
@MaryW it is a different twist on the same short sighted mentality we see elsewhere. They are so absorbed with politics and business they forget the engine for both is a healthy and prosperous population. People who are doing well buy things, pay taxes and make new contributions to society.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:06:06 PM


Beagles Exposed To MOX fuel where it stayed internally after inhalation
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:13:31 PM

@MaryW we have the exact same thing going on in the US, it just has the overlay of some different behavior, culture.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:14:22 PM

@MaryW I try to separate out the people from the government, It can be very hard for people to change their govt when it goes wrong. Even harder if many others are asleep about the problems. There is a little bit of hope in the Osaka elections. The people who won stepped outside the normal political parties and said they wanted to do what the people wanted, end nukes, have govt that isn't corrupt etc.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:16:50 PM

In these studies, the incidence of lung tumors in Fischer-344
rats has been significant (Ref. 2)
While significant information exists on the biological effects following inhalation of
239pu02 or UO2
by rats, dogs and monkeys, (Ref. 3, 4, 5, 6) no information exists on the
dose-response relationships following inhalation of mixed U-Pu oxides. Specifically, the
scientific questions forming the basis for this study are: does the inhalation of aerosols
consisting of mixed (U-Pu) oxides pose a unique carcinogenic hazard to lung compared to chemically
pure forms of PuO2
and are the hazard assessments for human inhalation of 239pu02 adequate
to be extended to the case of mixed U-Pu oxide inhalation in humans
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:27:12 PM

@MaryW true. There are people in Japan who are trying to change things. Part of the problem is how entrenched big business and political parties are in Japan. The govt many times acts in totally shameless ways to screw over people they should be protecting. This isn't lost on people in Japan, I think many are just unsure how to change what is a huge beast
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:29:05 PM


Rats exposed to MOX and pure Plutonium
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:31:28 PM

Nearly 100% survival is apparent for all groups of rats, including control groups, with only
two deaths (one accidental, one with a brain lesion) in the experimental groups and a single death
(kidney and adrenal lesion) in the control group. The group which was over-exposed (~ 200
initial lung burden) is being maintained, but considered separate from these studies. In this
over-exposed group of 44 rats, 19 have died at times ranging from 86 to 201 days after inhalation. Virtually all of these deaths are the result of radiation pneumonitis and pulmonary fibrosis and resultant pulmonary failure. This syndrome is typical for high initial lung burdens in
rodents, Beagle dogs and monkeys.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:33:24 PM

Digging all the way through the study and it doesn't give a clear exposure vs. outcome. Bah!
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:37:09 PM

@lillymunster no they wont give that info
by elainekirk 12/2/2011 9:37:53 PM

@elainekirk oh this is just driving me crazy. You know someone has the data on internal exposure like the external exposure tables. Of course finding that is impossible. I found some references to internal exposure via cancer treatment but that isn't inhaled so likely acts differently.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 9:43:14 PM

Radiation triage in adults
www.uptodate.comRadiation induced lung injury
www.uptodate.comStill nothing really specific about inhalation vs. outcomes
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:01:24 PM

This might help? Oak Ridge made a radiation exposure calculation software
www.wise-uranium.orgALL of oak ridge's various dose etc software programs here
ordose.ornl.govby lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:04:38 PM

Inhalation of radiation
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.govby lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:13:35 PM

The four groups ranged from those who were
not exposed at all to
those receiving a maximum dose of 30 millisieverts or more. A comparison of the adjusted rate-ratios for cancers
among these groups showed that the workers who received the highest doses died at a substantially higher rate from leukemias and lymphomas than did those who were not exposed. The same relationship was true for workers who died from cancers of the mouth,
throat, esophagus, and stomach. Substantiating these observations
was the fact that workers in the zero-dose range had the lowest rates
of death and those within the two intermediate dose ranges had progressively higher rates of death with increasing dose. Again, this was
true both for leukemias and lymphomas and for cancers of the
mouth, throat, esophagus, and stomach. The researchers also examined lung, bladder, kidney, and prostate cancer incidence, but found
no elevations in mortality rates. Although the link to increased
leukemias and lymphomas had been reported in two earlier studies,
the relationship to mouth, throat, and esophagus cancers had not
previously been reported for workers exposed to internally deposited
radionuclides in this low-dose range.
Caveats added due to the smaller study group.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.govby lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:19:44 PM

why is this not being taken up by the msm as if I need to ask :(
by elainekirk 12/2/2011 10:20:50 PM

If anyone with journal access can find this study even if it is in Russian it would be useful [Retrospective diagnosis of radiation inhalation lesions of the bronchial mucosa in clean-up personnel after the nuclear accident at the Chernobyl nuclear reactor using the micronucleus test].
[Article in Russian]
Lisochkin BG, Kravtsov VIu, Rybachenko VV.
Source
I.P.Pavlov Research Institute of Pulmonology, Sankt-Petersburg Medical University, 197022, St-Petersburg.
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:21:22 PM

@elainekirk the exposure data for the workers was quietly tucked into the daily reports and put out after everyone was obsessing over their made up meltdown analysis.
Lack of MSM is why I am digging on this. If we can present the worker data with some reliable research to frame it it could be picked up
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:22:04 PM

Feldheim wind farm, local govt gets revenue from the windfarm. Maybe this is an idea for municipalities wanting to make up for nuclear money?
p.twipple.jpby lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:33:52 PM

@lillymunster I hope it is picked up
by elainekirk 12/2/2011 10:34:35 PM

Based on our screening calculations, doses to many workers are likely to have exceeded the dose limit which was then about 15 rem per year. This chart [slide #1] shows the cumulative lung dose per worker as it relates to the number of months exposed (i.e. on the job), and also to different multiples of the then-prevailing Maximum Allowable Concentration (MAC) of uranium in the air. It shows that the more months a worker was exposed, the higher the cumulative lung dose, and the higher the level of uranium in the workplace air (i.e. the higher the number of multiples of MAC), the higher the dose.
The data and our calculations suggest that the highest exposed workers had a high probability of dying from cancer as a result of the exposure. The estimated mean lung dose in the highest exposure category (8,400 rem) would be equivalent to an effective dose (or "whole body" dose) of approximately 1,000 rem. Using the International Council for Radiation Protection (ICRP) cancer risk factor of 0.04%, this corresponds to about a 40% risk of dying from cancer. This is a 200 percent increase in fatal cancer risk compared to unexposed persons. 15 rem = 150 millisieverts
www.ieer.orgby lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:42:18 PM

I think these IEER studies may be the key we need
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 10:44:53 PM

good find
by elainekirk 12/2/2011 10:49:21 PM

@elainekirk shot off an email to IEER to see if they have any data on internal exposure vs. health outcome
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 11:07:14 PM

My how things have changed. Senator Obama pushed for a new radiation protection standard. Fast forward to this year the US govt acts like Fuku is a non issue for the US
www.ieer.orgby lillymunster 12/2/2011 11:12:45 PM

@lillymunster it is all in the pockets , forget the 'dressing to the right or left' just make sure the pockets are lined
by elainekirk 12/2/2011 11:15:10 PM

brb off to forage for food
by lillymunster 12/2/2011 11:32:18 PM

Reactors nearing cold shutdownJapan may announce this month that reactors at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant have reached a state of cold shutdown.
The government and Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the plant say the phase could be achieved on December 16th at the earliest. Before that, nuclear experts must first assess mid-term safety measures proposed by the utility.
The government will then divide evacuation areas around the plant into 3 zones based on radiation levels, and come up with support measures for each district.
For an area with high radiation levels where residents are unlikely to return soon, the government will consider buying land from owners.
In a zone where evacuation orders are expected to continue for a set period of time, the government will implement decontamination efforts and repair roads.
For an area with relatively-low radiation levels, focus will be on helping factories resume operation and setting up medical facilities. Decontamination and infrastructure projects will also be carried out.
Saturday, December 03, 2011 07:24 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 12/3/2011 12:27:02 AM

@Edano good evening
by elainekirk 12/3/2011 12:29:49 AM

@elainekirk good evening
by Edano 12/3/2011 12:30:47 AM

over 80° is not cold for me.
by Edano 12/3/2011 12:31:31 AM

If any area is below their idea of bad radiation the govt will do everything to force them to go back
by lillymunster 12/3/2011 12:33:51 AM

@Edano it is farcical , has been throughout
by elainekirk 12/3/2011 12:37:53 AM

File this under irony
Japan submitted a resolution adopted by the UN's nuclear disarmament
December 03, 28 minutes 9:00
Japan has submitted a draft resolution to UN General Assembly expressed concern about North Korea's nuclear disarmament and the overall commitment to nuclear weapons, the resolution was adopted by majority vote.
In the General Assembly, two days were made of the resolution submitted by the national vote over the issue of disarmament. Of these, the draft resolution submitted by Japan, for the abolition of nuclear weapons overall, with commitment to the international community to act together, and expressed concern over the construction of light water reactors and uranium enrichment program by North Korea . In the vote, as well as North Korea is opposed by China, Iran, and Israel is now in 11 countries that abstained, 169 countries agreed that a resolution was adopted by majority vote. The resolution was adopted, the North Korean ambassador to the UN Shinsonho "peaceful use of nuclear country's legitimate rights," and repeated the claim that nuclear development for peaceful purposes only that. The Japanese government, the resolution has been clearly shown that those seeking to abandon the idea of international community in the North Korean nuclear program.
www3.nhk.or.jpby lillymunster 12/3/2011 12:44:41 AM