEPCO sought advice from a panel of experts, which also announced its views in a separate paper also Friday, saying TEPCO's ''insufficient'' safety measures were a factor in the accident.

    The panel's paper also noted that TEPCO may have been stuck on the ''myth'' that atomic power is safe.

    However, Executive Vice President Masao Yamazaki said in a news conference that TEPCO had taken ''the best possible measures at the time'' for safety.

    The TEPCO report said the utility had taken enough measures to withstand tsunami waves as high as 6.1 meters, while the latest tsunami that set off the nuclear crisis at the plant in northeastern Japan was ''far larger than the company's expectations.''

    TEPCO projected in an in-house study in 2008 that a tsunami as high as 10.2 meters could hit the plant, but the figure was ''just something based on an assumption without specific evidence,'' the report also said, justifying the company's decision not to take immediate action.

    TEPCO repeatedly said in its report that the state was also involved in working out steps to deal with accidents, in remarks that can be taken as suggesting the company was not the only one to blame for failing to project a loss of power sources by tsunami.

    The report also included measures to prevent a recurrence, such as setting barriers to block water from entering the buildings and installing functions that would not allow reactor cores to be damaged.

    TEPCO will continue to look into such issues as how senior company officials made decisions and responded to the crisis, as well as on the release of radioactive substances. It plans to compile a final investigative report by around June.

    Another panel set up at the government's initiative is also looking into the causes of the accident and is set to compile an interim report in late December.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:57:44 PM

  • Excessive cesium levels detected in rice from more farms in Fukushima

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Dec. 2, Kyodo

    Excessive levels of radioactive cesium have been detected in rice harvested at more farms in Fukushima city, the Fukushima prefectural government said Friday.

    In response, the central government plans to impose an additional ban on shipments of rice from newly affected areas as early as next Monday, after having taken such measure twice following the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in the prefecture, severely damaged by the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

    In the latest finding, levels surpassing the provisional upper limit of 500 becquerels per kilogram set by the central government were detected in rice from paddies run by five farming households, with the highest level at 760 becquerels, the prefectural government said. None of the rice has been shipped to markets, it said.

    Excessive cesium levels have now been found in rice from farms operated by 18 households in Fukushima Prefecture.

    Last month, the central government instructed Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato to ban shipments of rice harvested this year in parts of Fukushima and Date cities where excessive levels were earlier detected.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:58:52 PM

  • TEPCO report depicts desperate workers left in tsunami-hit plant

    TOKYO, Dec. 2, Kyodo

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Friday its investigation into the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant shed light on how desperate workers at the site felt shortly after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami resulted in the loss of power sources.

    ''I felt I could do nothing. Other operators appeared anxious. They argued, 'When we cannot control (the reactors) and are at wit's end, is there any meaning for us to be here?''' a person in charge of the reactors' central control room recalled about the situation, according to a separate volume attached to an interim investigation report on the accident. ''So, I bowed my head and asked them to stay.''

    Difficulties to release pressure in containers housing the reactors to avoid damage to the containers in the early days of the crisis were also described. A worker was quoted as saying, ''I did not allow young people to go (to open the valves for venting) because they would have to go into an area with high radiation dose.''

    A worker who engaged in the task of venting was quoted as saying, ''I heard some big weird dull, popping sounds...and when I tried to start working...my black rubber boots melted (because of the heat).''

    Large aftershocks also appear to have hampered restoration efforts, with some saying, ''There were quite a lot of times when we had to run to higher ground like crazy with a full face mask on.''

    In the process to compile the in-house investigation report, the utility known as TEPCO said it has conducted hearings on workers who have dealt with the world's worst nuclear accident since the 1986 Chernobyl disaster.

    Hit by a magnitude 9.0 earthquake and ensuing tsunami, the Fukushima nuclear plant located on the Pacific coast in northeastern Japan lost nearly all of its power sources and consequently the ability to cool the reactors and spent fuel pools.

    The government has said that the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors at the plant suffered meltdowns.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 6:59:45 PM

  • A worker who engaged in the task of venting was quoted as saying, ''I heard some big weird dull, popping sounds...and when I tried to start working...my black rubber boots melted (because of the heat).''

    and this worker has no radiation symptoms ???
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:02:14 PM

  • Hiroshima, Nagasaki express concern about Manhattan Project park plan

    HIROSHIMA, Dec. 2, Kyodo

    The cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki sent letters to the U.S. government on Friday requesting that consideration be given to providing information about the damage caused by atomic bombings as it proceeds with plans to establish national historical parks commemorating the U.S. wartime project to develop an atomic bomb.

    In a letter sent to U.S. Ambassador to Japan John Roos, Hiroshima Mayor Kazumi Matsui wrote that ''the people of Hiroshima were profoundly alarmed'' by the U.S. plan to designate three sites involved in the Manhattan Project as a national historical park.

    Planning a park to celebrate the weapons project runs counter to ''the wishes of the millions of people around the world calling for the abolition of nuclear weapons,'' he added. ''Such a park would communicate an erroneous and dangerous message to future generations.''

    In a separate letter to the ambassador, Nagasaki Mayor Tomihisa Taue urged Washington to take responsible steps regarding nuclear weapons after U.S. President Barack Obama vowed in 2009 to seek a world without them.

    The U.S. National Park Service is considering establishment of a national historical park at the three sites, including Los Alamos in New Mexico, where much of the scientific activity associated with the project to develop an atomic bomb during World War II was conducted.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:03:38 PM

  • the americans make a museum about every shit. in duluth i once visited a museum that was exclusively dedicated to an ice hockey match (victory,of course) against russia. it had three storeys !
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:06:06 PM

  • Have the article done on TEPCO's analysis, and all the related nonsense from this week www.simplyinfo.org
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:07:25 PM

  • @Edano they really have a museum over that olympic hockey match?
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:07:55 PM

  • lots of news articles today.
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:08:02 PM

  • @lillymunster ah, you even remember it ? :) yes they have ! somewhere near duluth. that match must have been some 25 years ago.
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:09:12 PM

  • The US parks thing does not surprise me. Most history in school completely avoids the actual outcomes and victims of atomic weapons or the real outcome of the bomb testing.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:09:47 PM

  • @Edano I remember it because it is such a stupid thing for people to still talk about. It was a joke in an animated TV series a few years ago.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:10:33 PM

  • A good number of the TEPCO workers there in March have really high exposures and high internal exposures. Likely the people giving interviews.
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:12:44 PM

  • @lillymunster :) okay, if it was olympic ... wow.... big thing :)
    by Edano 12/2/2011 7:12:44 PM

  • @Edano still really, it was a game decades ago. move on hockey players. :-)
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:13:53 PM

  • Here is the radiation exposure levels of the workers www.tepco.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/2/2011 7:14:04 PM

  • Thought I'd do a little research on the Norwegian Institute for Air Research (NIAR) to find their October report, stating the reactors had some structural damage and were leaking radiation after the earthquake, but before the tsunami hit the plant....as reported in the today's article by Bloomberg Business Week. I came across this "Zardos" thingy from May 12th: NIAR still Running Fukushima Radiation Monitoring Under 'Zardos'. www.redicecreations.com Zardos= movie of a radiation afflicted society in the future.....
    by MaryW 12/2/2011 7:26:28 PM

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