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I don't remember seeing any at Fukusima
by standbybarry 1/25/2012 1:32:53 AM

@standbybarry Fuku doesn't have cooling towers since it is on the ocean.
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 1:33:09 AM

@ lilly.. fuku plants are also BWR's which operate differently from a heat removal need , as opposed to a PWR
by dean 1/25/2012 1:37:43 AM

@dean does it still depend on the water accessibility?
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 1:41:57 AM

COOLING towers are typically 1 of two designs.. one is counter flow and the other is natural draft or the hyperbolic shape. primarily the design is determined by the heat removal needed or delta temperature and the location of the reator (dry areas verses humid)
by dean 1/25/2012 1:42:30 AM

Bye, I have to go off to work
by standbybarry 1/25/2012 1:42:45 AM

@lilly... yes, for all of the current reactors it requires millions of gallons ,,, the gen IV REACTOR ideas say they will only need about 100,000 gallons per day
by dean 1/25/2012 1:43:32 AM

@dean I am surprised Ft. Calhoun wasn't made to add cooling towers. Despite last years floods there are years the Missouri gets low due to drought and fights over water rights and the dams.
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 1:43:53 AM

if it's possible utility companies would rather use natural draft cooling towers because they are less expensive to operate, don't need pumps and fans
by dean 1/25/2012 1:47:17 AM

lilly, also it needn't be one huge tower, but could be a long array of smallish ones which is not that visible.
by Peter 1/25/2012 1:52:17 AM

nuclear power plants that use the counter flow type of cooling towers will have a large circle of about 12 large towers with short stacks which are above large fans that can pull or push air through a water film pack where the heat transfer takes place... all the water vapor (usually in thousands of gallons per minute) needs to be replenished with fresh water
by dean 1/25/2012 1:55:37 AM

@Peter.. very good seeing you
by dean 1/25/2012 1:55:47 AM

off to watch the state of the union
by dean 1/25/2012 1:59:04 AM

Dean, same here, lilly look a here, via cryptome.org . Flood water surrounds one of the three cooling towers at the Prairie Island Nuclear Power Plant near Red Wing, Minn., Monday, April 14, 1997, as the rising waters of the Mississippi River near their crest. Water surrounds all three of the cooling towers. (AP Photo/Jim Mone).
by Peter via Cryptome.org 1/25/2012 2:02:58 AM

with Kashiwazaki taking a unit out today that leaves 4 reactors operating in Japan. Shimane goes offline the 27th, then there will be 3 left operating...
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 2:04:21 AM

@lillymunster I can only smile to that.
by Pedro Jesus 1/25/2012 2:05:06 AM

I looked for info on Diablo Canyon nuke power plant (1,100 MWe * 2). It uses around 2.5 billion gallons of seawater a day in a once-through cooling system. Some environmental groups are trying to get PG&E to change the cooling system to reduce the amount of seawater used for cooling.
by RonD 1/25/2012 2:05:11 AM

@Peter I have seen those type elsewhere before. I think that is what Oyster Creek was going to put in before they decided to end operations early.
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 2:05:21 AM

@lillymunster , one more example: cryptome.org . This is an undated aerial view of the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant in Vernon, Vt. Plant officials are optimistic that the plant will be sold to the AmerGen Energy Company, a joint venture of the Philadelphia Electric Company and the British Energy Company, both of which are nuclear plant specialists. (AP Photo/Vermont Yankee Corporation,File). Perhaps, they can use those there instead of the tall ones because of the sizable river
by Peter via Cryptome.org 1/25/2012 2:10:10 AM

...and here we can see what water flow is needed, when there is no cooling tower: cryptome.org . The Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant is shown April 12, 2001, near San Luis Obispo, Calif. The Sierra Club has sued the Bush administration, alleging the federal government has failed to address security risks at the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant on the Central California coast. (AP Photo/Phil Klein, File).
by Peter via Cryptome.org 1/25/2012 2:18:41 AM

...and here how huge some are: cryptome.org . The Grand Gulf Nuclear Station near Port Gibson, Miss., owned by Entergy Nuclear, is shown in 1982. The non-regulated subsidiary of New Orleans-based Entergy Corp., is proceeding with an ambitious plan to buy even more reactors, most of them in the northeastern United States. (AP Photo/File).
by Peter via Cryptome.org 1/25/2012 2:20:44 AM

Electric power industry extended donations to major political parties mdn.mainichi.jp
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 3:08:33 AM

@Peter, Grand Gulf doing it's best to add to the misery in the Gulf one leak at a time....http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/2011/05/04/radioactive-water-released-into-river-at-grand-gulf/
by eyes 1/25/2012 3:09:16 AM

93% of Japan's nuclear reactors offline www3.nhk.or.jp
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 3:13:31 AM

Did we catch the 4.7 earlier today rather shallow quake earthquake.usgs.gov
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 3:23:14 AM

opinionexchange.lohudblogs.com web site to vote to shutdown or leave Indian point running..
by dean 1/25/2012 3:54:28 AM

Fallout from Fukushima No. 1 on rise: www.japantimes.co.jp
by bo 1/25/2012 4:28:09 AM

Japan needs all the help it can get with clean-up: www.ft.com
by bo 1/25/2012 4:30:10 AM

Not sure about this source: Fukushima Radiation Spreads Worldwide - www.salem-news.com
by bo 1/25/2012 4:32:42 AM

Mangano and Sherman producing local headlines again. "Report: Fallout from Fukushima coincides with spike in Boise infant mortality rate" : www.kivitv.com
by bo 1/25/2012 4:34:03 AM

A Day of A Fukushima Daiichi Worker : eereporter.blogspot.com
by bo 1/25/2012 5:41:03 AM

CNN does an exclusion zone ghost town story: www.cnn.com
by bo 1/25/2012 8:26:40 AM

#Fukushima Farmers Angry at New Safety Standard for Radioacte Materials in Food As "Too Strict" : ex-skf.blogspot.com
by bo 1/25/2012 8:54:12 AM

Village in Fukushima no-go zone to call for residents to return permanently by March: mdn.mainichi.jp
by bo 1/25/2012 11:16:55 AM

"Let's All Feel Safe and Secure in Fukushima" - Forums Being Held

ex-skf.blogspot.com
by VesaVA 1/25/2012 11:18:00 AM

www.solarham.com
about the radiation spike earlier this week: Updated 1/25/2012 @ 00:30 UTC
Strongest Radiation Storm since 2003
The solar Proton Flux is finally starting to decrease. After the CME impacted Earth on Tuesday morning, it reached an even higher reading (6300 pfu) and is now the largest radiation storm since October 2003. This event was responsible for the re-routing of commerical flights through the polar regions due to radiation risks.
Proton Flux (Tuesday) - Courtesy of SWPC
by trh 1/25/2012 11:25:13 AM

Thank God!!

Plans for Sellafield plutonium reactor rejected
Nuclear Decommissioning Authority sees technology as immature and commercially unproven, internal emails reveal: www.guardian.co.uk
by bo 1/25/2012 11:25:55 AM

However, after the tweet from the Guardian about that, the Labour MP for Copeland and Shadow Health Minister tweeted that it was not accurate, and that it was still being considered. Hmmmmmmm..........
by bo 1/25/2012 11:28:37 AM

"Fukushima task force kept no records of meetings"(Yoko Kubota) www.independent.co.uk
by Pedro Jesus 1/25/2012 12:14:05 PM

greetings to all
by dean 1/25/2012 12:18:38 PM

@bo, check your email please
by dean 1/25/2012 12:18:50 PM

voices.idahostatesman.com Resolution 330, authored by Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, was approved by unanimous consent Thursday. The measure was co-sponsored by Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho, and Democrats from Colorado and New Mexico.

Crapo's measure makes Jan. 27, 2012, a national day of remembrance for Americans harmed by above-ground nuclear weapons testing during the Cold War. The date falls on the 51st anniversary of the first Nevada bomb test. In Congress, resolutions express the sense of the Senate or House and are not considered by the other body.

"We encourage by this local, state and federal activities in support of the issue that we're raising," said Lindsay Nothern, Crapo's spokesman. Crapo also is pressing for a hearing on a bill to expand the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act to Idaho and other states not currently covered.

In April, the same six senators that sponsored the non-binding resolution introduced S. 791 to expand the compensation plan.

J Truman, director of the Idaho-based activist group Downwinders, hailed the resolution.

"This is great news," Truman said. "January 27 of course was the day nuclear testing started in Nevada in 1951, and followed by over 100 above ground test that sent fallout downwind. Downwinders across the West will be doing vigils and other activities on that day."

Read more here: voices.idahostatesman.com
by dean 1/25/2012 12:31:04 PM

Morning-afternoon-evening have news to go through in a bit
by lillymunster 1/25/2012 12:32:28 PM

@dean that's great. I've heard about Crapo (what an unfortunate name) advocating on behalf of those who've suffered from atmospheric testing.
by bo 1/25/2012 12:36:48 PM