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  • Wood origin seems to have been the source of mushroom contamination. Article doesn't state but I am assuming this relates to greenhouse grown ones, not wild or open air grown.

    Shiitake safety checks, shipping restraint release

    -PR-


     A problem has been detected radioactive cesium from exceeding the national provisional standard timber grown mushroom farmers in the district, Fukushima Prefecture purchased深持Towada Prefecture on April 13, to refrain from shipping this mushroom farmers were asked was released. Were examined several times in the wood produced by the mushroom was placed in a plastic timber in question and the same house, a radioactive substance is not detected, because the safety was confirmed. ▼ See related article on nuclear accident in Fukushima  Prefecture, a total of 13 samples were tested three times a day 7,9,12. Specimen and shiitake mushroom, "such as radioactive material has been accumulated in the house, assuming that all '(Department of Forestry Policy Noro County public dues long), collected from a wide range of locations such as the edge of the house next to the wood and the problem. Both radioactive cesium was detected.  On the other hand, Towada 13th, and purchased a timber farm in Fukushima Prefecture were examined by the mushroom farmers produced radioactive materials were detected and announced.  To prevent damage to reputation, the Ministry of Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperative Oirase Towada City (Headquarters Towada) work together. Subjected 08 to 12, out of the city's mushroom farmers are buying raw materials from outside the province, were taken with 6 shiitake dispersed areas. Results of testing the radioactive material, radioactive cesium was not detected, confirming safety. www.toonippo.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 2:41:01 PM

  • Toshiba working on a portable gamma camera. Will sell to cities first, not sure about selling to the public or a price. Doing trials on it at Fukushima monoist.atmarkit.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 2:47:19 PM

  • Volvo plug-in diesel hybrid races into Europe: Volvo's premium "sport wagon" will get over 120 miles per gallon ... cnet.co
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 2:49:56 PM

  • Oh this is good. Technical detailing of the meltdown at unit 1 and how the quake and LOCA did it, not the tsunami. This is a good read. We need to make sure Peter sees it. www.japantimes.co.jp
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:11:57 PM

  • Nice. It also mentions they think TEPCO was manipulating simulations to get a desired outcome:

    Simulation data calculated by a computer can be manipulated easily depending on the types of input. Tanaka suspects that Tepco cooked up simulation results to suit its own purposes in an attempt to deceive the public.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:13:42 PM

  • @lillymunster GM's Opel (Vauxhall) Ampera sedan (which is already available) will deliver almost twice the mileage. But 120 miles per gallon is quite outstanding for a sport wagon, nonetheless.
    by Pedro Jesus 12/13/2011 3:18:42 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus we get none of them here... Drives me crazy.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:19:27 PM

  • @lillymunster Regarding the computer simulations, it is possible to cook the results even without cooking the data. Computer simulation software is provided with different case scenarios. You can have two completely sets of results, given the same input, by choosing between a more conservative or a more extreme simulation set. That stands for any kind of simulation whether it's radioactive exposure, global warming, cancer rates, etc...
    by Pedro Jesus 12/13/2011 3:21:24 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus I find it important that this is being talked about with such candor in mainstream media in Japan. They explained the whole thing almost like it was a discussion here.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:23:27 PM

  • @lillymunster The Portuguese car market will have plenty of offer in the electric and hybrid range from next year on. We're talking about well over a dozen different makes and models to choose from. =) Some of them are not even that expensive. A Renault Kangoo Z.E. will sell for around 20,000€. A Renault Fluence Z.E. will sell from 21,600€. The batteries are provided on a renting plan that costs 82€ every 3 years or 10,000Km.
    by Pedro Jesus 12/13/2011 3:28:37 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus we can get a really limited range of electric or hybrid. I tihnk Renault has completely pulled out of the US market. Opel is hard to find here and Saab won't import the high mileage models same as VW won't. We can get Nissan leaf but only the sedan, not the wagon. Same with Prius. I am not sure what the import issue in the US is. If the manufacturers don't think they will sell or if there is an import problem with govt restrictions
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:34:24 PM

  • @lillymunster Considering that the lithium used in the batteries comes from the USA and that GM's electric technology is so well advanced I don't really understand why... corporate decisions, I would guess.
    by Pedro Jesus 12/13/2011 3:37:22 PM

  • Random thought on all the govt "slips" lately where small admissions are being made. We saw lots of these before TEPCO etc came clean before the IAEA report. I think the quake vs. tsunami as the cause issue is really big. If the govt. panel decides the quake caused the damage most reactors won't restart. TEPCO is toast (more than they are now) and GE will get dragged into this for faulty design. I also have to wonder if this is part on the recent panic in the US nuke industry. If they know the admission the reactors failed before the tsunami is coming they are trying to get Jaczko out before that happens to prevent a smackdown on the US industry?
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:37:36 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus There are some really weird import restrictions plus the US automakers seem to still be obsessed with big gas hog vehicles. There are programs for some German vehicles where you can buy one in Germany and import it back to the US yourself. Benz or VW does all the work and your trip to Germany is included. Then you can import models not normally in the US.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 3:39:46 PM

  • lilly, I saw Japan Times article you posted. Wow, the plot is thickening. There are 23 GE reactors with Mark 1 containments worldwide according to this IAEA article on containment aging: www-pub.iaea.org . That is what is at stake here.
    by Peter 12/13/2011 4:10:29 PM

  • @Peter 23 potential future nuclear disasters.
    by Pedro Jesus 12/13/2011 4:14:19 PM

  • @Peter I think this is as much the sudden angst of the US nuke operators as the fact that NRC is making their final fukushima safety changes for the US this week. I worry the US NRC changes may not fully reflect the newly admitted information in Japan making them not conservative enough.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:17:58 PM

  • Worldwide there are even more, the IAEA lists GE collaborations in Japan separately (15) and there is another one somewhere that does not have a steel liner. Here in the US, it is 23 alone. Here is a list: www.nirs.org
    by Peter 12/13/2011 4:33:16 PM

  • FYI: enenews bloggers are experiencing an increase in trolls lately. Perhaps due to the recent increase in 'new-truth' news leakings? who knows...:)
    by MaryW 12/13/2011 4:39:17 PM

  • @lillymunster , I saw the NRC is holding plenty lessons-learned meetings right now. Other than being more strict on hardened vents, I do not see major changes. And even such small proposals like buying more batteries seem too much to ask. So Jazsco gotta go. If the NRC had courage, they would ask the operators to shut down the 23 reactors in question, until the causes for the accidents are fully understood.
    by Peter 12/13/2011 4:39:57 PM

  • @MaryW what are the trolls doing?
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:40:05 PM

  • @lillymunster same as early on...discrediting reports, posting false alerts...same'o'same'o'
    by MaryW 12/13/2011 4:41:44 PM

  • @Peter This is what is just over the top. So far I think the NRC changes are extremely minor, requiring the hardened venting, extra batteries and more diesel fuel in safer locations. That is all I remember seeing talked about. Yet the nuke industry is claiming some of these changes will be impossible to do and will cause them great hardship? Are they spoiled brats or is there a bigger consequence they are not mentioning that these minor changes will cause?
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:42:13 PM

  • @MaryW the paid lobbyist type posters have an easy to spot set of arguments and they don't deviate from them much. Or they make weird ad hominem attacks like you don't know anything, totally wrong and don't know where to start to prove it. :-)
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:44:15 PM

  • @lillymunster Exactly
    by MaryW 12/13/2011 4:45:00 PM

  • @Peter my understanding is the meetings for the NRC are leading up to their final decision on what changes will be done.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:45:06 PM

  • Hey I picked up an interesting tidbit at yesterday's North Anna Hearing. One of the petitioners reasoned that since the upright storage casks hobbled along the parking lot during the quake, the fuel rods inside might have been damaged. We discovered some chipped china in our household sideboard which was not moved. Perhaps, there is something to it. ;)
    by Peter 12/13/2011 4:45:06 PM

  • @Peter there was a change in the reactor physics (if that is the right term) during the quake. The NRC even mentioned concern for fuel rod safety and suggested rods in the reactor should be checked before restart. It had something to do with the frequency that things vibrate at and that the sensors in the reactor saw something change and tripped an alarm.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:47:18 PM

  • I wonder if cruising through the NRC newest documents on Fukushima related US safety changes might give some hints what has the US operators running scared...
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 4:48:35 PM

  • A MUST SEE: Google's Updated Street View of Fukushima. Use the scroll feature to look around-amazing!! 'Looks like' a nuclear explosion took place. gizmodo.com
    by MaryW 12/13/2011 4:59:07 PM

  • @lillymunster , one unit did not restart. One reason mentioned was a rod control drive insufficiently powered. A second had to do with turbine control. Quake-related turbine damage has been reported on various occasions after lower-magnitude quakes in Japan. Large mechanical moving parts seem to be most vulnerable to ground motion, a bit like the hard drive in the laptop.
    Also an issue raised at The North Anna meeting yesterday was whether the lake and the ponds suffice as ultimate heat sink. I still do not understand why the plant does not need the lake in the comment to my North Anna essay. I looked at google maps and the lake clearly is adjacent, and seems connected, to these ponds. brainmindinstrev.blogspot.com
    by Peter 12/13/2011 5:00:08 PM

  • @lillymunster , this can be simply because the BWR-3(4) Mark I design provenly did not survive a real-life emergency shutdown three times in a row. Blaming this on total station blackout is a bit lame, because there should have been enough battery power to prevent the immediate worst. Plus, tepco had some power and compressed air restored the next day. That should have saved units 2 and 3.
    by Peter 12/13/2011 5:07:05 PM

  • @All Okay, this is just too cool. An interactive nuclear reactor failure image: web.physik.rwth-aachen.de
    by M.I.A. 12/13/2011 5:37:50 PM

  • @Peter The information gap seems to be that the NRC is only asking for these rather petty safety changes and so far has not publicly stated any exploration of the big accident implications. They completely dismissed the petition brought by Beyond Nuclear etc to cease the BWR mark 1 operation over all the known safety risks.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 5:42:07 PM

  • 3 deaths in lüttich (liege) / belgium. shooting and grenades in a shopping area. police arrested a psycho.
    by Edano 12/13/2011 5:50:48 PM

  • Isn't the change to Unit 4 a planned removal of a section to facilitate a larger structural-integrity renovation? Some folks have been going on that the missing section is a collapse and that it entails an likely further collapse, as for example www.youtube.com
    by Ian 12/13/2011 5:51:35 PM

  • @M.I.A. very cool. i like stuff like that.
    by Edano 12/13/2011 5:52:52 PM

  • @Ian it is planned removal. I did a write up on it that goes live on the site later tonight US time. TEPCO announced they were doing it in September. The close ups of the building show it is clean cut and the rubble is all removed.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 5:53:07 PM

  • @Edano Me, too :-)
    by M.I.A. 12/13/2011 5:53:39 PM

  • love the sound effects on that reactor melt down. :-)

    @all looking at the US list of BWR units, much of them are the same vintage as units 2-4
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 5:56:44 PM

  • Is there a Fukushima NRC report newer than July?
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 5:57:48 PM

  • OMG! Please tell me I'm wrong...but what does this sound like ... symptoms are causing: animals' hair to fall out, bleeding ulcers on skin, lesions on lungs, livers, hearts, brains. (quote) "I'm scared seals might pass it on one way or another and the whole (Pacific) ocean could be affected". This is from the 'Description' and the 'Situation Updates' on the Alert Map, Biological Hazard, Severe, Multi-countries (Alaska, Russia, western Canada). First reported on October 13.2011. hisz.rsoe.hu
    by MaryW 12/13/2011 6:05:08 PM

  • @lillymunster, thanks! I posted this comment to that video (on a channel that specializes in propagating BS):

    Reality check: The change to Unit 4 is NOT a collapse indicating any further catastrophic collapse. The missing portion is part of an structural modification to facilitate a larger structural-integrity renovation that TEPCO announced they'd be doing.
    by Ian 12/13/2011 6:06:36 PM

  • Reading the July report NRC. It talks about starting the process to make new rules. So the time between July and now has been to further refine exactly what needs to be done and how it will be done so there is another shoe waiting to drop on the US nuke industry. So these meetings this week may be far more important than I realized. I assumed they were procedural. They may be discussion of specific changes to be made.

    So if the people in the know in Japan know that the quake caused the melt downs and the design is critically flawed or has a number of serious failure points as we all already know. Does the NRC have this information? IF they do what are they going to do with it? I would assume the NRC either has this information through sharing or through the DoE's investigation and analysis.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 6:06:51 PM

  • @Ian this TEPCO handout talks about the debris removal there are other TEPCO statements that talk about it. It makes sense to remove that section as long as they could do it without risking failing something else. It was all hanging there in the way of the spent fuel pool. Having it come down in a planned way would be better than having it finally fall and drop onto the refueling floor. That jolt could break more things below it.
    by lillymunster 12/13/2011 6:10:06 PM

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