Japan Earthquake | Page 2812

  • At the bottom of the JT link Mary posted:


    We welcome your opinions. Click to send a message to the editor.

    Oh they are getting mine......
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 4:17:36 PM

  • 3.11 Fukushima Japan. A News Source. paper.li
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 4:21:50 PM

  • @lillymunster You Go girl!!!
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 4:22:16 PM

  • @MaryW merry christmas, i think these are different persons.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 4:37:57 PM

  • @Edano You may be right on the different persons. At the end of the Japan Times article I posted, it says 'Peace from Austria (although I'm currently in Tokyo).'
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 4:46:20 PM

  • i mean, how can he say "German children don't become interested in politics at a young age; they are indoctrinated by their teachers to follow the politically correct herd." and afterwards : "I doubt that any of these protesters even remotely understands how a nuclear plant works and what radiation is.". this is a contradiction. politically uninterested and politically correct indoctrinated children will not become protesters against their government and the energy mafia. this guy is an idiot.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 4:54:48 PM

  • @Edano it reads like a poorly thought out attack from someone with an agenda and has not really thought about his stance but created it as a response to whatever new comes out.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 4:57:45 PM

  • "in Germany, children are indoctrinated to hate nuclear energy." i can't believe that. "indoctrinated to hate". he must be sick.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 4:58:13 PM

  • in fact, both parts of germany had nuclear energy.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 4:59:54 PM

  • I am really surprised nobody at JT noticed how inflammatory it was..
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:00:53 PM

  • @lillymunster some people are damn angry with germany and that only because we abandon nuke power. so what ? this is our business. i see no reason to get angry about this, except you are a nuke lobbyist.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:06:07 PM

  • @Edano I think it is doubly offensive that he is making these unfounded accusations on all of Germany and doing so in a Japanese paper like this is going to get the country to ignore a massive disaster that is going to take another generation to get some sort of full recovery out of it. Oh we didn't have nuclear disaster that crippled an entire region and risked the health of the rest of the country etc. - it was all just propaganda, we imagined it.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:11:38 PM

  • @lillymunster true. i can imagine a japanese nuke company hired a german extra for this opinion to make it appear serious, but it is really defaming. i can hardly believe that an austrian can be responsible for that, i honestly doubt that. there are cultural flaws in that writing.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:18:23 PM

  • it comes from vienna, where the iaea is at home. very suspicious.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:20:07 PM

  • I keep going back to your comment that Germany's energy changes do not impact other countries. They don't. The only "risk" they have is giving people the idea that they don't absolutely have to have nukes to survive and that is a very "dangerous" idea if your agenda is to keep people baffled with your BS.

    It reminds me of the current power issues where I live. The major power company in the region insisted we needed this new coal plant. They also refused to agree to state law changes that would allow major wind generation in our state. This all continued until the coal plant was defeated with no hope of every happening. Bam a few months later we are hooked up to the big wind farm in MN and they are building high capacity transmission lines in SD. Our punishment, a $6 a month additional charge to pay for the new transmission systems. I can live with that. But it is an example of the outright lies power companies will pull on the public not because they are true but to manipulate people to get their way. This JT opinion piece reeks of power industry BS, they have a very limited bag of tricks.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:25:21 PM

  • strange, "andreas kolb wien" does not show anything in google. no journalist, no scientist. who is he ?
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:26:27 PM

  • Save the Children. Relocation Links to Help Japanese Families to Live Without Radiation. I am involved with assisting several national organizations in providing radiation-free alternative living options. Here are relocation links -- Fellowship for International Community, organic culture/community living: directory.ic.org -- "Hahako" English translation: hahako-net.jimdo.com Japanese: hahako-net.jimdo.com --Maternal Evacuation Networks. 'hahako' helps Fukushima's Mothers and Children, and Pregnant Women relocate: English translation: translate.google.com Japanese: hinanshien.blog.shinobi.jp
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 5:27:48 PM

  • meanwhile i'm quite sure this JT "opinion" is manipulated. as i said, cultural flaws. it sounds like someone very far from germany wrote it. it sounds like a japanese wrote it.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:29:38 PM

  • yes, i read it again and again. it is a manipulated opinion. the author is japanese.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:33:25 PM

  • There seems to be no background on the guy or why he is writing opinion pieces for JT. I wonder if he wrote any before the disaster.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:37:18 PM

  • @lillymunster the name is invented, pure fantasy.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:37:49 PM

  • EPA: Traces of radiation in Alaska, 6 other states
    by The Associated Press
    Mar 29, 2011 | 2685 views | 9 | 2 | |
    MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Trace amounts of radiation from the damaged Japanese nuclear plant have shown up in seven U.S. states including Alabama and Alaska, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.


    Read more: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - EPA Traces of radiation in Alaska 6 other states. newsminer.com
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 5:38:17 PM

  • @MaryW good find on the relocation groups. I want to try to start cataloging resources and NPO's helping people in Japan.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:39:42 PM

  • Another version of the AP story on radiation. www.boston.com - it is also from back in March....
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:41:38 PM

  • @lillymunster Please consider posting on SimplyInfo. It is important information that should be easily available. I contacted Iori Mochizuki last night to request this relocation information links be posted on his Fukushima-Diary blog. So far, he has posted the International Directory site for us a few weeks back. Thanks!
    by MaryW 12/25/2011 5:47:29 PM

  • @MaryW @MaryW I will let you know when I get a page started so you can double check to make sure I didn't miss any. I need to contact some of our people in Japan and ask them if they know of contacts for other groups helping people like the radiation testing labs that are running on donations or any of the in-Japan groups helping people move out of the north-east
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:53:07 PM

  • this is my answer to JT:

    "Japan Times should take care about its sources. as a German, i can say that this "opinion" is surely not written by an Austrian. We share the same culture and we don't use terms like "yellow peril" here in the German speaking part of Europe. Nobody here would claim that Angela Merkel "broke a law", this is nonsense. nobody would say "German children are indoctrinated to hate...". nobody with knowledge about Germany would write that. I am sure this writing is manipulated and stems from a japanese power company. You should be careful that you are not misused in this way. Don't forget the Kyushu affaires. Furthermore, this piece of writing is offensive and defaming. it contradicts itself several times and is absolutely badly written."
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:53:47 PM

  • @Edano did you send it?
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:54:41 PM

  • yep.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 5:54:49 PM

  • @Edano going to send one in later today. Will post it when I get it done. :-)
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 5:55:40 PM

  • I seem to recall that one of the few EPA measures of plutonium was in Alaska, but don't quote me on that, just fuzzy memory. I also remember it wasn't easy to confirm that data.
    by Ian 12/25/2011 6:02:25 PM

  • @Ian someone pulled the raw EPA data that found plutonium on the west coast. I might have the data file somewhere.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 6:03:00 PM

  • Here's a blog entry on this: blog.alexanderhiggins.com
    by Ian 12/25/2011 6:04:16 PM

  • I checked back through all JT opinion articles. Kolb has only written those two cited. The one claiming lowering the plant didn't matter and the one today.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 6:31:17 PM

  • The JT article also completely avoids the impact Chernobyl had on Germany and other parts of Europe.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 6:32:21 PM

  • @Edano When I google Andreas Kolb I get plenty of entries. Wien is a city in Austria, probably not his name. There are a few Andreas Kolb, at least one of them living in Wien, Austria, so the name is definitely not fake.
    by Pedro Jesus 12/25/2011 6:54:02 PM

  • This is the letter I sent to Japan Times in response to Kolb's article:


    The recent opinion piece from Andreas Kolb is quite disturbing in its gross misrepresentations, xenophobia and blatant racism, but also that Japan Times thought this was appropriate to print.
    Even if the editorial staff doesn’t agree with Kolb’s statements there is some responsibility to not give a public platform to baseless accusations and defamatory comments.

    Kolb’s accusation that “In Germany, children are indoctrinated to hate “ and claiming that "yellow peril" is somehow a reaction in Germany are completely inappropriate for any honest discussion of the issues. I can assure you that “yellow peril” is not from the common vernacular of Germany and it certainly isn’t of the current common vernacular in American English.

    Kolb completely ignores the impact Chernobyl has on Germany. There are still foods and livestock in Europe that are not safe to eat some 25 years later. The Chernobyl disaster spawned citizens groups like Strahlentelex and CRMS to test food so people could find what was safe to eat. The more recent nuclear protests in Germany were against the transport of nuclear fuel across the countryside of Germany and France. Geiger counters were bought to check around the Castor nuclear fuel transport trains, not out of some lack of understanding of nuclear power. Germany comes from a very experienced place, not out of ignorance in their decision to move away from nuclear power.

    Kolb also makes the very strange insinuation that Germany’s actions in changing their energy policy somehow impacts the rest of the world. The only factor outside of Germany that is impacted by these changes is the illusion that people must have nuclear power to survive as a modern society. Having other people see that renewable are a viable option is a very powerful and dangerous thing if you’re a nuclear energy company whose profits and future depend on keeping that illusion in place.

    We know nothing about Kolb’s background or possible industry ties yet he has had two rather bizarre opinion pieces printed by the paper. The other one making a spurious claim that lowering the elevation of Fukushima Daiichi had nothing to do with the impact of the tsunami on the plant.

    I would hope that Japan Times would post some sort of apology for printing Kolb’s offensive screed and possibly ask opinion writers to disclose any conflicts of interest they may have on the subjects they write about.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 7:01:03 PM

  • @lillymunster amazing ! :)
    by Edano 12/25/2011 7:18:27 PM

  • @lillymunster as to "yellow peril", i would have thought that this points to the economical and political power of china, but never to japan, at least not here in europe. i can imagine that it may in fact stem from ww2, but then it's sureley not used in this way in europe. in that time we had brown or red problems here, but most definitely no yellow ones. that's why i think it cannot be written by a european.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 7:29:48 PM

  • @lillymunster, nice letter! Maybe it's good for a blog post too?
    by Ian 12/25/2011 7:32:38 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus yes, Wien is the german name for Vienna and be sure i know that. and yes, there are lots of andreas kolbs in wien, in germany as well, but none of them is in the journalistic or nuclear or east asian business or has made any comments that i could find on anything before outside of japan, so i would think it is rather strange to read a comment by him in a japanese newspaper. why in a japanese newspaper ? we have german forums on that. Pedro Jesus, i did not say that there exists no andreas kolb in vienna, i said that the writer of that comment is probably not the person he claims to be. he definitely seems to know more about japanese than german culture, and this is strange.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 7:46:11 PM

  • we have learned how kyushu electric (and others) used to manipulate public opinion before. that's why i am quite sure that this writing is a fake.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 7:48:53 PM

  • @Edano It doesn't fit into American vernacular either. It was something heard during WWII. You can find it in old movies, news reels etc. but you never hear people talking about Japan as some sort of threat or in a negative manner like that. It is very out of context.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 7:52:15 PM

  • @Edano We don't even hear China spoken of in those terms. It is really racist sounding. We do hear frequently how China owns us via financing most of our debt and how the trade imbalances are a problem but much of the blame is put on the US big corps that got us into it.
    by lillymunster 12/25/2011 7:53:54 PM

  • in fact, it's a very subtile way to influence the japanese opinion, by using a german/austrian name, and referring to the (probably very popular) Japanese actor Taro Yamamoto who apparently visited germany during the castor transport. i can assure that this actor is not well known in germany, and i followed the castor events closely, i knew that there were japanese participants, but there was no news article that mentioned Taro Yamamoto.
    by Edano 12/25/2011 7:54:04 PM

Japan Earthquake | Page 2812

Who's Blogging
  • hudebnikhudebnik
  • albleealblee
  • UKValUKVal
  • Oliver (ScribbleLive)Oliver (ScribbleLive)
  • Jonathan KeeblerJonathan Keebler
  • kaykodhkaykodh
  • PKelleyPKelley
  • MarkfmMarkfm
  • AngieAngie
  • DebDeb
  • Mid ValleyMid Valley
  • Pedro Jesus
  • Matt (ScribbleLive)Matt (ScribbleLive)
  • George GibbGeorge Gibb
  • elainekirkelainekirk
  • lillymunsterlillymunster
  • deandean
  • bobo
  • EdanoEdano
  • IanGoddardIanGoddard