Japan Earthquake

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@you "...devastated" of course. Maybe to difficult for guys like me, :(
by Peter 12/19/2011 2:56:45 PM

@lillymunster , it seems a conspiracy. As if they get calls from the gov. that the use of harsher words would only help stir a panic or something of that sort.
by Peter 12/19/2011 2:58:39 PM

@Peter, right, "destroyed" would be the most obvious state-descriptive choice. Good point about the water-filter study, it's not just another fallout-measure study, but a study with real-life and life-saving application that should be known to the Japanese public.
by Ian 12/19/2011 3:08:17 PM

@Peter There has been an effort to downplay all of this since day one in the US. Remember all the TV news telling everyone how it is just like a plane ride and "no harm to human health" constantly. The declaration that food and fish are safe even before they had any idea if it would be.
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 3:08:22 PM

@lillymunster, glad it helps! It was posted to physicsforums by clancy688.
by Ian 12/19/2011 3:11:26 PM

@Ian We don't yet have concrete proof but a batch of MOX in the SFP could explain a few things...
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 3:35:17 PM

Reading through articles from the weekend, putting together a big post of articles. Ran across this one. Nobody believes cold shutdown. Noda's own political party calls it fiction ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 3:43:02 PM

12/16/11 Japan’s “Scientific Whaling”, Much More than Whales

Several factors related to the aggressive whaling policy of Japan in Antarctica should send alert signals to governments and civil society organizations about the real intentions of the Asian government in one of the most strategic regions with potential territorial and natural resources conflicts. www.ccc-chile.org
by Majj 12/19/2011 3:58:18 PM

Does anyone know if fish bone gets used in any products? The massive amount of stronium dumped into the sea made me wonder if the stronium could show up in other products via bones made into other things?
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 4:01:02 PM

@lillymunster From pet food to fertilizer to beauty products and probably "Sea Calcium" pills ...
by Majj 12/19/2011 4:06:36 PM

@Majj , right, power feed for cattle contains fish bone meal.
by Peter 12/19/2011 4:42:51 PM

@Peter Is it still in garden fertilizers? Do you remember if plants can take up stronium?
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 4:43:59 PM

Prospects for Nuclear Power
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:02:13 PM

The prospects for a revival of nuclear power were dim even before the partial reactor meltdowns at the Fukushima nuclear plant. Nuclear power has long been controversial because of concerns about nuclear accidents, proliferation risk, and the storage of spent fuel. These concerns are real and important. In addition, however, a key challenge for nuclear power has been the high cost of construction for nuclear plants. Construction costs are high enough that it becomes difficult to make an economic argument for nuclear, even before incorporating these external costs. www.nber.org
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:02:32 PM

@M.I.A. says i need a subscription?
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 5:03:43 PM

Yes, $5. I didn't buy it, but thought it was interesting enough to post. Also: Ohio lawmakers plan bill to keep uranium plant Ohio's two U.S. senators plan on introducing a bill to authorize $150 million in spending to help a uranium enrichment project in southern Ohio stay afloat, after money for the project was missing from a last-minute spending bill passed on Saturday. www.canadianbusiness.com
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:06:28 PM

Yet another bailout??!! These 'representatives' just don't get it, do they? What happened to the free market they tout so much?
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:07:35 PM

Feelings about U.S. are complex / Disaster relief operations appreciated, but major ally not fully trusted. Dec 19.2011.
www.yomiuri.co.jp
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:09:39 PM

@MaryW Well, as far as trust, they'll have to get in line...
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:10:40 PM

@M.I.A. And now, no country trusts Japan. They lost their credibility with all their lies.
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:11:48 PM

Yep. Seems like all the world's gov'ts ar in FAIL mode
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:12:54 PM

It would be foolish to prop up a uranium plant with the market for it tanking.
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 5:15:05 PM

@lillymunster Re: fish bones. Do you check all the ingredients when you grocery shop? Any (processed) meat product, chicken patties...hot dogs...sausages...canned meats, contained grounded bones when the ingredients list, for example, chicken parts, etc. So important to know what you're eating at all times.
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:15:25 PM

Nuclear waste site hunt could point to granite The likely death of a planned nuclear waste site at Nevada's Yucca Mountain has left federal agencies looking for a possible replacement. A national lab working for the U.S. Department of Energy is now eying granite deposits stretching from Georgia to Maine as potential sites, along with big sections of Minnesota and Wisconsin where that rock is prevalent. www.google.com
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:18:09 PM

@M.I.A. Over the years since I've started paying attention to the nuclear industry prospect (back in the eighties) the main advantage was environmental benefits with the obvious cut in CO2 emissions. At least in Portugal, while the subject was under discussion for a good decade, there was the low environmental impact on one hand and the Chernobyl disaster on the other. It was never portrayed as economically profitable. I don't think there's much left to support the current nuclear industry. Either they are able to cut the accident risks with better technology or I don't really see a strong case to support it any longer, after Fukushima. It's not only a huge economic burden but also a potential environmental hazard.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 5:21:02 PM

Also: Fresh smell of scented laundry found to contain toxic chemicals

Read more: www.digitaljournal.com
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:21:13 PM

Toxic chemicals found in branded clothing, new research shows

Read more: digitaljournal.com
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:22:43 PM

@Pedro Jesus I used to support nukes. My ex-husband is a senior instructor in a NPP and my son is a radiation technician. Sadly, the more anecdotal stories I heard, and the more researching I did, the more frightening it became...
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 5:23:48 PM

More U.S. beef found to contain muscle-growth drug
2011/08/11 10:56:23 And we could go on and on... focustaiwan.tw
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:26:08 PM

@M.I.A. The problem is nobody wants this huge nuclear waste dump in their state and will fight it with everything they have.
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 5:26:17 PM

@M.I.A. That makes two of us although I never new any one directly involved with the nuclear industry and/or research. My stance at the moment is quite neutral in a general sense. It will take a major scientific breakthrough in safety to convince me now that the nuclear energy has any future.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 5:27:58 PM

@MaryW I try to avoid mystery foods and chemical laden house products as much as possible. Laundry scents really gross me out. I can tell what neighbors are doing laundry in the summer based on the smell. The people on either side of us both use really stinky dryer sheets and soap. You can smell it in our house if the windows are open and we have lots of space between houses.
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 5:28:19 PM

I still have some faith in nuclear fusion, however it won't become an alternative before maybe a good century. I have some faith in the newer designs for nuclear fission reactors that produce energy from spent nuclear fuel but even that one is not proven to be effective. It's not looking any good and renewable is not a short term alternative for developing economies. The near future looks rather gloomy in the energy department. Needless to say the economic department is not faring well either.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 5:31:57 PM

Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout. Impact Seen As Roughly Comparable to Radiation-Related Deaths After Chernobyl; Infants Are Hardest Hit, With Continuing Research Showing Even Higher Possible Death Count.
WASHINGTON, Dec. 19, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- An estimated 14,000 excess deaths in the United States are linked to the radioactive fallout from the disaster at the Fukushima nuclear reactors in Japan, according to a major new article in the December 2011 edition of the International Journal of Health Services. This is the first peer-reviewed study published in a medical journal documenting the health hazards of Fukushima.
www.prnewswire.com
by MaryW 12/19/2011 5:56:11 PM

@all Hello!
by smoss 12/19/2011 5:58:33 PM

@MaryW Wow. That health study is big. I've been an activist against genetically modified food, too. And this article/blog on the Canadian gov't hiding problems in gmo salmon does not bode well for radiation testing. www.superheroes4salmon.org
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 6:00:25 PM

@smoss Hello,smoss! Like your tweets :)
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 6:01:06 PM

@MIA Thanks!
by smoss 12/19/2011 6:02:36 PM

@M.I.A. Tomorrow after 11am EST, IJSH will be publishing their article on US deaths due to Fukushima. I will post it as it becomes available
by MaryW 12/19/2011 6:02:53 PM

@MaryW TY
by M.I.A. 12/19/2011 6:03:10 PM

@M.I.A. This is BIB BREAKING NEWS for ALL.
by MaryW 12/19/2011 6:03:56 PM

BIG not bib :)
by MaryW 12/19/2011 6:04:14 PM

@smoss do you remember what unit at Kashiwazaki was intended for the MOX install?
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 6:04:34 PM

@all Following the thread picked up by @Ian and @lillymunster last night...CNIC seems to verify that MOX was still at Kashiwazaki-Kariwa 3 as of 2009 Japan's pluthermal program (using MOX fuel) began in 2009, ten years later than planned. Plutonium shipped and loaded into reactors is reflected in the figures in these tables. The 1,458 tons of plutonium held as "Unirradiated new fuel at reactor sites etc." includes 210 kg at Fukushima I-3 (TEPCO), 205 kg at Kashiwazaki-Kariwa-3 (TEPCO), 213 kg at Hamaoka-4 (Chubu) and 831 kg at Ikata-3 (Shikoku). (The figures don't add up due to rounding.) The plutonium held at Tokyo Electric Power Company's (TEPCO) reactors was shipped there in MOX fuel over ten years ago. cnic.jp
by smoss 12/19/2011 6:05:22 PM

@lillymunster With reguard to this MOX, my gut tells me that we may actually already be in possession of the info that we're looking for. From day 1, this group has done such an amazing job gathering documentation! Safe to say that it won't be labeled "Here's the missing MOX FAs", but may exist as a side note somewhere in the SimplyInfo library/references. KK - 3 was preparing for MOX install...
by smoss 12/19/2011 6:10:42 PM