Japan Earthquake

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We must bare in mind that even 25 years upon the Chernobyl disasters, official directly related death estimates still range from under 1,000 to over 1,000,000.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 9:37:26 PM

Waiting for the International Journal of Health Services to present their article. It should be coming Tuesday, but some sites are saying it will be online later today...?
by MaryW 12/19/2011 9:38:56 PM

the cdc estimated 15,000 deaths in usa due to atomic bomb testings in 2002: www.spiegel.de we can be sure that the cdc will only publish conservative numbers.
by Edano 12/19/2011 9:39:58 PM

i mean, the study is from 2002, not the deaths.
by Edano 12/19/2011 9:40:34 PM

@MaryW go look at the journal info I posted. they don't even peer review and are not associated with any university or professional group
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 9:41:10 PM

'Paving the Way for a New Fukushima'
Is Berlin Still in the Nuclear Power Business? The German government may be getting out of the nuclear power business at home, but it is still active internationally. Berlin is currently reviewing applications for federal export guarantees for four nuclear projects abroad. Environmentalists are furious, saying the phaseout must also apply to the sale of atomic energy technology. www.spiegel.de
by Majj 12/19/2011 9:41:21 PM

@Peter Don't you believe now with new technology tests can detect more than what was available after Chernobyl. For instance, findings in an autopsy.
by MaryW 12/19/2011 9:42:30 PM

@lillymunster On SimplyInfo or where did you post?
by MaryW 12/19/2011 9:43:27 PM

@MaryW links with info on the journal in my posts below
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 9:44:03 PM

www.ute-koczy.de In September, the German government extended a Hermes guarantee for the nuclear power plant Angra 3 in Brazil by six months. This project too is controversial due to its location in an earthquake-prone area. "The nuclear phaseout must also apply to export guarantees,"
by Majj via Ute-koczy.de 12/19/2011 9:44:13 PM

@Majj the problem is that angra 3 was a joint project of siemens and areva. siemens quit the project after fukushima, but areva still insisis on the german credit guarantees. it is a little complicated to solve.
by Edano 12/19/2011 9:48:23 PM

Here is the Background History of the Introduction to Health Services Research in the U.S.National Library of Medicine. www.nlm.nih.gov
by MaryW 12/19/2011 9:48:54 PM

@lillymunster I spent about half an hour, earlier tonight, going through all the links I could find on that. They are redundant and all copy paste from one another. Hard to say which one is the original article.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 9:49:57 PM

in the end, merkel and sarkozy have to find an agreement on this project. and i think this is not their top priority theme at the moment.
by Edano 12/19/2011 9:50:21 PM

areva lately announced to sue siemens for broken contracts.
by Edano 12/19/2011 9:51:48 PM

@Edano Yes but to faze out the nuclear power in Germany many contracts will be broken and many fees will be paid. You can not in a way or in other do things to others that you don't want for you. This is not a new case. Just luck the indices of pollution of Factories in Germany and other factories around of the word from the same company . Just excuses. Nor personal felling against German people. For the people I have only respect and admiration . But government is same as every were . Puppet of the big company
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:08:29 PM

Impact Seen As Roughly Comparable to Radiation-Related Deaths After Chernobyl; Infants Are Hardest Hit, With Continuing Research Showing Even Higher Possible Death Count. An estimated 14,000 excess deaths in the United States are linked to the radioactive fallout from the disaster at the Fukushima nuclear reactors in Japan, according to a major new article in the December 2011 edition of the International Journal of Health Services. This is the first peer-reviewed study published in a medical journal documenting the health hazards of Fukushima.
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:10:35 PM

for some reason I don"t manage to post the link to the article bellow . Scribblelive asys it is span...
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:12:46 PM

www.prnewswire.com
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:13:01 PM

@Majj worth repeating: " But government is same as every were . Puppet of the big company"
by lillymunster 12/19/2011 10:13:11 PM

@Majj yes, you sure are right, especially towards our economy ministry. but the guarantees are only guarantees for credit failures, it is not invested money.
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:13:51 PM

I don't now what to think of the article below . I'm out of my deep www.prnewswire.com
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:15:31 PM

we must not forget, germany still has a right wing government...
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:16:34 PM

@Edano Ok Edano but If I'm a Hit man and you give me guaranty that my next job will be paid if I do It is OK ?
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:17:41 PM

@Edano Yest People of German is total against the government give the guaranty to Areva. The people are cool. Government is the problem
by Majj 12/19/2011 10:18:52 PM

before merkel we had a red green government which forbid such credit guarantees for nukes exports. it was chancellor merkel who allowed it again.
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:20:32 PM

@Edano It is all around western Europe, isn't it? Scandinavian governments are all right wing, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Italy... is there any left wing government left in western Europe? The new Belgium government is also right wing, if I'm not mistaken. Funny country, Belgium. They spent over one and a half years without a government and things still worked well all around. Here in Portugal, we haven't been without a Government ever and things seldom work at all.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 10:20:36 PM

@Pedro Jesus only austria, belgium and denmark are left.
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:21:20 PM

stop angra 3 movement ...
by Edano via Blog.campact.de 12/19/2011 10:26:42 PM

@Edano I was wrong about Belgium then. Denmark's left, however, is quite centre right so it hardly counts as left wing. Alike Portuguese socialist party. It's more centre right than anything else. The social democrat party, now in power in a right wing coalition is a bit further right, though.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 10:27:35 PM

Areva / Siemens to build the nuclear plant had therefore requested a guarantee in 2002. Until recently, the Hermes guidelines, the funding of new nuclear capacity but expressly excluded. After the parliamentary elections in 2009 was the turning point. The Franco-German nuclear company renewed its guarantee application and the new government of CDU / CSU and FDP simply changed the rules. translate.google.de
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:32:14 PM

2013 we have elections and then angra will be stopped. i am optimistic.
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:35:14 PM

@Majj @Edano If E.on buys a share of Portuguese EDP we can expect a whole new batch of renewable energy power plants flourishing in Portugal, Germany and Brasil. That is guaranteed. I've got my fingers crossed.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 10:37:16 PM

of course, in this case, the french government will assume the guarantees. :(
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:37:25 PM

To put it into context, EDP, one of the world leading renewable energy companies in the world, is being privatized and German E.on, which is bent on renewable energy research and development, is bidding for a fair share. The flourishing Brazilian energy market is one of their biggest goals. It's a win win situation.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 10:43:33 PM

@Pedro Jesus e.on is a criminal company. they own most of the german nukes. don't be so positive, they will simply buy your government. :)
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:47:35 PM

i do not trust any big company. the energy sector needs decentralization and local production.
by Edano 12/19/2011 10:49:12 PM

Take your kids skiing in Fukushima! I don't suggest the upstairs onsen in building 4 though. :-)

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by lillymunster 12/19/2011 11:02:48 PM

@Edano They can't afford that. We're not so small and EDP still has the biggest share in renewable energy. I believe E.on is converting their interests into the renewable market, according to their website, although it might be only a PR facelift. Anyway, EDP is the leading energy company in local micro-production projects and it's totally decentralized. To give you an example, the south region of Portugal where I live, the Algarve, consumes over 80% of renewable energy from different renewable sources including independent home micro-power plants. We have to trust someone. Our government has been granting subsidies to micro-production. Because we enjoy a lot of sun all around the year and because solar panel appliances are becoming more and more affordable and efficient, this type of local energy production has been flourishing in this region. There's still a long way to go but we're getting there. Portugal is a very good example to other more developed countries around the world. We're second in the world in wind power energy and there are a hand full of new research and development in that and other «green» areas going on as we speak. I expect to live long enough to see the day when the last coal plant will be decommissioned. We don't get many things right in this small corner of Europe, but the energy sector is surely one to marvel at.
by Pedro Jesus 12/19/2011 11:10:10 PM

Absolutely no progress being made' at Fukushima nuke plant, undercover reporter says mdn.mainichi.jp
by Olivier 12/19/2011 11:15:20 PM

@lillymunster, that journal is archived with PubMed www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov[Title%20Abbreviation] but then so are some homeopathy journals, lol!. Amazing to hear, as you note, that the same journal publishes all his work, surprise surprise! Sounds like the in-house journal of last resort for anti-nuke authors that Dose Response is to pro-nukes authors.
by Ian 12/19/2011 11:23:58 PM

@lillymunster, it's also despicable how they're selling the paper with the most alarming title possible and the study isn't available right during the period that media would be going to press with their press release, so everyone is running blind and screaming out loud, the opposite of the scientific process! Dubious informational ethics, unless they've got something really solid, but I can already see the truck-wide holes in it.
by Ian 12/19/2011 11:28:17 PM

And look at this from the press release (bold added): "Based on our continuing research, the actual death count here may be as high as 18,000, with influenza and pneumonia, which were up five-fold in the period in question as a cause of death." I've spent a good part of the last year tracking down radiation-health research and I'd be willing to bet there's no good evidence beyond what I've seen to assume cases of the flu are caused radiation, and I've never seen anything correlating the two. In theory, sure maybe, but in data, I think they're just ready to attribute anything to any increment of radiation and then plaster terrifying headlines all over and the pro-nukers will have a field day tearing them to rightful shreds.
by Ian 12/19/2011 11:35:36 PM

@Peter, right, since epidemiological studies only show correlation, they're only reliable with the largest data-sets possible. Which makes the incredibly narrow pre-Fuku control reference of just 3.5 months scandalous on its face. Most data trend up and down over short intervals, so to infer cause from correlation over such a small range is laughable on it face. Maybe I'll be eating crow tomorrow after I read the study, but it's their own press release that bases their claim on a comparison to just 3.5 months pre-Fukushima.
by Ian edited by lillymunster 12/19/2011 11:48:51 PM

To document a possible radiation/cancer connection, RPHP needs only one of the baby teeth that your child has lost...So please help. Every tooth is a clue! ~http://www.radiation.org/projects/tooth_fairy.html
by Majj 12/19/2011 11:51:03 PM